The Flat Earth Society

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  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    surferdude wrote:
    First, he was not forced to do anything. he was given choice. The choice he was given was not backed by biblical verse. Where is a flat earth backed by biblical verse?

    As I understand it, the choice was recant, or be tortured. Have I mentioned coercion before ??
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  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    sweet adeline wrote:
    Yeah, nothing feels better than a spray of clean water
    And the whistling wind on a calm summer night,
    But youd better believe that down in their quarters
    The men are holding in for their dear lives,
    The flat earth society is somewhere far away,
    With their candlesticks and compasses
    And the bright ship humana is well on its way
    With grave determination.....
    And no destination, lie, lie, lie, ad infinitum
    During my time as a Katrina evac I listened to this song constantly. Struck me on some level, I guess.

    Actually, the entire Against the Grain album rarely left my disc player. I mean, if you take the album's lyrics literally, some of it is just way too obvious:
    ...the flow is getting stronger with small increments of time
    and eddies of new ideas are increasingly hard to find
    you need all that the other has, it's your right to seize the day
    but with all your acquisitions you will soon be swept away...

    ...swimming upstream, I maintain against the grain...

    And Operation Rescue? Come on.


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  • MakingWaves
    MakingWaves Posts: 1,294
    surferdude wrote:
    First, he was not forced to do anything. he was given choice. The choice he was given was not backed by biblical verse. Where is a flat earth backed by biblical verse?

    Yeah, a choice to recant or go to prison.
    Seeing visions of falling up somehow.

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  • Bwalker545
    Bwalker545 Posts: 162
    Gallileo actually was "convivted" by the church and imprisioned, he later was placed under house arrest, where he continued his work, in secret. The Bible doesnt really say the earth is flat, "unless you wanna be a stickler about a couple verses...but it does say that the earth cannot move, that was the source of the controversy...
    Psalm 104:5 "[the LORD] set the earth on it's foundations; it can never be moved." Ecclesiastes 1:5 "the sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises."
    It wasnt so much his earth is round theory, as much as it was heliocentrism that got him in trouble...

    The Flat Earth Society is not in any way responsible for the failure of the French to repel the Germans at the Maginot Line during WWII
    OMG lol... fucken awsome, but really what were the french thinking i mean come on! "No way they will come through the Ardennes...AGAIN..."
    "Almost unconsciously he traced with his finger in the dust on the table: 2+2=5" 1984
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    sweet adeline wrote:
    Lie, lie, lie.......
    The full moon is rising over dark water
    And the fools below are picking up sticks
    And the man in the gallows lies permanently
    Waiting for the doctors to come back and tend to him,

    The flat earth society is meeting here today,
    Singing happy little lies
    And the bright ship humana is sent far away
    With grave determination....
    And no destination, lie, lie, lie

    Yeah, nothing feels better than a spray of clean water
    And the whistling wind on a calm summer night,
    But youd better believe that down in their quarters
    The men are holding in for their dear lives,
    The flat earth society is somewhere far away,
    With their candlesticks and compasses
    And the bright ship humana is well on its way
    With grave determination.....
    And no destination, lie, lie, lie, ad infinitum


    nice, I was just about to post these...
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    surferdude wrote:
    Please tie this assertation to biblical verse.

    The "assertation" is blindingly obvious due the fact that round earth philosophers (thousands of years after it's publishing) were punished for even whispering aloud the notion of a round earth. ...that and the earth not being the very center of the biblical universe....The bible is a very old book of stories and examples of how to act in society. Due to the time of it's writing (obviously) it had a very dim knowledge of what reality was/is here on planet earth. That would be like saying man was more evolved a few thousand years ago....how silly...
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  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    The flat earth thing was a dogma or widespread opinion that the vatican set to uphold, as they did with any knowledge on any subject. And since the divine vatican by default never was wrong, any dissent was the work of the devil and so on. That's about control, dogma and coercion by the catholic church in the middle ages.

    Has little to with the bible in itself. But the bible certainly can be used or abused for almost anything, which makes me very wary of literal interpretation fundamentalists.

    And those quotes, ahnimus, doesnt require a flat earth. The devil, if he has supernatural powers, can surely show jesus anything from anywhere if he so wished. And even a centre of the earth view is not necessarily a flat earth view.

    Also, have in mind that the bible didn't originate the flat earth most likely. It was a common view and expressions like "the four corners of the world" stem from that, even if we dont literally mean corners of the world when we say it now. Popular theory that were integrated in the bible at it's writing at it's time.

    And I am not even close to christian or even religious. I just dont see the need to bash it on faulty premises. (although I might happily bash it on other, more sound premises ;))

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  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    Commy wrote:
    nice, I was just about to post these...

    i feel like i need to listen to "all ages" now.
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    RainDog wrote:
    During my time as a Katrina evac I listened to this song constantly. Struck me on some level, I guess.

    Actually, the entire Against the Grain album rarely left my disc player. I mean, if you take the album's lyrics literally, some of it is just way too obvious:
    ...the flow is getting stronger with small increments of time
    and eddies of new ideas are increasingly hard to find
    you need all that the other has, it's your right to seize the day
    but with all your acquisitions you will soon be swept away...

    ...swimming upstream, I maintain against the grain...

    And Operation Rescue? Come on.


    for more Greg Graffin Love, check my sig (slightly modified).

    thats a cool story, the inspiration part of course. i'm a big fan of "no substance" myself.

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