Roll one up... Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer’s

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edited October 2006 in A Moving Train
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15145917/#storyContinued

Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer’s
Active ingredient in pot may help preserve brain function

Updated: 4:31 p.m. ET Oct 5, 2006

WASHINGTON - Good news for aging hippies: smoking pot may stave off Alzheimer’s disease.

New research shows that the active ingredient in marijuana may prevent the progression of the disease by preserving levels of an important neurotransmitter that allows the brain to function.

Researchers at the Scripps Research Institute in California found that marijuana’s active ingredient, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, can prevent the neurotransmitter acetylcholine from breaking down more effectively than commercially marketed drugs.

THC is also more effective at blocking clumps of protein that can inhibit memory and cognition in Alzheimer’s patients, the researchers reported in the journal Molecular Pharmaceutics.

The researchers said their discovery could lead to more effective drug treatment for Alzheimer’s, the leading cause of dementia among the elderly.
Those afflicted with Alzheimer’s suffer from memory loss, impaired decision-making, and diminished language and movement skills. The ultimate cause of the disease is unknown, though it is believed to be hereditary.
Marijuana is used to relieve glaucoma and can help reduce side effects from cancer and AIDS treatment.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    this should be legal and cigarettes should be banned. shit is worse then crack
  • robbierobbie Posts: 883
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this should be legal and cigarettes should be banned. shit is worse then crack


    i agree with you!!!!! what are the chances? well, almost, i cant get on board with banning cigaretts, if you want to kill yourself with smokes, have at it. im never for the government banning what we do with our own bodies, but i do see your point.
  • MeatwagonMeatwagon Posts: 108
    Damn...So smoking some pot will give you a loss of short term memory, but help keep Alzheimers at bay???? What the hell, I'm lighting up either way:)
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  • addvsaddvs Posts: 34
    Sweet! I just did my part to keep me from getting Alzheimer's!
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    The researchers said their discovery could lead to more effective drug treatment for Alzheimer’s, the leading cause of dementia among the elderly.
    Those afflicted with Alzheimer’s suffer from memory loss, impaired decision-making, and diminished language and movement skills. The ultimate cause of the disease is unknown, though it is believed to be hereditary.
    Marijuana is used to relieve glaucoma and can help reduce side effects from cancer and AIDS treatment.




    guess i should take it back up again then, b/c it is believed at the end of his life my father most probably suffered from alzheimer's....and one of his brothers, most definitely.

    of course, i already knew of the possible hereditary connection...but yea, it's a scary disease.
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  • reeferchiefreeferchief Posts: 3,569
    The researchers said their discovery could lead to more effective drug treatment for Alzheimer’s, the leading cause of dementia among the elderly.
    Those afflicted with Alzheimer’s suffer from memory loss, impaired decision-making, and diminished language and movement skills. The ultimate cause of the disease is unknown, though it is believed to be hereditary.
    Marijuana is used to relieve glaucoma and can help reduce side effects from cancer and AIDS treatment.




    guess i should take it back up again then, b/c it is believed at the end of his life my father most probably suffered from alzheimer's....and one of his brothers, most definitely.

    of course, i already knew of the possible hereditary connection...but yea, it's a scary disease.

    Damn thats a good excuse to start smoking the weed again if ever I heard one.:)
    Can not be arsed with life no more.
  • a similar study came out a few years back claiming tobacco smoking reduces chances of alzheimers. Problem is you are more likely to die of smoking related diseases before you have a chance to develop alzheimers. Also smoking pot is more carcinognic than tobacco smoking and increases your chances of developing schizophrenia.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Meatwagon wrote:
    Damn...So smoking some pot will give you a loss of short term memory, but help keep Alzheimers at bay????
    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. How can pot really help if it adds to memory loss?
  • paisleypaisley Posts: 14
    there's also a component which helps treat depression...

    but of course, people would rather take man-made chemicals than that evil, natural pot!
    the south hates you too, pearl jam.
  • paisleypaisley Posts: 14
    Meatwagon wrote:
    Damn...So smoking some pot will give you a loss of short term memory, but help keep Alzheimers at bay???? What the hell, I'm lighting up either way:)

    I don't believe that memory loss bullshit. Some people are just stupid. I've known regular smokers who have no problems remembering things.
    the south hates you too, pearl jam.
  • If that's the case why has my memory been shot since I started. Or maybe I was always slow.
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    London Calling has a point ... Smoking pot for years might help to prevent dementia, but damn, your lungs aren't going to look too good.
  • i have mariuahna on docters prescription.....for helping me deal with the pain i have.....i asked her about the memory loss and if that was going to be really bad....she gave me an answer....but i just cannot remember it;)

    no she said that memory loss only is accuring if someone uses 4 or more compleet joints every day....i have a smal glass pipe and i use it onc or twice a day with a really litle amount in it...works fantastic.Better then al those morfine like pills that made me a totally different and unplesant person.
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    apples and oranges, people.

    Yep ... Pot can interfere with some memory functions, true .. Especially working memory. But it also (apparently) affects neurotransmitter levels that are related to Alzeimers. Not the same thing. Alzeimers is a specific disease that happens to involve memory loss as a cardinal symptom.
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    wendy1976 wrote:
    no she said that memory loss only is accuring if someone uses 4 or more compleet joints every day....i have a smal glass pipe and i use it onc or twice a day with a really litle amount in it...works fantastic.Better then al those morfine like pills that made me a totally different and unplesant person.

    Yes, it apparently takes very heavy usage over long periods of time to produce permanent memory deficits.
  • huh? shizophrenia? where did you get that?

    you can also use a vaporizer, which greatly reduces the amount of smoke you take in. or, you can eat it and take no smoke in.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=15363608

    Recent research has clarified a number of important questions concerning adverse effects of cannabis on health. A causal role of acute cannabis intoxication in motor vehicle and other accidents has now been shown by the presence of measurable levels of Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in the blood of injured drivers in the absence of alcohol or other drugs, by surveys of driving under the influence of cannabis, and by significantly higher accident culpability risk of drivers using cannabis. Chronic inflammatory and precancerous changes in the airways have been demonstrated in cannabis smokers, and the most recent case-control study shows an increased risk of airways cancer that is proportional to the amount of cannabis use. Several different studies indicate that the epidemiological link between cannabis use and schizophrenia probably represents a causal role of cannabis in precipitating the onset or relapse of schizophrenia. A weaker but significant link between cannabis and depression has been found in various cohort studies, but the nature of the link is not yet clear. A large body of evidence now demonstrates that cannabis dependence, both behavioral and physical, does occur in about 7-10% of regular users, and that early onset of use, and especially of weekly or daily use, is a strong predictor of future dependence. Cognitive impairments of various types are readily demonstrable during acute cannabis intoxication, but there is no suitable evidence yet available to permit a decision as to whether long-lasting or permanent functional losses can result from chronic heavy use in adults. However, a small but growing body of evidence indicates subtle but apparently permanent effects on memory, information processing, and executive functions, in the offspring of women who used cannabis during pregnancy. In total, the evidence indicates that regular heavy use of cannabis carries significant risks for the individual user and for the health care system.
  • The thought of walking my Grandma's house and seeing her smoking a doob just cracks me up. She suffers from Alzheimers, so far it's progressing **fairly* slowly but she's 86.

    Marijuana should be decriminalized IMO. We can hope......
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. "
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    I'd say my chances of gettng Alzheimer's are pretty much nil.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    wendy1976 wrote:
    i have mariuahna on docters prescription.....for helping me deal with the pain i have.....i asked her about the memory loss and if that was going to be really bad....she gave me an answer....but i just cannot remember it;)

    no she said that memory loss only is accuring if someone uses 4 or more compleet joints every day....i have a smal glass pipe and i use it onc or twice a day with a really litle amount in it...works fantastic.Better then al those morfine like pills that made me a totally different and unplesant person.

    alright then... it'll be smoke only 1 joint in the morning, and smoke two joints at night.


    seriously though, that's good to know. i can't imagine even smoking close to 4 complete joints in one day... who has that kind of cash?? :D
  • marijuana is fucking stupid.
    7/16/06 7/18/06
  • rigneyclan wrote:
    marijuana is fucking stupid.


    My g/f thinks like this and other than her knowing some people close to her abusing it she really can't name anymore reason why.

    So, what's your reasoning

    (You don't have to answer if it's too personal)
  • My g/f thinks like this and other than her knowing some people close to her abusing it she really can't name anymore reason why.

    So, what's your reasoning

    (You don't have to answer if it's too personal)

    A friend of mine got killed because of it.
    7/16/06 7/18/06
  • edgarcampedgarcamp Posts: 100
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15145917/#storyContinued

    Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer’s
    Active ingredient in pot may help preserve brain function

    Updated: 4:31 p.m. ET Oct 5, 2006

    WASHINGTON - Good news for aging hippies: smoking pot may stave off Alzheimer’s disease.

    New research shows that the active ingredient in marijuana may prevent the progression of the disease by preserving levels of an important neurotransmitter that allows the brain to function.

    Researchers at the Scripps Research Institute in California found that marijuana’s active ingredient, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, can prevent the neurotransmitter acetylcholine from breaking down more effectively than commercially marketed drugs.

    THC is also more effective at blocking clumps of protein that can inhibit memory and cognition in Alzheimer’s patients, the researchers reported in the journal Molecular Pharmaceutics.

    The researchers said their discovery could lead to more effective drug treatment for Alzheimer’s, the leading cause of dementia among the elderly.
    Those afflicted with Alzheimer’s suffer from memory loss, impaired decision-making, and diminished language and movement skills. The ultimate cause of the disease is unknown, though it is believed to be hereditary.
    Marijuana is used to relieve glaucoma and can help reduce side effects from cancer and AIDS treatment.



    Cool.
  • edgarcampedgarcamp Posts: 100
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=15363608

    Recent research has clarified a number of important questions concerning adverse effects of cannabis on health. A causal role of acute cannabis intoxication in motor vehicle and other accidents has now been shown by the presence of measurable levels of Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in the blood of injured drivers in the absence of alcohol or other drugs, by surveys of driving under the influence of cannabis, and by significantly higher accident culpability risk of drivers using cannabis. Chronic inflammatory and precancerous changes in the airways have been demonstrated in cannabis smokers, and the most recent case-control study shows an increased risk of airways cancer that is proportional to the amount of cannabis use. Several different studies indicate that the epidemiological link between cannabis use and schizophrenia probably represents a causal role of cannabis in precipitating the onset or relapse of schizophrenia. A weaker but significant link between cannabis and depression has been found in various cohort studies, but the nature of the link is not yet clear. A large body of evidence now demonstrates that cannabis dependence, both behavioral and physical, does occur in about 7-10% of regular users, and that early onset of use, and especially of weekly or daily use, is a strong predictor of future dependence. Cognitive impairments of various types are readily demonstrable during acute cannabis intoxication, but there is no suitable evidence yet available to permit a decision as to whether long-lasting or permanent functional losses can result from chronic heavy use in adults. However, a small but growing body of evidence indicates subtle but apparently permanent effects on memory, information processing, and executive functions, in the offspring of women who used cannabis during pregnancy. In total, the evidence indicates that regular heavy use of cannabis carries significant risks for the individual user and for the health care system.


    Damnit.
  • rigneyclan wrote:
    A friend of mine got killed because of it.


    Damn man, I'm sorry. I hope I didn't offend you either.
  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    rigneyclan wrote:
    marijuana is fucking stupid.

    yes it is.

    and so is everyone that thinks it doesn't have harmful side effects.


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • Problem is you are more likely to die of smoking related diseases before you have a chance to develop alzheimers. Also smoking pot is more carcinognic than tobacco smoking...

    I have to correct you there, smoking pot is NOT more carcinogenic than tobacco smoking. Pot also contains several times less tar than tobacco, so the smoke is milder for the lungs.

    http://www.norml.org.nz/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=582
    and increases your chances of developing schizophrenia.

    If you are genetically susceptible to a bipolar disorder, maybe. There's no research to this day that has proven a causal link between cannabis use and schizophrenia. Then again, why would you use cannabis - or alcohol, if your family's known for having mental disorders? That's just plain stupid.
  • http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=15363608

    Recent research has clarified a number of important questions concerning adverse effects of cannabis on health. A causal role of acute cannabis intoxication in motor vehicle and other accidents has now been shown by the presence of measurable levels of Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in the blood of injured drivers in the absence of alcohol or other drugs, by surveys of driving under the influence of cannabis, and by significantly higher accident culpability risk of drivers using cannabis.

    Oh this one was the best I've read this week :) Of course cannabis has a causal role IF YOU DRIVE INTOXICATED! Believing something else would be crazy. Give me some real research.

    If you believe this study is proof enough to keep cannabis illegal - then tell me why we shouldn't do the same with alcohol and tobacco. Tobacco is killer drug nr. 1 today, alcohol 2nd.

    http://www.idmu.co.uk/historical.htm - Why cannabis first were made illegal.

    http://www.sky.org/data/who/library/study/ - The famous WHO report classifying cannabis as a less harmless drug than alcohol and tobacco
    On existing patterns of use, cannabis poses a much less serious public health problem than is currently posed by alcohol and tobacco in Western societies.

    http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/ - Nobel prize winner Milton Friedman recommends legalisation of cannabis

    http://www.tripzine.com/print.asp?id=myths - The greatest drug war myths revealed

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=10221315&dopt=Abstract - Study proves no correlations between cognitive decline and cannabis use

    http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/11/25/marijuana-normal041125.html - 57% of Canada for legalisation of cannabis


    Please take a close look at this chart:

    drugaddictionchart4pb.jpg

    Explanations to the chart:

    WITHDRAWAL: Presence and severity of characteristic withdrawal
    symptoms.
    REINFORCEMENT: A measure of the substance’s ability, in human
    and animal tests, to get users to take it again and again, and in
    preference to other substances.
    TOLERANCE: How much of the substance is needed to satisfy
    increasing cravings for it, and the level of stable need that is
    eventually reached.
    DEPENDENCE:How difficult it is for the user to quit, the relapse rate,the
    percentage of people who eventually become dependent, the rating
    users give their own need for the substance and the degree to which the
    substance will be used in the face of evidence that it causes harm.
    INTOXICATION: Though not usually counted as a measure of
    addiction in itself, the level of intoxication is associated with
    addiction and increases the personal and social damage a
    substance may do.

    Source: Jack E. Henningfield, PhD for NIDA, Reported by Philip J. Hilts, New
    York Times, Aug. 2, 1994 “Is Nicotine Addictive? It Depends on Whose Criteria
    You Use.”
  • Why are you limiting your argument to just cannabis? Why not make heroin and cocaine legal? If you want to take part in something illegal then thats the risk you take, dont try and feed us bullshit to make it legal.
    If tobacco came aroung today, it too would be made illegal but then people like you would fight for the legalisation of it and tell us the benefits.
    My personal opinion is that any mind altering substance is wrong, whether it be alcohol or drugs, but i'm not gonna start fighting to make alcohol illegal or drugs legal.
    Tobacco is not a mind altering drug, just a fucked up poison that can lead to severe diseases. It is taxed accordingly (at least in the UK) so the government makes a profit on taxes from cigarettes against money spent on helath care from smoking related diseases.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    My personal opinion is that any mind altering substance is wrong, whether it be alcohol or drugs.

    Why?
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