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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Isn't real science so much better than crazy made-up internet crap.


    And the plane in the center not emitting anything explains what exactly Kel?

    You are aware of the findings in Germany where meteorologists they have this stuff documented on weather radar maps and the military there admits they do it right?

    It's used to scramble satellite surveillance signals to provide ground camouflage during military exercises. They say they don't use very much during their training exercises, and it isn't harmful.

    Now if you believe that last past about it not being bad for the lungs, I have a financial offer from Nigeria you I can forward you..
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I mean come on dude. did someone in an uncle sam costume abuse you as a child?
    Not me.

    An American holocaust happens every year though, there is plenty of abuse. 11-13 million dead and dying, thanks to Uncle Sam and in no small part to its 'loans' from the IMF and WB. Countries have to meet certain structural adjustments before they can accept a loan, its a form of economic control. These countries the IMF "adjusts" (over 150 last count) and others have 11-13 million people dying from easily curable diseases or starvation every year. Every year, according to the UN. That's criminal.

    And we, the American people, let our gov't get away with this shit because we are too apathetic and ignorant to rise up and demand they stop-and maybe these chem trails have something to do with our apathy, maybe not. But a country that forces programs on gov'ts that end up killing 10 million people ever year is capable of anything.

    Question authority.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    “The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous.”

    “Now it will be easy to carry on the fight, for we can call on all the resources of the State. Radio and press are at our disposal. We shall stage a masterpiece of propaganda.”

    "Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.”

    Any guesses who made those quotes?

    Adolph himself...
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  • redsdisease
    redsdisease Posts: 147
    I don't need conspiracy theories. The emissions from jet fuel is what I worry about. Soooo dirty.
    Jimmy Carter has disco fever.
  • ClimberInOz
    ClimberInOz Posts: 216
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    And the plane in the center not emitting anything explains what exactly Kel?

    Whilst I am by no means an expert on contrails, the size and thickness of these particular trails look more like the condensation trails produced by engine exhaust (thicker- take on the appearence of cirrus clouds after a while), rather then the contrails produced by wingtip vortices (these tend to be thinner).

    If that is the case, then what is visible is merely a product of hydrocarbon combustion, and the trail itself is actually produced by water vapour (both from the plane, and in the atmosphere).

    It is also then helps us to explain the fact that the planes do not all produce contrails- as many factors, including engine efficiency and localised atmospheric conditions can affect the production of engine exhaust contrails.

    I could be wrong- but this is certainly one possible explanation.
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    And the plane in the center not emitting anything explains what exactly Kel?


    It's used to scramble satellite surveillance signals to provide ground camouflage during military exercises. They say they don't use very much during their training exercises, and it isn't harmful.

    The video is pretty bad, maybe the plane in the center is a different type of plane, with different shaped wings. As far as providing camouflage, wouldn't a long narrow strip in the sky pretty much be the most usless camouflage every (unless soldiers were marching in a very long narrow line).
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Now if you believe that last past about it not being bad for the lungs, I have a financial offer from Nigeria you I can forward you..

    I love that, I mean since I don't believe in crazy interenet conspiracy theories, then I am obviously the naive one.
  • TheVoiceInside
    TheVoiceInside Posts: 361
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrails

    Wiki gives both sides of the issue. I guess it alll comes down to wether you trust the goverment or you dont. I dont, so I kind off fall on the side that believes the chemtrail theory. I believe that they are making us sick on purpose. I dont think they want us dead just sick so that we keep the pharmaceutical happy. Oh well nothing we can do about it.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    The video is pretty bad, maybe the plane in the center is a different type of plane, with different shaped wings. As far as providing camouflage, wouldn't a long narrow strip in the sky pretty much be the most usless camouflage every (unless soldiers were marching in a very long narrow line).



    I love that, I mean since I don't believe in crazy interenet conspiracy theories, then I am obviously the naive one.

    It's a pretty clear video. How do you explain the abruptness of the trails with your atmosphere theory?

    Seriously though, think about it.

    And it is known that military uses aerosols to scramble radar signals.

    So there you have it. no conspiracy, just observation using the the senses.
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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    TheVoiceInside wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrails

    Wiki gives both sides of the issue. I guess it alll comes down to wether you trust the goverment or you dont. I dont, so I kind off fall on the side that believes the chemtrail theory. I believe that they are making us sick on purpose. I dont think they want us dead just sick so that we keep the pharmaceutical happy. Oh well nothing we can do about it.

    But if the government is trying to make people sick there are too many unanswerable questions. I mean if a government wanted to spray people with something, why not spray people with something a little less visible. And why not use something that actually falls to the earth rather than something that stays in the sky. Plus wouldn't it be better to use something that is a wide spray that covers more area, like a crop duster. Seriously I think if the government wanted to do this, they could find a much more effective and covert way of doing it. And if it really is the government, why is this something I have been seeing since I was a kid and in that time there have been quite a few changes in government not to mention you see this in many countries (so are they all in on it even when there are changes in government?). Seriously, Occam's razor.
  • TheVoiceInside
    TheVoiceInside Posts: 361
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    But if the government is trying to make people sick there are too many unanswerable questions. I mean if a government wanted to spray people with something, why not spray people with something a little less visible. And why not use something that actually falls to the earth rather than something that stays in the sky. Plus wouldn't it be better to use something that is a wide spray that covers more area, like a crop duster. Seriously I think if the government wanted to do this, they could find a much more effective and covert way of doing it. And if it really is the government, why is this something I have been seeing since I was a kid and in that time there have been quite a few changes in government not to mention you see this in many countries (so are they all in on it even when there are changes in government?). Seriously, Occam's razor.


    I get your skepticsm, but it doesnt matter if its visible most people just think its cloud formations and if the public ask they just deny it and say its all a conspiracy and anyone who dares questions it is called a crazy person. Because the goverment would never lie ;)
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    The military uses it on purpose to scramble radar signals.

    It's admitted and documented.

    Does anyone read?

    I'm noticing the anti conspiracy people are often more adamant in the ignorant sense than the people they point fingers at...

    It's quite something...
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    I mean if a government wanted to spray people with something, why not spray people with something a little less visible.

    This is exactly right. The kooks like to create fantastic tales, but if the gov't were really trying to poison us using jets, they certainly wouldn't be using visible plumes.
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Seriously, Occam's razor.

    Good luck. I tried this a few times back when I would enter 9/11 threads and it is a concept lost on those who try to spin complicated, exciting, fantastic tales.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    The military uses it on purpose to scramble radar signals.

    It's admitted and documented.

    Does anyone read?

    Cool! I can understand why they'd use plume's of clouds to do that. It makes no sense for them to do the same thing when dispersing poisons or control agents or human miracle grow, or whatever you think they're doing.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jeffbr wrote:
    Cool! I can understand why they'd use plume's of clouds to do that. It makes no sense for them to do the same thing when dispersing poisons or control agents or human miracle grow, or whatever you think they're doing.

    you want to inhale some metal and plastic aerosols that block radar signals?

    you think it's healthy or cool? are you mental?

    honestly...the reasoning of some people is frightening.

    The food industry itself is sprayed with toxins, and this doesn't even phase you...

    unbelievable...

    edit: I should add the military claims Depleted Uranium is safe as well...and we all know how that situation is panning out.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Ok what exactly is this supposed to be?

    Three planes flying in formation, the two outside ones turn on in mid air, the one in the middle emits nothing at the same altitude.

    Were they dumping fuel, and is that what it looks like when planes dump fuel?

    or is it just a nice CGI?

    wierd...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2OdjQokJI8

    edit: It looks more like 4 planes shutting off at different intervals.


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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    https://www.une.edu/images/userImages/stevesmith/Page_8309/tinhat3.jpg

    Is that you?
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    OK, since these things are so visible, people know when and where they're being dispersed. Since that is the case, they've certainly taken samples, and have isolated the agents being used. Please link me to the results published by independent labs so we can know what it is.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jeffbr wrote:
    OK, since these things are so visible, people know when and where they're being dispersed. Since that is the case, they've certainly taken samples, and have isolated the agents being used. Please link me to the results published by independent labs so we can know what it is.

    It's not that simple. You need to fly into the could formation itself to collect a sample.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It's not that simple. You need to fly into the could formation itself to collect a sample.

    so how does it get into our lungs and turn us into obedient zombies?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Here's the vid on German television

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVc9GX5K_As
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