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 Look at Spain pre-Franco.darthvedder81 wrote:That's very true. It's not a perfect system but it's better than every other economic system that's been tried in history. The problem with the left is they aim for impossible Utopian perfection and end up screwing everyone over (except the political elite of course). Free-markets can be ugly and can make things hard for some people but guess what? That's life. The greatest good for the greatest amount should be the aim of any economic system and that's something that socialism has never, ever been able to provide with any reasonable consistency.
 They not only had a unctioning socialist state but it was anarchist as well-no governement. It worked great. Native Americans, there's more.
 It can be done.0
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            darthvedder81 wrote:That's very true. It's not a perfect system but it's better than every other economic system that's been tried in history. The problem with the left is they aim for impossible Utopian perfection and end up screwing everyone over (except the political elite of course). Free-markets can be ugly and can make things hard for some people but guess what? That's life. The greatest good for the greatest amount should be the aim of any economic system and that's something that socialism has never, ever been able to provide with any reasonable consistency.
 the political elite benefit from socialistic policies?? ... do you have any basis for this assertation??
 the current model serves only the wealthy and connected - everything is based on the exploitation of others - if you want to consider that "life" - that's fine but it doesn't make it right ... nor just ...0
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            polaris wrote:the political elite benefit from socialistic policies?? ... do you have any basis for this assertation??
 I think I just threw up a little.0
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            polaris wrote:the political elite benefit from socialistic policies?? ... do you have any basis for this assertation??
 are you being serious?polaris wrote:the current model serves only the wealthy and connected - everything is based on the exploitation of others - if you want to consider that "life" - that's fine but it doesn't make it right ... nor just ...
 I'm not wealthy or connected and the current model serves me just fine.0
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