Wow, Keith Olberman nails bush with this one!

Posts: 17,117
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072007A.shtml

so, i really used to like him as an anchor on sportscenter back in the day...but now i really like where he is going on MSNBC... i think his show could be improved, but i have found his honest statements the last few years refreshing on cable news... and this is the best of them all, a few minutes long, he rips right into bush and continues to back it up... finally asking him to sign up and go to iraq
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  • Posts: 3,527
    two things:

    1. american public is definitely partly to blame for this mess ... if it wasn't so apathetic and uninterested - maybe there wouldn't be all this suffering

    2. i think both bush and cheney need to be impeached in order for america to gain back any sense of integrity and honour ... right now - the fact that these liars and sell-outs are still in power is reflecting poorly on the american spirit
  • Posts: 17,117
    polaris wrote:
    two things:

    1. american public is definitely partly to blame for this mess ... if it wasn't so apathetic and uninterested - maybe there wouldn't be all this suffering
    heres a question...if you are lied to and believe it, who is to blame? the person telling the lie, or the person believing the lie?
    2. i think both bush and cheney need to be impeached in order for america to gain back any sense of integrity and honour ... right now - the fact that these liars and sell-outs are still in power is reflecting poorly on the american spirit
    i couldnt agree more
  • Posts: 3,527
    my2hands wrote:
    heres a question...if you are lied to and believe it, who is to blame? the person telling the lie, or the person believing the lie?

    if i told you that i slept with jessica alba last nite - would you believe me?? ... the lies they told were so blatant that only people who weren't interested in the truth would fall for them ...

    so, in this particular case - there is obvious blame to the people telling the lies but also to those that bought it ...
  • Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    Keith is quite eloquent when he wants to be.
  • Posts: 6,834
    Well yeah that pretty much sums everything up. I really don't know how Bush and co. sleep at night.
  • Posts: 1,059
    my2hands wrote:
    heres a question...if you are lied to and believe it, who is to blame? the person telling the lie, or the person believing the lie?

    "It takes two people to lie Marge. One to lie and one to listen"
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  • Posts: 24
    i am a big fan of keith's but some how missed this. thanks for posting.
    You had me worried!
    So worried, that this would last...
    But now I'm learning, learning that this will pass...
  • Posts: 63
    my2hands wrote:
    heres a question...if you are lied to and believe it, who is to blame? the person telling the lie, or the person believing the lie?

    Its not as simple as that. Every American is tolerant of a culture steeped in lies. Whenever a question is asked to a politician, he seems to answer a completely different question. Their strategy is to 'answer the question they wish has been asked'. No one ever challenges them on it. We let them do this, so can not act fully innocent.

    Hell, just look at our TV commercials, which are pretty much all lies.

    So you can shirk ressponsibility by passing the buck, but the culture that permits this is our collective creation.

    Politics is a special case, where we willingly choose to believe lies if it serves our political purposes.

    Do liberals hate America? No but its convenient for some to think that.

    Do pro-lifers want to suppress woman's rights? no, I imagine they are disgusted at the killing of unborn children. But its convenient for some to believe that.
  • Posts: 13,066
    Bush is that guy who will drive around for hours lost until he runs out of gas instead of asking for directions or stopping to buy one of those gas station maps.

    In fact he'll stop at all the gas stations but forget to buy gas, ask for directions, or get the damn map.
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  • Posts: 16,260
    I admit his show is entertaining. It'd be nice to see him actually debate someone, because he never brings people on his show that disagree with his viewpoint. Maybe it is not necessary, but I think if you are going to have a non-news news hour (Olbermann/Hardball/O'Reilly) that you should have guests on that disagree with you. Anyway, he can do what he wants, but as an observation it jumped out to me that he has the same 3 guests on every night supporting his view. Maybe that is why the show is somewhat bearable, not a lot of arguing back and forth.
  • Posts: 1,764
    Oberman is a fuck face. I am tired of you whiners about Bush and co. Get real jobs and quit bitching.
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  • Posts: 6,834
    nathanastin wrote:
    Oberman is a fuck face. I am tired of you whiners about Bush and co. Get real jobs and quit bitching.

    Yeah you bloody moaners, why can't you roll over and let Bush fuck you in the arse without bringing up the war and all that death stuff......
  • Posts: 17,117
    nathanastin wrote:
    Oberman is a fuck face. I am tired of you whiners about Bush and co. Get real jobs and quit bitching.

    and you're a teacher? :rolleyes:
  • Posts: 13,066
    nathanastin wrote:
    Oberman is a fuck face. I am tired of you whiners about Bush and co. Get real jobs and quit bitching.

    someone whining about people whining....yeap.

    please stay away from sharp objects if not supervised :p
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Posts: 36
    Shit, I forgot about seeing this clip a few weeks back. Very powerful little speech he gives. I'm usually not on the whole "Impeach the Administration" bandwagon (they'll be gone soon and someone else will come in and continue to fuck the country up just like any good President should be expected to), but if anything could get me there, it would be this.
  • Posts: 193
    Why should Bush have to fight in the war he started?
    He is the son of privelage and sons of the privelaged don't fight wars - they start them.
    "Sean Hannity knows there is no greater threat to America today than Bill Clinton 15 years ago"- Stephen Colbert
  • Posts: 123
    my2hands wrote:
    finally asking him to sign up and go to iraq

    I've been pointing this out for years. That middle-aged men (and occasionally women) get to declare war. And then young people have to fight it
  • Posts: 1,015
    butters wrote:
    Its not as simple as that. Every American is tolerant of a culture steeped in lies. Whenever a question is asked to a politician, he seems to answer a completely different question. Their strategy is to 'answer the question they wish has been asked'. No one ever challenges them on it. We let them do this, so can not act fully innocent.

    Hell, just look at our TV commercials, which are pretty much all lies.

    So you can shirk ressponsibility by passing the buck, but the culture that permits this is our collective creation.

    Politics is a special case, where we willingly choose to believe lies if it serves our political purposes.

    Do liberals hate America? No but its convenient for some to think that.

    Do pro-lifers want to suppress woman's rights? no, I imagine they are disgusted at the killing of unborn children. But its convenient for some to believe that.

    I just read this awesome chapter in a book today that reaffirms your point. It's titled "The American People Can't Be Trusted" by Toby Miller, and it's in a book called Contesting Empire Globalizing Dissent: Cultural Studies after 9/11 (Denzin and Giardina, 2007). Another one by Lawrence Grossberg claims that the American people aren't apathetic just resigned. You can see by all the political talk on here and all around the internet, and in schools that we have a political and invested populace our government, corporate capitalism, and the rise of the church in our society has helped to suppress it unfortunately.
  • Posts: 1,693
    everyone woke up?

    Why is this so hard to do? Does America's Next Top Whatever take precedence over America's last breath!?!?!
    Feels Good Inc.
  • Posts: 1,021
    go keith!
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.

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