Roll one up... Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer’s

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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    rigneyclan wrote:
    marijuana is fucking stupid.


    My g/f thinks like this and other than her knowing some people close to her abusing it she really can't name anymore reason why.

    So, what's your reasoning

    (You don't have to answer if it's too personal)
  • rigneyclan
    rigneyclan Posts: 289
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    My g/f thinks like this and other than her knowing some people close to her abusing it she really can't name anymore reason why.

    So, what's your reasoning

    (You don't have to answer if it's too personal)

    A friend of mine got killed because of it.
    7/16/06 7/18/06
  • edgarcamp
    edgarcamp Posts: 100
    SuzannePjam wrote:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15145917/#storyContinued

    Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer’s
    Active ingredient in pot may help preserve brain function

    Updated: 4:31 p.m. ET Oct 5, 2006

    WASHINGTON - Good news for aging hippies: smoking pot may stave off Alzheimer’s disease.

    New research shows that the active ingredient in marijuana may prevent the progression of the disease by preserving levels of an important neurotransmitter that allows the brain to function.

    Researchers at the Scripps Research Institute in California found that marijuana’s active ingredient, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, can prevent the neurotransmitter acetylcholine from breaking down more effectively than commercially marketed drugs.

    THC is also more effective at blocking clumps of protein that can inhibit memory and cognition in Alzheimer’s patients, the researchers reported in the journal Molecular Pharmaceutics.

    The researchers said their discovery could lead to more effective drug treatment for Alzheimer’s, the leading cause of dementia among the elderly.
    Those afflicted with Alzheimer’s suffer from memory loss, impaired decision-making, and diminished language and movement skills. The ultimate cause of the disease is unknown, though it is believed to be hereditary.
    Marijuana is used to relieve glaucoma and can help reduce side effects from cancer and AIDS treatment.



    Cool.
  • edgarcamp
    edgarcamp Posts: 100
    London Calling wrote:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=15363608

    Recent research has clarified a number of important questions concerning adverse effects of cannabis on health. A causal role of acute cannabis intoxication in motor vehicle and other accidents has now been shown by the presence of measurable levels of Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in the blood of injured drivers in the absence of alcohol or other drugs, by surveys of driving under the influence of cannabis, and by significantly higher accident culpability risk of drivers using cannabis. Chronic inflammatory and precancerous changes in the airways have been demonstrated in cannabis smokers, and the most recent case-control study shows an increased risk of airways cancer that is proportional to the amount of cannabis use. Several different studies indicate that the epidemiological link between cannabis use and schizophrenia probably represents a causal role of cannabis in precipitating the onset or relapse of schizophrenia. A weaker but significant link between cannabis and depression has been found in various cohort studies, but the nature of the link is not yet clear. A large body of evidence now demonstrates that cannabis dependence, both behavioral and physical, does occur in about 7-10% of regular users, and that early onset of use, and especially of weekly or daily use, is a strong predictor of future dependence. Cognitive impairments of various types are readily demonstrable during acute cannabis intoxication, but there is no suitable evidence yet available to permit a decision as to whether long-lasting or permanent functional losses can result from chronic heavy use in adults. However, a small but growing body of evidence indicates subtle but apparently permanent effects on memory, information processing, and executive functions, in the offspring of women who used cannabis during pregnancy. In total, the evidence indicates that regular heavy use of cannabis carries significant risks for the individual user and for the health care system.


    Damnit.
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    rigneyclan wrote:
    A friend of mine got killed because of it.


    Damn man, I'm sorry. I hope I didn't offend you either.
  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    rigneyclan wrote:
    marijuana is fucking stupid.

    yes it is.

    and so is everyone that thinks it doesn't have harmful side effects.


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • bill hicks
    bill hicks Posts: 13
    London Calling wrote:
    Problem is you are more likely to die of smoking related diseases before you have a chance to develop alzheimers. Also smoking pot is more carcinognic than tobacco smoking...

    I have to correct you there, smoking pot is NOT more carcinogenic than tobacco smoking. Pot also contains several times less tar than tobacco, so the smoke is milder for the lungs.

    http://www.norml.org.nz/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=582
    London Calling wrote:
    and increases your chances of developing schizophrenia.

    If you are genetically susceptible to a bipolar disorder, maybe. There's no research to this day that has proven a causal link between cannabis use and schizophrenia. Then again, why would you use cannabis - or alcohol, if your family's known for having mental disorders? That's just plain stupid.
  • bill hicks
    bill hicks Posts: 13
    London Calling wrote:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=15363608

    Recent research has clarified a number of important questions concerning adverse effects of cannabis on health. A causal role of acute cannabis intoxication in motor vehicle and other accidents has now been shown by the presence of measurable levels of Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in the blood of injured drivers in the absence of alcohol or other drugs, by surveys of driving under the influence of cannabis, and by significantly higher accident culpability risk of drivers using cannabis.

    Oh this one was the best I've read this week :) Of course cannabis has a causal role IF YOU DRIVE INTOXICATED! Believing something else would be crazy. Give me some real research.

    If you believe this study is proof enough to keep cannabis illegal - then tell me why we shouldn't do the same with alcohol and tobacco. Tobacco is killer drug nr. 1 today, alcohol 2nd.

    http://www.idmu.co.uk/historical.htm - Why cannabis first were made illegal.

    http://www.sky.org/data/who/library/study/ - The famous WHO report classifying cannabis as a less harmless drug than alcohol and tobacco
    On existing patterns of use, cannabis poses a much less serious public health problem than is currently posed by alcohol and tobacco in Western societies.

    http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/ - Nobel prize winner Milton Friedman recommends legalisation of cannabis

    http://www.tripzine.com/print.asp?id=myths - The greatest drug war myths revealed

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=10221315&dopt=Abstract - Study proves no correlations between cognitive decline and cannabis use

    http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/11/25/marijuana-normal041125.html - 57% of Canada for legalisation of cannabis


    Please take a close look at this chart:

    drugaddictionchart4pb.jpg

    Explanations to the chart:

    WITHDRAWAL: Presence and severity of characteristic withdrawal
    symptoms.
    REINFORCEMENT: A measure of the substance’s ability, in human
    and animal tests, to get users to take it again and again, and in
    preference to other substances.
    TOLERANCE: How much of the substance is needed to satisfy
    increasing cravings for it, and the level of stable need that is
    eventually reached.
    DEPENDENCE:How difficult it is for the user to quit, the relapse rate,the
    percentage of people who eventually become dependent, the rating
    users give their own need for the substance and the degree to which the
    substance will be used in the face of evidence that it causes harm.
    INTOXICATION: Though not usually counted as a measure of
    addiction in itself, the level of intoxication is associated with
    addiction and increases the personal and social damage a
    substance may do.

    Source: Jack E. Henningfield, PhD for NIDA, Reported by Philip J. Hilts, New
    York Times, Aug. 2, 1994 “Is Nicotine Addictive? It Depends on Whose Criteria
    You Use.”
  • London Calling
    London Calling Posts: 164
    Why are you limiting your argument to just cannabis? Why not make heroin and cocaine legal? If you want to take part in something illegal then thats the risk you take, dont try and feed us bullshit to make it legal.
    If tobacco came aroung today, it too would be made illegal but then people like you would fight for the legalisation of it and tell us the benefits.
    My personal opinion is that any mind altering substance is wrong, whether it be alcohol or drugs, but i'm not gonna start fighting to make alcohol illegal or drugs legal.
    Tobacco is not a mind altering drug, just a fucked up poison that can lead to severe diseases. It is taxed accordingly (at least in the UK) so the government makes a profit on taxes from cigarettes against money spent on helath care from smoking related diseases.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    London Calling wrote:
    My personal opinion is that any mind altering substance is wrong, whether it be alcohol or drugs.

    Why?
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • London Calling
    London Calling Posts: 164
    Collin wrote:
    Why?

    If someone is not in control of their senses then they pose a danger to the public. If someone gets drunk then walks on the street and gives me verbal abuse (and this has happened on more than one occassion) why should i be expected to accept this as a consequence of alcohol laws.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    London Calling wrote:
    If someone is not in control of their senses then they pose a danger to the public.

    They can pose a danger, not necessarily.

    If someone gets drunk then walks on the street and gives me verbal abuse (and this has happened on more than one occassion) why should i be expected to accept this as a consequence of alcohol laws.

    Well, I'm sorry to hear that, but surely, you can't expect people not to get drunk because some drunkards give other peopel verbal abuse?



    I doubt pot smoker gave you verbal abuse, though...
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,018
    fucking potheads.......
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    London Calling wrote:
    Why are you limiting your argument to just cannabis? Why not make heroin and cocaine legal? If you want to take part in something illegal then thats the risk you take, dont try and feed us bullshit to make it legal.
    If tobacco came aroung today, it too would be made illegal but then people like you would fight for the legalisation of it and tell us the benefits.
    My personal opinion is that any mind altering substance is wrong, whether it be alcohol or drugs, but i'm not gonna start fighting to make alcohol illegal or drugs legal.
    Tobacco is not a mind altering drug, just a fucked up poison that can lead to severe diseases. It is taxed accordingly (at least in the UK) so the government makes a profit on taxes from cigarettes against money spent on helath care from smoking related diseases.


    a bit harsh huh? I dont think anything he "fed" us was bullshit. so you think pot is worse then tobacco? pot may have a stronger effect on the mind but nicotine is extremely physically addictive. pot is not. I would rather have something that takes away pain for people who suffer certain conditions or to have it used as occiasionaly high, to take a break from the stress of a tough day or week. which is the same reasons why people drink. and I would also argue the "mind altering" effects are much worse after 8 beers then a bowl.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    fucking potheads.......
    how contributive...
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,018
    Collin wrote:
    how contributive...
    thank you....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • London Calling
    London Calling Posts: 164
    Collin wrote:
    They can pose a danger, not necessarily.




    Well, I'm sorry to hear that, but surely, you can't expect people not to get drunk because some drunkards give other peopel verbal abuse?



    I doubt pot smoker gave you verbal abuse, though...


    Yeah sorry, CAN pose a danger.

    I'm not advocating that alcohol be banned or tobacco is safer than pot. They all have their pros and cons and these vary depending on which side of the argument they are. Can you be certain that 50 years down the line that their isnt gonna be a class action on the "pot" manufacturers because they didnt warn about the health implications.
    If you wanna relax after a hard days work just jerk off, its safer for all of us ;)
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    London Calling wrote:
    Yeah sorry, CAN pose a danger.

    Well that is a huge difference.
    Can you be certain that 50 years down the line that their isnt gonna be a class action on the "pot" manufacturers because they didnt warn about the health implications.

    Nope.

    If you wanna relax after a hard days work just jerk off, its safer for all of us ;)

    Kittens die when you masturbate.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    thank you....


    speedy your a funny guy,.........and polite. :)
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,018
    jlew24asu wrote:
    speedy your a funny guy and damned good looking.........and polite. :)
    thank you...

    hehehe......
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....

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