we must raise taxes.

stupidcorporatewhore wrote:

sorry guys but it's true.

no one trying to elected would dare speak of it but they all know it's gotta happen.

my eight year old niece knows the basic principals of a checkbook...

If you spend more money than you bring in, you're in overdraft

any questions?

...
I agree. It's not the taxes that's the problem.. it's the SPENDING. How about cutting the recent 20 billion dollars in Arms to the Middle East and spend it on preventative health care so your kid doesn't run the risk of catching the flu at the Mall?
And there is almost 1 trillion dollars in War funds that we are passing down to our kids (and their kids). Where is the personal responsibility I always hear about? This is OUR generation's war. If we want it... we should have to pay for it.

farfromglorified wrote:

I have a question: If your entire thesis is that the money I've given to the government has been mismanged by people with less financial knowledge than your eight year old neice, why in the world would you then suggest I should give them more money?

Wow. Ding ding ding ding!

stupidcorporatewhore wrote:

sorry guys but it's true.

no one trying to elected would dare speak of it but they all know it's gotta happen.

my eight year old niece knows the basic principals of a checkbook...

If you spend more money than you bring in, you're in overdraft

any questions?

I didn't agree to have my government waste money on a continuing "civil war".

I didn't agree to have my government waste money on contractors who defaulted on their contracts.

I didn't agree to have my government send millions of dollars IN CASH to a foreign country and have it get LOST.

I didn't agree to have my government pour billions of dollars into worthless security and military equipment while still counting the dead and dying.

I didn't agree to have my government pour millions of dollars into killers for hire contractors under the protection of the U.S. flag.

I didn't agree to have my government spend millions of dollars on homeland security only to watch a U.S. city go without help, to watch border patrols go on trial for doing their job, to watch airport security be reduced to 2 oz. bottles, while prices rose and delays reached 6 to 8 hours.

I didn't agree to have my government spend millions of dollars on homeland security only to watch super prision to house 5 people get built as a payback to a State senator, while our shipping ports and railways remain easy targets.

What you fail to realize is that the poor, the needy and your 8 year old niece, aren't paying taxes. Where are these increase taxes coming from, surely not the wealthy. It is the middle class families, the single person, couples, college student workers, etc. These are the people who will feel the burden of the needed increased taxes and spending cuts. The very people who are being laid off due to corporate restructure, outsourcing, NATFA, and automation. The same day Bush announced his stimulus package, which has NOT taken effect yet, prices on basic items, milk, bread, butter, cheese, peanut butter, water, soap, toilet paper, etc. went up a couple of pennies. Doesn't seem like much, but just think, that $800 is a one-time check. Those prices that jumped a couple of pennies are long term, they won't decrease, they will only increase. Just like at the gas pump, when prices went down, no one seemed to take notice or bitch about the fact that their utility bills were edging up and they haven't gone down. States are already talking tax increases, spending cuts, reduction of services, and increase cost for services.

Get back some that wasted money from these corporations and friendly people or release some of the billions and billions of dollars seized from Iraq. Surely America's sacrific was worth more than $800 and a 3/4 rate cut.

stupidcorporatewhore wrote:

Because we are spending more than we are taking in. we must take in more.

No. You should spend less. If your 8 year old neice comes to you and says "I just bought 15,000 lollipops on your credit card", do you hand her another credit card????

we're not living in some fantasy world where we can continue to operate in a deficit. something has to give. we have to pull the plug on iraq, cut military spending (the budget of which is roughly the amount of every countries budget on the planet COMBINED) Ask corporations to pay their fair share etc tax the rich harder. spend the money smarter.

If you want to talk "fair share", you might try looking at the 44% of American citizens who pay nothing. Please spare this "fair share" crap until you'll address that population. The rich already pay 95% of your taxes.

just a thought, the last democrat that was president balanced the budget and built a surplus. Electing a democrat might be a good start

It might be a great start! Or it might be a complete debacle. Neither party has demonstrated that it can spend money wisely or collect it based on non-aggression.

people in 1931 probably thought the same thing

I'm sure they did. You didn't pay any attention to them then. Now look at you...demanding more.

puremagic wrote:

What you fail to realize is that the poor, the needy and your 8 year old niece, aren't paying taxes. Where are these increase taxes coming from, surely not the wealthy. It is the middle class families, the single person, couples, college student workers, etc. These are the people who will feel the burden of the needed increased taxes and spending cuts. The very people who are being laid off due to corporate restructure, outsourcing, NATFA, and automation. The same day Bush announced his stimulus package, which has NOT taken effect yet, prices on basic items, milk, bread, butter, cheese, peanut butter, water, soap, toilet paper, etc. went up a couple of pennies. Doesn't seem like much, but just think, that $800 is a one-time check. Those prices that jumped a couple of pennies are long term, they won't decrease, they will only increase. Just like at the gas pump, when prices went down, no one seemed to take notice or bitch about the fact that their utility bills were edging up and they haven't gone down. States are already talking tax increases, spending cuts, reduction of services, and increase cost for services.

I think it is hilarious when American's complain about being taxed too heavily. Isn't the income tax rate there something like 15%. Plus in most states there is little or no sales tax (and there is definetly no national sales tax). Taxes in Canada are way higher, and yes we have health care to pay for, but we also have a federal government that has ran a surplus for the last at least 10 years.

Kel Varnsen wrote:

I think it is hilarious when American's complain about being taxed too heavily. Isn't the income tax rate there something like 15%. Plus in most states there is little or no sales tax (and there is definetly no national sales tax). Taxes in Canada are way higher, and yes we have health care to pay for, but we also have a federal government that has ran a surplus for the last at least 10 years.

um no, its more like 25-38%, and thats just federal
then state
then city (depending on where you live)
then property (if you own)
and then sales tax is 8.25%

I work til frigging april to pay my taxes

End this excessive military spending, cut the fat and tell me when we are having a tea party becuase I think we pay much more in taxes (on a percentage basis) than the colonists did

Kel Varnsen wrote:

a federal government that has ran a surplus for the last at least 10 years.

If a government runs a surplus, they are overcharging their citizens for living there.