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  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    acoustic guy wrote:
    1) I don't like all the taxes.
    2) I don't like all the goverment programs for minorities. I think they need to be much more strict when giving them everything for free. In Atlantic City I see people abuse the system everyday with goverment housing etc... It make me sick that they don't try to better themselves, instead they rely on people to help them.
    3) I don't like all the breaks many of the far left judges in the country give to violent offenders.
    4) I don't like that the far lefters make problems with Christmas trees in the town square or how they want to take out "One nation, under God" or "I god we trust".
    Things like that to start.
    5) I do believe in pro-choice.
    6) I do believe that gays should be able to marry whoever the hell they want.
    1) 1/3 of which is going straight to Universal Health Care, and I think that's better spending than anything the Reps have done the last 8-years.
    2) What makes you think that ONLY minorities benefit from these fundings? Your statement is a bit close-minded, where I live, it's actually more poor whites who abuse these freebies. Maybe your local officials aren't doing enough with programs that help these people?
    3) don't know what you mean by that.
    4,5,6) Why are these issues even in your consideration when the economy and the Iraq/War on Terrorism is by far more significant right now. I want these these sorted out right now.

    I'm voting for Obama strictly because of the economic factor, foreign/War policies, and healthcare. Clearly, anything Obama offers is better than the the same old of last 8-years in my opinion.
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Im a Dem that's for Christmas and guns and Ron Paul.
    It's confusing sometimes so I just have to separate the emotional issues from those issues that more encompassing benefits.

    Right now I want to stop paying for wars and use that money to benefit people needing health care that can't afford insurance and $500 prescriptions every month.
    the Minions
  • QuestionAuthority
    QuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    acoustic guy wrote:
    But the judges who are from the far left are doing things that I cant understand like giving second chances to child molesters.
    And the people who are making the big deal about the god and holiday situations are all far lefters.

    That paint brush you use is pretty broad..

    Liberal judges let child molesters second chances? HUH?

    I can paint with a broad paintbrush too.. because there is also a conservative judge in my area that gives child molesters and rapists a slap on the hand.. so things happen ALL over the country.. you cannot blame the political affiliation in bad judges.

    Also, what democrats exactly are making a "big deal about the god and holiday situations"?
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,887
    A few things I like about Obama not mentioned are

    open dialogue with our enemies. Nothing constructive can happen if there isnt a discussion.

    Great plans for advancing our nation's education, including scrapping that terrible idea: 'no child left behind act'

    Federal funding for science and research

    He has better goals for the environment.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    all i know is that im not voting for McCain...
  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Just don't vote at all then!!
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    acoustic guy wrote:
    I don't like all the taxes.

    Based on this tax proposal breakdown from the Washington Post, it looks like Obama is going to lower taxes overall and the end result won't be too different from McCain's proposal.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html
    acoustic guy wrote:
    I don't like all the breaks many of the far left judges in the country give to violent offenders.
    I don't like that the far lefters make problems with Christmas trees in the town square or how they want to take out "One nation, under God" or "I god we trust".

    To me, these seem like local issues. So they may prompt you to not vote Democrat locally, but, unlike many more important things, I don't believe they're issues that will be decided by this presidential election. For instance, I don't think electing Obama brings any danger of "One nation, under God" being taken out of the pledge. I think there are far more dire consequences of electing McCain/Palin though.
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    100 Pacer wrote:
    vote for OBAMA and if he's elected and you're not satisfied with his performance at the end of his 1st term i'll send you a '98 PJ poster,...

    :D


    SWEET, I'm so voting for OBAMA!! ;)
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    cutback wrote:
    vote libertarian....
    or for me. big grass roots movement going to get me elected, and as president I would do the following things.

    First declare an official apology to all the countries the US empire has stepped on.
    Then I would pay reparations for all the damage these wars have caused, food for Afghani children, schools for Iraqi kids, hospitals for all. WE could even bid it out to Haliburton, and if they fuck up we can send them packing.
    Then I would end the funding of these brutal terror states like Colombia, ISrael, Turkey, PAkistan. I would pull forces out of Mecca, ISlams holiest site. I would negotiate, not with bombs and war but with bilateral talks to any country where there is conflict.
    Then I would eliminate merc forces like Blackwater and Aegis, these terrorists have no morals, and kill random civilians for sport. I"ve seen some prety sick videos about that.
    Then I would give as much power as I could to majority, fix the media, put it back in the hands of the people.
    I would hold corporations accountable for their actions, perhaps a police force designed to watch them.
    I would cut the defense budget by half, using the trillions of dollars to save SS and eduction within the country. Lobbyists will be buned at the stake. I would free all non violent drug offenders in prision, freeing millions that really only wanted to get stoned. sand I would teach the plice they are public SERVANTS, not the strong arm of the state. They serve us, we don't bow to them.

    By then I would be assassinated. Fuck it, its a small price to pay for freedom..
  • PJTEXAS
    PJTEXAS Texas Posts: 222
    polaris wrote:
    vote independent!


    If you vote independent, you vote will only help McCain. There's are so many reasons to vote for Obama, but there are so many reasons NOT to vote for McCain. let's just suppose McCain wins. What if he dies 1 year into it? It's very possible that someone, anyone that has had cancer 4 different times and someone who hasn't released his medical record, very well could die within 4 years.

    Ask any cancer specialist what the probablity that some with a skin cancer will get cancer again. It's very high. If that doesn't age will. I am not trying to mean here but these are very strong possibilties here.
    "Love ain't love until you give it up." - Amongst The Waves
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    PJTEXAS wrote:
    If you vote independent, you vote will only help McCain. There's are so many reasons to vote for Obama, but there are so many reasons NOT to vote for McCain. let's just suppose McCain wins. What if he dies 1 year into it? It's very possible that someone, anyone that has had cancer 4 different times and someone who hasn't released his medical record, very well could die within 4 years.

    Ask any cancer specialist what the probablity that some with a skin cancer will get cancer again. It's very high. If that doesn't age will. I am not trying to mean here but these are very strong possibilties here.
    yeah and when the decision is Palin vs Obama I think people would rather see Obama in there. THe Hockey mom is out of her league.
  • youngster
    youngster Boston Posts: 6,576
    acoustic guy wrote:
    WHo would that vote be for?

    Ralph Nader would be a good choice.
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

    9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
    5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
    8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
    EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
  • youngster
    youngster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Quoting Bill Maher here:


    "Sarah Palin is just George Bush in drag"
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

    9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
    5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
    8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
    EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    The biggest problem now is the economy. Pick the guy that you think can handle that the best. I don't think McCain is that guy personally. I don't believe in the death penalty, but Obama supports it certain cases, so this is an area I disagree with him, but I think he'll do a better job fixing the economy than McCain. You simply have to be pragmatic.
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