How fucking sick are people

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    When has there bene reports of US soldiers playing soccer with heads of Iraq citizens. I cannot and will not believe this. As a former soldier I know this would not happen. No Way dude

    Trust me it happened but it was over a year ago I posted it but I'm going to find it, I could never ever make this shit up not when it comes to war. By the way I was in the military also.

    Peace
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  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    The story is so, so sad. The poor little boy AND his mother.
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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    g under p wrote:
    Trust me it happened but it was over a year ago I posted it but I'm going to find it, I could never ever make this shit up not when it comes to war. By the way I was in the military also.

    Peace

    Are you talking about the guy who deserted to Canada int the 124th
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    g under p wrote:
    Trust me it happened but it was over a year ago I posted it but I'm going to find it, I could never ever make this shit up not when it comes to war. By the way I was in the military also.

    Peace

    I remember reading about this as well.

    here's a vid
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWGV8-uyAUk

    Personally I think raping young girls then murdering the entire family is worse...
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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    so because one guy that deserted the military said it its true. No fucking way. I bet the us soldiers cut off the guys head too.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    so because one guy that deserted the military said it its true. No fucking way. I bet the us soldiers cut off the guys head too.

    How many do you need to satisfy you. Thanks Roland. I told my daughter about trying to find this and she told me, "Dad you have the book right over here." The book is called "Mission Rejected" by Peter Laufer, how she remembered I'll never know, she must really remember these protest marches we attend here in DC.

    Anyway in the book you can read about many other war crimes and immoral acts by our American soldiers it happens. It just simply not reported, he would never have told that story if he was still in the military, they would have sent him of somewhere to keep it from you and I.

    Here's more on the story Thursday, June 15th, 2006
    Mission Rejected: U.S. Soldiers Who Say No To Iraq    .

    Peace
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    g under p wrote:
    How many do you need to satisfy you. Thanks Roland. I told my daughter about trying to find this and she told me, "Dad you have the book right over here." The book is called "Mission Rejected" by Peter Laufer, how she remembered I'll never know, she must really remember these protest marches we attend here in DC.

    Anyway in the book you can read about many other war crimes and immoral acts by our American soldiers it happens. It just simply not reported, he would never have told that story if he was still in the military, they would have sent him of somewhere to keep it from you and I.

    Here's more on the story Thursday, June 15th, 2006
    Mission Rejected: U.S. Soldiers Who Say No To Iraq    .

    Peace

    The book gives more detail on exactly how those Iraqi citizen's were decapitated and as a soldier like you and I, you must know what a weapon like the M60 is capable of.

    WAR is hell and shit happens when they come down that's why most Americans never ever want to know the immorality of it all. We desensitize it to all lengths.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    There aren't really any words I can use right now. Sweet jesus.. the inhumanity of it. The destruction of life and happiness. This boy's future and that of his family. I am constantly astounded by the lack of respect that people can have. Dumbfounded by the things done in the "name" of god or for peace. Sad.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    TrixieCat wrote:
    Since someone was wondering why they never see me here....
    If anyone would like a little more insight as to what goes through the minds of these young boys, I just read a book that helped me:
    A Long Way Gone:Memoirs of a boy soldier by Ishmael Reah
    I just finished that book and thought it was outstanding.

    Ahnimus ... it's an autobiography by a man who was a child soldier in Sierra Leone, and the long rehabilitation after he was rescued from the fighting by UNICEF. He tells how it happens ... he lost his family, was running for his life with some other boys, trying to avoid being recruited as a soldier by either side. He finally had no choice other than to join, or he'd have certainly died. He talks about the gradual indoctrination, how drugs were freely available to dull their senses so they'd become fighting machines, the psychological process that takes over and eventually numbs the mind to the endless brutality.

    It's a story of war, but I think you can learn a lot about what goes on in the mind of anyone who is horribly brutalized over a long period of time, as are many of the people in our own prisons.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    hippiemom wrote:
    I just finished that book and thought it was outstanding.

    Ahnimus ... it's an autobiography by a man who was a child soldier in Sierra Leone, and the long rehabilitation after he was rescued from the fighting by UNICEF. He tells how it happens ... he lost his family, was running for his life with some other boys, trying to avoid being recruited as a soldier by either side. He finally had no choice other than to join, or he'd have certainly died. He talks about the gradual indoctrination, how drugs were freely available to dull their senses so they'd become fighting machines, the psychological process that takes over and eventually numbs the mind to the endless brutality.

    It's a story of war, but I think you can learn a lot about what goes on in the mind of anyone who is horribly brutalized over a long period of time, as are many of the people in our own prisons.
    I need to pick that up. The guy was on Stewart.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    hippiemom wrote:
    I just finished that book and thought it was outstanding.

    Ahnimus ... it's an autobiography by a man who was a child soldier in Sierra Leone, and the long rehabilitation after he was rescued from the fighting by UNICEF. He tells how it happens ... he lost his family, was running for his life with some other boys, trying to avoid being recruited as a soldier by either side. He finally had no choice other than to join, or he'd have certainly died. He talks about the gradual indoctrination, how drugs were freely available to dull their senses so they'd become fighting machines, the psychological process that takes over and eventually numbs the mind to the endless brutality.

    It's a story of war, but I think you can learn a lot about what goes on in the mind of anyone who is horribly brutalized over a long period of time, as are many of the people in our own prisons.

    What you say here is true, with my short time in the military I was trained to kill. I could do it very well, I was mentally trained for war anywhere in the world. Trained so well that I was begging for a war to breakout anywhere in the world, I wanted to be there to lead my men.

    Luckly I'm completely the opposite of that kind of mentality now, however many friends of mine have never turned themselves around from that kind of mental thinking.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    hippiemom wrote:
    I just finished that book and thought it was outstanding.

    Ahnimus ... it's an autobiography by a man who was a child soldier in Sierra Leone, and the long rehabilitation after he was rescued from the fighting by UNICEF. He tells how it happens ... he lost his family, was running for his life with some other boys, trying to avoid being recruited as a soldier by either side. He finally had no choice other than to join, or he'd have certainly died. He talks about the gradual indoctrination, how drugs were freely available to dull their senses so they'd become fighting machines, the psychological process that takes over and eventually numbs the mind to the endless brutality.

    It's a story of war, but I think you can learn a lot about what goes on in the mind of anyone who is horribly brutalized over a long period of time, as are many of the people in our own prisons.

    Sounds exactly like parts of the movie Blood Diamond. The RUF.
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  • fraidknot
    fraidknot Posts: 38
    it took 9 posts to get someone to blame this on the US and not the evil bastards who actually did it. That is actually surprising; I figured it would be the first post blaming bush for burning this boy.

    I don't venture into the politics boards here much, but I saw this and its damn appalling... but then again, I think as an American, I just don’t get some of the things done in other countries. I’ve heard of the ritual genital mutilation, or the honor killings, or the education of young men to hate others. (when I was in school, no one said kill the Muslims.) I think as an American, I need to look at this report as sad, messed up, horrible, and pray for this boy and his family... but I also need to realize that many Americans and others would use this as a way to spread discontent and negativity with the US involvement in Iraq.

    I get the argument that war is hell and our own guys commit crimes sometimes... but lets think about this story honestly and not use it as a way to drum up support for your cause...

    Thanks to the military guys commenting here for your service to our nation.

    - jar
  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    People do sick shit all over the world. Is this better or worse than the guy from Indianapolis who threw his 4 year old out to freeze to death in the dead of winter last year? As dumb as the war is, it's not the wars fault or Bush's fault or Al Qaeda's fault that some nuts burned this kid. Some people are just fucking crazy and have no respect for life.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    fraidknot wrote:
    it took 9 posts to get someone to blame this on the US and not the evil bastards who actually did it. That is actually surprising; I figured it would be the first post blaming bush for burning this boy.

    I don't venture into the politics boards here much, but I saw this and its damn appalling... but then again, I think as an American, I just don’t get some of the things done in other countries. I’ve heard of the ritual genital mutilation, or the honor killings, or the education of young men to hate others. (when I was in school, no one said kill the Muslims.) I think as an American, I need to look at this report as sad, messed up, horrible, and pray for this boy and his family... but I also need to realize that many Americans and others would use this as a way to spread discontent and negativity with the US involvement in Iraq.

    I get the argument that war is hell and our own guys commit crimes sometimes... but lets think about this story honestly and not use it as a way to drum up support for your cause...

    Thanks to the military guys commenting here for your service to our nation.

    - jar

    Sadly though stories like this has happened and IS happening as we speak 1000 times over and I was looking at the big picture as to why this could happen to this innocent child. It just bothers me to no end that it is believed that Americans or I should say American soldiers are NOT capable of such heinous acts in Iraq.

    Sadly we're trained to kill, however when your young and thrown into some hideous situations well some outlandish things can happen.

    I pray for peace in Iraq and for peace to this boy and his family. War is truly hell.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • fraidknot
    fraidknot Posts: 38
    g under p wrote:
    It just bothers me to no end that it is believed that Americans or I should say American soldiers are NOT capable of such heinous acts in Iraq.

    I admited that it happens... 1000 times over is kind of an unqualified statement... but it sure does happen. and its wrong... but its not like GW or Cheny or an American Soldier had anything whatso ever, even undirectly to do with this and its sad that the real problem isnt what people see. There are awful people out there, and someone or some nation should do something about them before it gets worse.

    jar
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    WE should all start killing people we don't like...Wow...think of how much better the world will be.....everyone killing each other...and they killed two friends...and they killed two friends...and so on....and so on....awesome...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    fraidknot wrote:
    I admited that it happens... 1000 times over is kind of an unqualified statement... but it sure does happen. and its wrong... but its not like GW or Cheny or an American Soldier had anything whatso ever, even undirectly to do with this and its sad that the real problem isnt what people see. There are awful people out there, and someone or some nation should do something about them before it gets worse.

    jar

    What...are you serious, if we had not invaded and occuppied Iraq over half a million Iraqi people would be still alive TODAY! You think every time we drop a bomb it kills only the so called enemy, innocent bystanders like alittle boy like this gets killed. We must wonder why there appears to be an endless supply of freedom fighters.

    Think for a moment...imagine the US invaded occupied, your resources taken no water, electricity your family destroyed upon suspicion of being the enemy. Would you sit by and do nothing and that same invasion would be traced right back to whomever ordered such invasion? "The Decider"

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    blackredyellow wrote:
    It takes a sick person to blame this on the US.

    No kidding. Who can read a story like that and still have the stomach to turn it into a political debate? Unbelievable.
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  • mdigenakis
    mdigenakis Posts: 1,337
    very.
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