** Truth Rising: The 9/11 Chronicles Part I **

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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    PS.
    If you want to scratch your head long and hard,
    watch Improbable Collapse at the 30 minute mark.

    Watch Stephen Jones talk about WTC 1 and the antenna tower.

    That tower was being supported by THE CORE COLUMNS.

    WHY DID IT FALL BEFORE ANY OTHER PART OF THE COLLAPSE WAS VISIBLE ?!?

    If what the government claims happened is true,
    the collapse should start immediately around the impact zone,
    and not from the top of the building at a structure being supported by MASSIVE VERTICAL COLUMNS!

    The only way for that tower to fall first, is if the support from those columns was severed some how!

    Just think about it!
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    dunkman wrote:
    but i will never accept that an elite group of already rich americans would sanction the deaths of many hundreds of people in order to get richer... naive? possibly... but i'm also a realist... and the idea is just fantasy.

    if you are a realist - what does it make us??

    if people are willing to fraud scientific results to put forth bad drugs and food in the open market - how hard is it to see the plausability?
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    dunkman.
    please just watch IMPROBABLE COLLAPSE.

    You don't have to watch ANY other 9/11 movie.
    Just watch that.

    Don't just bury your head in one side of the argument.
    ;)


    tell you what... i will watch it as i find it all totally fascinating.

    love your last line ;):D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    polaris wrote:
    if you are a realist - what does it make us??

    if people are willing to fraud scientific results to put forth bad drugs and food in the open market - how hard is it to see the plausability?

    americans? ;)

    i was just meaning that i am a realist when it comes to the nature of a human being... in so much as i cant comprehend the killing of thousands of people for monetary gain... thats unreal to me... its not within my comprehension as a human being to think thats someone could do that.

    as i said.. i'll watch the footage/movies/etc and (hopefully) make my own mind up on it.

    is there any grassy knolls near tower three? ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    dunkman wrote:
    americans? ;)

    i was just meaning that i am a realist when it comes to the nature of a human being... in so much as i cant comprehend the killing of thousands of people for monetary gain... thats unreal to me... its not within my comprehension as a human being to think thats someone could do that.

    as i said.. i'll watch the footage/movies/etc and (hopefully) make my own mind up on it.

    is there any grassy knolls near tower three? ;)

    well ... american i am not ... :)

    i'm not sure what the term should be - but realist isn't it dude ...

    just look at the entire military defence industry ... their whole world is profiteering from death ... look at the effects of cluster bombs and land mines on children throughout the world - this is realism ... people ARE capable of these actions - to think otherwise is a state of denial ...
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    polaris wrote:
    well ... american i am not ... :)

    i'm not sure what the term should be - but realist isn't it dude ...

    just look at the entire military defence industry ... their whole world is profiteering from death ... look at the effects of cluster bombs and land mines on children throughout the world - this is realism ... people ARE capable of these actions - to think otherwise is a state of denial ...

    Maybe so, but the evidence put forth by 9-11 theorists is not convincing, at least to date. So a firefighter yells about the building coming down? Seriously, that's good evidence? Unless you can read minds, how do you know he said this because he had (cue ominous music here) prior knowledge, as opposed to because he was scared shitless?? And for every person who says there was no way the buildings could have fallen without a controlled demolition, there is someone else who says that they certaintly could have. And, even if there WAS a controlled demolition, how is this good evidence of a conspiracy involving Americans or Isrealis (always these two groups, eh?) ...
    Its all just as full of holes as the official account, if not more so. Like the monkey dude said earlier in the thread, people believe what they want to believe. I guess some people find it easier to sleep at night by believing that their own government did a horrible act of evil on its own populace?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I would think one of his most compelling presentations to date.

    part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SXAstu778

    part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpnS4ZmUKa8&feature=related

    part 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTW5f1sTzJ8&feature=related
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I would think one of his most compelling presentations to date.

    part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SXAstu778

    part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpnS4ZmUKa8&feature=related

    part 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTW5f1sTzJ8&feature=related


    this guy uses the word "They" more then anyone in the history of the planet :rolleyes:
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I would think one of his most compelling presentations to date.

    part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SXAstu778


    that was 9:40 seconds of nothing but ranting... that was part of the compelling presentation? your kidding right?
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I would think one of his most compelling presentations to date.



    part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpnS4ZmUKa8&feature=related


    and that was 9 more minutes of ranting...


    this video is providing nothing but alex jones ranting?


    complete trash so far... maybe the smoking gun evidence is in part 3? :rolleyes:
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    that was 9:40 seconds of nothing but ranting... that was part of the compelling presentation? your kidding right?

    Ranting? He only ever raised his voice once during the entire presentation. I'd say you're off the mark to label that as nonstop ranting. It's Alex Jones.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    and that was 9 more minutes of ranting...


    this video is providing nothing but alex jones ranting?


    complete trash so far... maybe the smoking gun evidence is in part 3? :rolleyes:


    I take it you've never watched Alex Jones before.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    dunkman wrote:
    no its another new one about the 3rd tower.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/

    this 9/11 stuff appears to be your bag baby. so i'm out... i dont know enough about it by a long way... its hugely interesting though.. but i will never accept that an elite group of already rich americans would sanction the deaths of many hundreds of people in order to get richer... naive? possibly... but i'm also a realist... and the idea is just fantasy.

    It's been done already in American History just take a real look into Pearl Harbour. It's named a sacrifice for the greater good. War makes money for the banks that fund them, it's not Congress it's our banking system of the FRB.

    Peace
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    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I take it you've never watched Alex Jones before.


    yes i have... and these videos are a reminder of why i dont pay attention to him... i am going to watch part 3 today... but seriously the first 2 parts are worthless... just alex jones ranting his view... no facts, no nothing... just alex talking to people? that counts as a valuable video nowadays to the truth movement? the way drifing was explaining it i thought it would be actually good?
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I would think one of his most compelling presentations to date.

    part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SXAstu778

    part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpnS4ZmUKa8&feature=related

    part 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTW5f1sTzJ8&feature=related


    are you fucking kidding me? one of the most compelling presentations to date?

    that entire thing was a joke... alex jones spouting off about the new world order and how cops are all assholes and "dont cry" when your daughter goes to jail for 10 years for speeding? where does he get the balls for that trash? i mean seriously? how do intelligent adults take this guy seriously? he is more of a fearmomger then the bush administartion

    10 years for speeding :rolleyes:


    that was pure trash... i want to see the 2 hour movie he is talking about and what drifiting was talking about...
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    my2hands wrote:
    i want to see the 2 hour movie he is talking about and what drifiting was talking about...

    9/11: Truth Rising - THE MOVIE

    :D
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    are you fucking kidding me? one of the most compelling presentations to date?

    that entire thing was a joke... alex jones spouting off about the new world order and how cops are all assholes and "dont cry" when your daughter goes to jail for 10 years for speeding? where does he get the balls for that trash? i mean seriously? how do intelligent adults take this guy seriously? he is more of a fearmomger then the bush administartion

    10 years for speeding :rolleyes:


    that was pure trash... i want to see the 2 hour movie he is talking about and what drifiting was talking about...


    Depends what eyes you're looking through I guess. You think FEMA and NIST were accurate in their representations of 9/11.

    I think 9/11 was a false flag operation.

    It's all explained right here:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032&hl=en
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Depends what eyes you're looking through I guess. You think FEMA and NIST were accurate in their representations of 9/11.

    I think 9/11 was a false flag operation.

    It's all explained right here:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032&hl=en



    yeah yeah yeah.. i have heard it all and seen it all... i know your point of view... dont get me wroing i have my questions, but some people seem to be running with scraps as smokign gun truth


    and i was commenting on that alex jones 30 minute rant you posted. it sucked dude, seriously. he has been saying the same thing for years now, i dont need to see another 30 minute alex joens rant on the nwo, 9/11 and "they"
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    9/11: Truth Rising - THE MOVIE

    :D



    ok, here we go
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    I just really don't like Alex Jones...I'm all about 9/11 Truth and I'm convinced it was at the very least allowed by the U.S. and the towers were demolished. But I have a hard time listening to anything AJ says....I just can't stand him. And I feel pretty informed about 9/11 w/o anything he's said about it. I dunno....maybe I'll give this video a try.

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