Fahrenheit 9/11 looking back

RolandTD20Kdrummer
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edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
CBC is airing this on TV right now.

Looking back at this movie, it is astonishing how accurate and revealing it was/is.

It really solidifies how much of a farce the Iraq war really is.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6387831398516462334&q=fahrenheit+9%2F11&total=315&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Bush's hopeless failure as a president summed up in a couple hours.

Brutal.

Michael totally nailed it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • BetterThanYou
    BetterThanYou Posts: 853
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    CBC is airing this on TV right now.

    Looking back at this movie, it is astonishing how accurate and revealing it was/is.

    It really solidifies how much of a farce the Iraq war really is.

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6387831398516462334&q=fahrenheit+9%2F11&total=315&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

    Bush's hopeless failure as a president summed up in a couple hours.

    Brutal.

    Michael totally nailed it.

    they have an over abundance of this dvd in the $6 bin at......shit, what store did i see that? oh well, can't remember right now. i just remember it was six bucks, and nobody was buying it.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Great movie. Well deserving of it's 25 award wins and 12 nominations. It's interesting how the corporate mainstream media succeeded in largely trashing the movie, in spite of it's wide acclaim and praise from the majority of film critics.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    CBC is airing this on TV right now.

    Looking back at this movie, it is astonishing how accurate and revealing it was/is.

    It really solidifies how much of a farce the Iraq war really is.

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6387831398516462334&q=fahrenheit+9%2F11&total=315&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

    Bush's hopeless failure as a president summed up in a couple hours.

    Brutal.

    Michael totally nailed it.

    It took guts to put this movie out at the time that he did, it was needed with all the groundswell behind the war at the time. I was in London when it premiered and I can remember the enthuiasm we all felt upon it's release in England.

    My musician freind Michael Franti had just returned from Iraq on a peace tour of Baghdad and wrote some beautiful powerful songs and filmed a documentary ("I Know I'm Not Alone") on what he saw there. It wasn't pretty.

    Peace
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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Did he just use the words "accurate" and "revealing" in the same breath as Michael Moore? Just checking.
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    I was flipping back and forth from the movie last night. One of, if not, the highlight is when he is asking the senators to sign their children up. Spineless, fucking cowards they were.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    even flow? wrote:
    I was flipping back and forth from the movie last night. One of, if not, the highlight is when he is asking the senators to sign their children up. Spineless, fucking cowards they were.

    yeah, damn those senators for not signing up their kids who are 18 and can make their own decisions. I know where you're going with this and the point is taken, but going about it like that doesn't help the cause.
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    chopitdown wrote:
    yeah, damn those senators for not signing up their kids who are 18 and can make their own decisions. I know where you're going with this and the point is taken, but going about it like that doesn't help the cause.


    There is more then one point. Such as the senators actually looking over the same bullshit pictures that we saw on the news and believing them to be true. They knew what was going on.

    Second: Moore was pointing out that the rich would not enlist and probably be the first to wave their white flags, grow their beards and pull out the praying mats if and when you ever got invaded.

    Funny you say they are 18 and can make their own decisions which I agree with. But not one stepped up to the plate with a smug look to claim that. Run, run, run and send the lessers to the slaughter.

    Kind of like the senators putting on their protective jackets the other day when they were fired upon in Iraq. Where were those for the boys and girls sent over there to protect your valueable way of life.

    For the most part the only people who seem to harp on Moore are the same people who like war from this side of the ocean.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    even flow? wrote:
    I was flipping back and forth from the movie last night. One of, if not, the highlight is when he is asking the senators to sign their children up. Spineless, fucking cowards they were.


    absolutely
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    even flow? wrote:

    For the most part the only people who seem to harp on Moore are the same people who like war from this side of the ocean.

    you are correct
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    chopitdown wrote:
    yeah, damn those senators for not signing up their kids who are 18 and can make their own decisions. I know where you're going with this and the point is taken, but going about it like that doesn't help the cause.


    if this is the "epic struggle of our time between good and evil"

    you would think that more politicians would push their kids to enlist... like the bush girls.

    or perhaps that is all just a lie, and they fucking know it. just like any body else with a brain knows it is bullshit
  • Mantra Slider
    Mantra Slider Posts: 35
    as good as it was, the best movie about the war is the one currently playing in the US cinemas, "No End In Sight"
    http://noendinsightmovie.com/

    Non partisan, factual, and devastating.
    Not to be missed.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Did he just use the words "accurate" and "revealing" in the same breath as Michael Moore? Just checking.

    lol sad....(you are)
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Mantra Slider wrote:
    as good as it was, the best movie about the war is the one currently playing in the US cinemas, "No End In Sight"
    http://noendinsightmovie.com/

    Non partisan, factual, and devastating.
    Not to be missed.
    thanks for heads up.....will see this weekend.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    lol sad....(you are)
    it really is sad....actually more than that scrary...just tells you how easy it is for big brother to get into peoples minds....we are such simple mamals.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    my2hands wrote:
    if this is the "epic struggle of our time between good and evil"

    you would think that more politicians would push their kids to enlist... like the bush girls.

    or perhaps that is all just a lie, and they fucking know it. just like any body else with a brain knows it is bullshit
    not only that buts its the central front on terrorism...who wouldn't want to end terrorism....we should all join...oh I'm too old....damn.
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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    I watched this in Uber-conservative Plano, Tx. The theater was packed and I remember feeling a bit of promise that people will at least open their eyes a bit to Iraq and see what really was going on. Especially right at the end, when Bush was bumbling the "fool me twice, once shame on me" line and a guy shouted what an idiot.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Let us not forget...Eddie and the boys knew about this farce before we invaded as well....just listen to a few boots prior to invasion. Toronto comes to mind........."Lets do a survey...ah like they do in the states...ah ah ah yea ah ah well they probably do them here tooo" ...good stuff.
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    lol sad....(you are)
    Roland, I'm sure you saw Bowling For Columbine. Do you think Moore gave an accurate picture of healthcare in Canada? If not, then there are only two explanations; 1. he lied on purpose, or 2. he's too stupid to get it right. You choose.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    surferdude wrote:
    Roland, I'm sure you saw Blowing For Columbine. Do you think Moore gave an accurate picture of healthcare in Canada? If not, then there are only two explanations; 1. he lied on purpose, or 2. he's too stupid to get it right. You choose.
    suggest you go see these movies prior to being critical of them.

    It's "Bowling for Columbine" not blowing....only Bush is blowing...hot air....Bowling is about Amerikins fetish with guns.
    "Sicko" was about healthcare.

    Once you actually watch his movies..you'll see the message is correct...is he skewed, sure....but the message is clear and accurate.

    To blast Moore with such a wide brush is acting ignorant....he cares for this country and is attempting to stand up against governement....God Bless Michael Moore.
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    callen wrote:
    suggest you go see these movies prior to being critical of them.

    It's "Bowling for Columbine" not blowing....only Bush is blowing...hot air....Bowling is about Amerikins fetish with guns.
    "Sicko" was about healthcare.

    Once you actually watch his movies..you'll see the message is correct...is he skewed, sure....but the message is clear and accurate.

    To blast Moore with such a wide brush is acting ignorant....he cares for this country and is attempting to stand up against governement....God Bless Michael Moore.
    Relax, it ws a typo.

    I watched Bowling For Columbine and Moore was factually wrong about healthcare in Canada. There's only two explanations for it; he lied on purpose or he's too stupid to get it right. You choose.

    People pick on Moore's ability to tell the truth because he has problems with the truth. His movies would be more powerful if he didn't resort to lies to make his points. Once he starts using lies to make his points it becomes pure propaganda. My life is too full to sit through another 90 minutes of propaganda from Moore or anyone else.

    I also have to wonder what your understanding of Canada's healthcare system is to conclude that Moore was only skewed in his presentation of lies.
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