The Flat Earth Society

AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

Check it out, the earth is flat!

By the way, the flat-earth theory was a biblical theory, not a scientific theory as many proclaim. It was the early greek scientists that challenged the biblical view.
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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    some people have no sense of humor
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    godpt3 wrote:
    some people have no sense of humor

    Haha, the whole website is a joke, mocking the ridiculousness of ID theory.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Ahnimus wrote:
    By the way, the flat-earth theory was a biblical theory
    Please tie this assertation to biblical verse.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    surferdude wrote:
    Please tie this assertation to biblical verse.

    http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    the tiny, tiny writing at the bottom says:

    The Flat Earth Society is not in any way responsible for the failure of the French to repel the Germans at the Maginot Line during WWII. Nor is the Flat Earth Society responsible for the recent yeti sightings outside the Vatican, or for the unfortunate enslavement of the Nabisco Inc. factory employees by a rogue hamster insurrectionist group. Furthermore, we are not responsible for the loss of one or more of the following, which may possibly occur as the result of exposing one's self to the dogmatic and dangerously subversive statements made within: life, limb, vision, Francois Mitterand, hearing, taste, smell, touch, thumb, Aunt Mildred, citizenship, spleen, bedrock, cloves, I Love Lucy reruns, toaster, pine derby racer, toy duck, antelope, horseradish, prosthetic ankle, double-cheeseburger, tin foil, limestone, watermelon-scented air freshner, sanity, paprika, German to Pig Latin dictionary, dish towel, pet Chihuahua, pogo stick, Golf Digest subscription, floor tile, upper torso or halibut.

    :D:D
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ahnimus wrote:

    Disregarding the dome, the essential flatness of the earth's surface is required by verses like Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.” If the earth were flat, a sufficiently tall tree would be visible to “the earth's farthest bounds,” but this is impossible on a spherical earth. Likewise, in describing the temptation of Jesus by Satan, Matthew 4:8 says, “Once again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world [cosmos] in their glory.” Obviously, this would be possible only if the earth were flat. The same is true of Revelation 1:7: “Behold, he is coming with the clouds! Every eye shall see him...”
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    i can't believe these IDIOTS were based where i live now in CA!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Lizard wrote:
    i can't believe these IDIOTS were based where i live now in CA!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society
    That's not the same Flat Earth Society. I'm pretty sure the one Ahnimus posted is a joke. The real Flat Earth Society does have a forum page, though, linked at the bottom of the Wikipedia article.

    http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Disregarding the dome, the essential flatness of the earth's surface is required by verses like Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.” If the earth were flat, a sufficiently tall tree would be visible to “the earth's farthest bounds,” but this is impossible on a spherical earth. Likewise, in describing the temptation of Jesus by Satan, Matthew 4:8 says, “Once again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world [cosmos] in their glory.” Obviously, this would be possible only if the earth were flat. The same is true of Revelation 1:7: “Behold, he is coming with the clouds! Every eye shall see him...”
    You know, usually you're a smart guy. But your interpretations of verse are definitely way out there.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    RainDog wrote:
    That's not the same Flat Earth Society. I'm pretty sure the one Ahnimus posted is a joke. The real Flat Earth Society does have a forum page, though, linked at the bottom of the Wikipedia article.

    http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/

    yeah, i knew his was a joke.....well, actually aren't they both?

    :)
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    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Lizard wrote:
    i can't believe these IDIOTS were based where i live now in CA!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society

    Idiots? You realize they don't actually believe the earth is flat, right?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    surferdude wrote:
    You know, usually you're a smart guy. But your interpretations of verse are definitely way out there.

    Hey man, it's history, it's not my interpretation.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Idiots? You realize they don't actually believe the earth is flat, right?

    yes.
    i am not typing correctly today.

    that is my defense.

    :p
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Lizard wrote:
    yes.
    i am not typing correctly today.

    that is my defense.

    :p

    Hehe, works for me ;)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    Lie, lie, lie.......
    The full moon is rising over dark water
    And the fools below are picking up sticks
    And the man in the gallows lies permanently
    Waiting for the doctors to come back and tend to him,

    The flat earth society is meeting here today,
    Singing happy little lies
    And the bright ship humana is sent far away
    With grave determination....
    And no destination, lie, lie, lie

    Yeah, nothing feels better than a spray of clean water
    And the whistling wind on a calm summer night,
    But youd better believe that down in their quarters
    The men are holding in for their dear lives,
    The flat earth society is somewhere far away,
    With their candlesticks and compasses
    And the bright ship humana is well on its way
    With grave determination.....
    And no destination, lie, lie, lie, ad infinitum
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    surferdude wrote:
    Please tie this assertation to biblical verse.

    I really should stay away from religious discussions, BUT

    Gallileo (incidently has the same birthday as me) was forced to recant by the Inquisition for saying the Earth was round, not flat.
    Music is not a competetion.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Since there is nothing on the true internet encyclopedia, Conservapedia, I'll be forced to reference Wiki even though it's crazy liberal bias is tough to get past..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_earth_society
    The Flat Earth Society is an organization first based in England and later in Lancaster, California that advocates the belief that the Earth is not a sphere but is flat (see also Flat Earth). No modern scientists or religious groups have published support for this belief.
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    I really should stay away from religious discussions, BUT

    Gallileo (incidently has the same birthday as me) was forced to recant by the Inquisition for saying the Earth was round, not flat.
    First, he was not forced to do anything. he was given choice. The choice he was given was not backed by biblical verse. Where is a flat earth backed by biblical verse?
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    surferdude wrote:
    First, he was not forced to do anything. he was given choice. The choice he was given was not backed by biblical verse. Where is a flat earth backed by biblical verse?

    I already showed you. The biblical verses quoted can not be possible without the earth being flat.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    My daughter and I use the term "flat earther" referring to people who adhere to the going schools of thought to the degree of limiting themselves from hearing and understanding ideas from outside the box.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    surferdude wrote:
    First, he was not forced to do anything. he was given choice. The choice he was given was not backed by biblical verse. Where is a flat earth backed by biblical verse?

    As I understand it, the choice was recant, or be tortured. Have I mentioned coercion before ??
    Music is not a competetion.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Yeah, nothing feels better than a spray of clean water
    And the whistling wind on a calm summer night,
    But youd better believe that down in their quarters
    The men are holding in for their dear lives,
    The flat earth society is somewhere far away,
    With their candlesticks and compasses
    And the bright ship humana is well on its way
    With grave determination.....
    And no destination, lie, lie, lie, ad infinitum
    During my time as a Katrina evac I listened to this song constantly. Struck me on some level, I guess.

    Actually, the entire Against the Grain album rarely left my disc player. I mean, if you take the album's lyrics literally, some of it is just way too obvious:
    ...the flow is getting stronger with small increments of time
    and eddies of new ideas are increasingly hard to find
    you need all that the other has, it's your right to seize the day
    but with all your acquisitions you will soon be swept away...

    ...swimming upstream, I maintain against the grain...


    And Operation Rescue? Come on.


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  • MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,293
    surferdude wrote:
    First, he was not forced to do anything. he was given choice. The choice he was given was not backed by biblical verse. Where is a flat earth backed by biblical verse?

    Yeah, a choice to recant or go to prison.
    Seeing visions of falling up somehow.

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  • Bwalker545Bwalker545 Posts: 162
    Gallileo actually was "convivted" by the church and imprisioned, he later was placed under house arrest, where he continued his work, in secret. The Bible doesnt really say the earth is flat, "unless you wanna be a stickler about a couple verses...but it does say that the earth cannot move, that was the source of the controversy...
    Psalm 104:5 "[the LORD] set the earth on it's foundations; it can never be moved." Ecclesiastes 1:5 "the sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises."
    It wasnt so much his earth is round theory, as much as it was heliocentrism that got him in trouble...

    The Flat Earth Society is not in any way responsible for the failure of the French to repel the Germans at the Maginot Line during WWII
    OMG lol... fucken awsome, but really what were the french thinking i mean come on! "No way they will come through the Ardennes...AGAIN..."
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Lie, lie, lie.......
    The full moon is rising over dark water
    And the fools below are picking up sticks
    And the man in the gallows lies permanently
    Waiting for the doctors to come back and tend to him,

    The flat earth society is meeting here today,
    Singing happy little lies
    And the bright ship humana is sent far away
    With grave determination....
    And no destination, lie, lie, lie

    Yeah, nothing feels better than a spray of clean water
    And the whistling wind on a calm summer night,
    But youd better believe that down in their quarters
    The men are holding in for their dear lives,
    The flat earth society is somewhere far away,
    With their candlesticks and compasses
    And the bright ship humana is well on its way
    With grave determination.....
    And no destination, lie, lie, lie, ad infinitum


    nice, I was just about to post these...
  • surferdude wrote:
    Please tie this assertation to biblical verse.

    The "assertation" is blindingly obvious due the fact that round earth philosophers (thousands of years after it's publishing) were punished for even whispering aloud the notion of a round earth. ...that and the earth not being the very center of the biblical universe....The bible is a very old book of stories and examples of how to act in society. Due to the time of it's writing (obviously) it had a very dim knowledge of what reality was/is here on planet earth. That would be like saying man was more evolved a few thousand years ago....how silly...
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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    The flat earth thing was a dogma or widespread opinion that the vatican set to uphold, as they did with any knowledge on any subject. And since the divine vatican by default never was wrong, any dissent was the work of the devil and so on. That's about control, dogma and coercion by the catholic church in the middle ages.

    Has little to with the bible in itself. But the bible certainly can be used or abused for almost anything, which makes me very wary of literal interpretation fundamentalists.

    And those quotes, ahnimus, doesnt require a flat earth. The devil, if he has supernatural powers, can surely show jesus anything from anywhere if he so wished. And even a centre of the earth view is not necessarily a flat earth view.

    Also, have in mind that the bible didn't originate the flat earth most likely. It was a common view and expressions like "the four corners of the world" stem from that, even if we dont literally mean corners of the world when we say it now. Popular theory that were integrated in the bible at it's writing at it's time.

    And I am not even close to christian or even religious. I just dont see the need to bash it on faulty premises. (although I might happily bash it on other, more sound premises ;))

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  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    Commy wrote:
    nice, I was just about to post these...

    i feel like i need to listen to "all ages" now.
  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    RainDog wrote:
    During my time as a Katrina evac I listened to this song constantly. Struck me on some level, I guess.

    Actually, the entire Against the Grain album rarely left my disc player. I mean, if you take the album's lyrics literally, some of it is just way too obvious:
    ...the flow is getting stronger with small increments of time
    and eddies of new ideas are increasingly hard to find
    you need all that the other has, it's your right to seize the day
    but with all your acquisitions you will soon be swept away...

    ...swimming upstream, I maintain against the grain...


    And Operation Rescue? Come on.


    for more Greg Graffin Love, check my sig (slightly modified).

    thats a cool story, the inspiration part of course. i'm a big fan of "no substance" myself.
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