Why we went to war in Iraq

RolandTD20Kdrummer
RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
History speaks and exposes the truths. But what does history show us?

A history of international involvement in the middle east:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU2wL0Eq5ZQ
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • IndianSummer
    IndianSummer Posts: 854
    usa went to war in iraq to make israel safe from the threat iraq and saddam posed to the chosen people.

    from a religious reference frame, this war was a small matter of jews using christians to keep the muslims at bay.


    and by the looks of it, there is more to come.
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

    Take my hand, my child of love
    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    IndianSummer wrote:
    usa went to war in iraq to make israel safe from the threat iraq and saddam posed to the chosen people.

    from a religious reference frame, this war was a small matter of jews using christians to keep the muslims at bay.


    and by the looks of it, there is more to come.

    :D good one...nice punch line
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    IndianSummer wrote:
    usa went to war in iraq to make israel safe from the threat iraq and saddam posed to the chosen people.

    from a religious reference frame, this war was a small matter of jews using christians to keep the muslims at bay.


    and by the looks of it, there is more to come.

    You are joking, right?
  • IndianSummer
    IndianSummer Posts: 854
    no i said it in all seriousness.

    this war is a war to protect jews from muslims using christians.
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

    Take my hand, my child of love
    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I'll drop a hint at what war is about today......freaking KA-ching!

    Haliburton KBR, CACI, Blackwater, L3 Titan corporation to name a few.

    Look at who invests in those companies, and how much money they are making. You'll find lots of big Saudi's (et all in the middle east) reaping up huuuuge cash in the form of American taxpayer money.

    That's what it's all about.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    IndianSummer wrote:
    no i said it in all seriousness.

    this war is a war to protect jews from muslims using christians.


    Yes that and more
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • IndianSummer
    IndianSummer Posts: 854
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I'll drop a hint at what war is about today......freaking KA-ching!

    Haliburton KBR, CACI, Blackwater, L3 Titan corporation to name a few.

    Look at who invests in those companies, and how much money they are making. You'll find lots of big Saudi's (et all in the middle east) reaping up huuuuge cash in the form of American taxpayer money.

    That's what it's all about.
    the principle share holders in most of those companies are also jews.
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

    Take my hand, my child of love
    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    IndianSummer wrote:
    usa went to war in iraq to make israel safe from the threat iraq and saddam posed to the chosen people.

    from a religious reference frame, this war was a small matter of jews using christians to keep the muslims at bay.


    and by the looks of it, there is more to come.


    Iraq wasn't a threat to anyone, least of all Israel. Iran and Syria weren't even worried about an imminent Iraqi invasion, and they live right next door. Israel, with 100 times their combined military budgets was not in the least bit concerned.

    The media, serving the interests of those that run things, led us to believe that Iraq was a threat...which we now know to be false.

    This isn't some crusade, where did you get that idea? I haven't heard about this
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    IndianSummer wrote:
    the principle share holders in most of those companies are also jews.

    I think war has become modernized to the point that now it is used as a means of conducting hardball business in order to secure and maximize profits for the individuals involved. I find it interesting that Haliburton is moving to Dubai. Dubai has no taxes. It will be much harder to inquire into the financial activities of Haliburton having to go through another gov't system. A CEO friend of mine was telling me that if you're a male born in Duabai the gov't provide you a million dollar home to live in for free.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    IndianSummer wrote:
    no i said it in all seriousness.

    this war is a war to protect jews from muslims using christians.

    And what exactly were Iraqis going to use to attack Israel? Stones? Or a more dangerous weapon, such as rocks? :confused:
  • Derrick
    Derrick Posts: 475
    oil
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    wmd and the iraq-al queda connection ;)
  • IndianSummer
    IndianSummer Posts: 854
    Byrnzie wrote:
    And what exactly were Iraqis going to use to attack Israel? Stones? Or a more dangerous weapon, such as rocks? :confused:
    WMD's, the media would have us believe.
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

    Take my hand, my child of love
    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    Why don't people believe we went to Iraq to replace a brutal dictator with an electorate; which in turn would help spread democracy to other parts of the region?
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    NCfan wrote:
    Why don't people believe we went to Iraq to replace a brutal dictator with an electorate; which in turn would help spread democracy to other parts of the region?

    b/c that's a lie
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    NCfan wrote:
    Why don't people believe we went to Iraq to replace a brutal dictator with an electorate; which in turn would help spread democracy to other parts of the region?

    Some do...
    But not many outside of America believe for one moment that America acts for anyones good but its own....
    There is absolutely no precedent to believe that they would act so benevolently...
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NCfan wrote:
    Why don't people believe we went to Iraq to replace a brutal dictator with an electorate; which in turn would help spread democracy to other parts of the region?

    Is that what America was trying to do when it overthrew President Allende of Chile, for example?
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    El_Kabong wrote:
    b/c that's a lie

    At best, it's an opinion. The only people who truly know are at the top levels of our government. At any rate, to me the spreading democracy theory makes much more sense than any other theory out there I've heard.

    I'm a fairly bright guy, and I'm open-minded as well. A spade is a spade. Bush is one of the worst presidents in the history of our country, let alone one of the worst world leaders of all time. Mistake after mistake has been made in Iraq, and those mistakes have been covered up by smug, condecending lies and avoidance. Some of the actions of our politicians on both sides is down right criminal, and you can try Bush first for all I care.

    But unless some new evidence comes to light, there is no way you're going to convince me that America has not, overall, acted nobly and with a good moral purpose (that serves all of humanity not just the US) in Iraq.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NCfan wrote:
    But unless some new evidence comes to light, there is no way you're going to convince me that America has not, overall, acted nobly and with a good moral purpose (that serves all of humanity not just the US) in Iraq.

    3197 dead Americans.
    23,417 wounded Americans.
    An estimated 600,000 dead Iraqi's.
    Halliburton awarded $70 Million (284 percent increase in profits) by the Pentagon in the second quarter of 2005 alone.
    Last year it made $2.6bn (£1.3bn) in profits from revenues of $22.6bn.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/article2356067.ece
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Byrnzie wrote:
    3197 dead Americans.
    23,417 wounded Americans.
    An estimated 600,000 dead Iraqi's.
    Halliburton awarded $70 Million (284 percent increase in profits) by the Pentagon in the second quarter of 2005 alone.

    Yea, a guy during that BB2006 conference said "We keep blaming radical Islam, but if you look on the ground, it's Christians killing Muslims."
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire

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