You could have had a nobel peace prize winner as a president...

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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    I thought the prize lost all credibility when they gave one to Arafat.
    In all fairness he shared that prize with Shimon Perez and Yitzhak Rabin. And it was for trying to do something related to peace, not like Al's one (which is quite lame actually).
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    You could have had a nobel peace prize winner as a president...


    The US did have a Nobel Peace Prize winner for a president.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter
    Teddy Roosevelt also won one. :D
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  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    Restless Soul wrote:
    You could have had a nobel peace prize winner as a president...

    Who? Yasser Arafat?
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    tybird wrote:
    Teddy Roosevelt also won one. :D


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  • Heineken Helen
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    even flow? wrote:
    Along with Wilson.
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  • Joanne
    Joanne Posts: 98
    810wmb wrote:
    +1000

    He didn't win it for the fucking movie! He won it for working with a UN panel in educating people the role that global climate change has in the effects of wars around the world.

    Jesus, people open up your brains.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,800
    Joanne wrote:
    He didn't win it for the fucking movie! He won it for working with a UN panel in educating people the role that global climate change has in the effects of wars around the world.

    Jesus, people open up your brains.

    Then why didn't the whole panel win it?
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    know1 wrote:
    Then why didn't the whole panel win it?
    Eh... did you READ the article? It's a shared award.
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  • Collin
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    know1 wrote:
    Wow - the Nobel Peace Prize really has lost all credibility and become a joke.

    Exactly, I mean there are Hollywood celebrities who did more for peace than Al Gore.

    I respect what he's doing and all, but I don't see what global warming has to do with peace...
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  • Joanne
    Joanne Posts: 98
    know1 wrote:
    Then why didn't the whole panel win it?

    They worked together on it - my god, get your facts straight before making generalized criticisms.
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  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Restless Soul wrote:
    Why do you say that?

    In theory he could have done a lot more practical measures as president than just produce a movie. lol

    In theory I agree, but in reality he still would've had 9/11 to deal with and everything that came with it -even if we don't go to war in Iraq with Gore as president, it seems likely that the environment would've been put on the back burner given the bigger issues of the day - not to mention the Republican congress that I'm sure would've stonewalled any attempt to hinder industry in the name of the environment...
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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    Joanne wrote:
    They worked together on it - my god, get your facts straight before making generalized criticisms.

    I think the point is that giving the nobel to the whole panel and only the panel would have seemed less ridiculous than sharing it with al gore who makes a very suspect nobel peace prize winner. Whatever his work some people may consider he doesn't deserve himself alone to have his name cited when so many other do as much if not more for peace and/or environment.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,800
    Joanne wrote:
    They worked together on it - my god, get your facts straight before making generalized criticisms.

    You're right. I was wrong about him winning it for the fictional movie he made. Apparently he and the panel for the farce that is the UN won it for pushing that same fictional agenda to others in the world.

    And even if it weren't fiction, I still do not know what it has to do with peace.
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  • stupidcorporatewhore
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    know1 wrote:
    Wow - the Nobel Peace Prize really has lost all credibility and become a joke.

    What does creating a film based on half-truths and hypotheses have to do with Peace?

    assuming the "half truths" you're speaking of is the existance of an impending environmental crisis:

    hmm, do I take the word of about 100 of the smartest scientists on the planet?

    or some yahoo on a message board who ALWAYS seems to take the contrary stance to progressive stance?

    If you disagree with al or not on whether we are on the brink of extinction, that's one thing.

    dismissing him completely is a mistake. It just makes you look small.
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    know1 wrote:
    You're right. I was wrong about him winning it for the fictional movie he made. Apparently he and the panel for the farce that is the UN won it for pushing that same fictional agenda to others in the world.

    And even if it weren't fiction, I still do not know what it has to do with peace.


    One of the major causes of the Darfur conflict is the fact that there is a drought, which means less water and less good farmland. People are fighting over both. I would say that is pretty good indication that climate change leads to war. In turn I would say that reasearching a ways to understand climate change, is a good way to prevent future wars.
  • chromiam
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    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    One of the major causes of the Darfur conflict is the fact that there is a drought, which means less water and less good farmland. People are fighting over both. I would say that is pretty good indication that climate change leads to war. In turn I would say that reasearching a ways to understand climate change, is a good way to prevent future wars.

    But if climate change is a natural occurance (Ice Ages, warm cycles) then how do you stop nature from doing what it has done for millions of years???

    Gore wouldn't have won the NPP if he was president, he wouldn't have been able to focus all that time on his environmental causes.
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  • Restless Soul
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    DeLukin wrote:
    In theory I agree, but in reality he still would've had 9/11 to deal with and everything that came with it -even if we don't go to war in Iraq with Gore as president, it seems likely that the environment would've been put on the back burner given the bigger issues of the day - not to mention the Republican congress that I'm sure would've stonewalled any attempt to hinder industry in the name of the environment...

    Maybe so but there are still measures he could have put in place as they came up, such as Kyoto. His film said that the US is the largest causer of the problem of climate change so at least he would have had an awareness of that and worked things in place, hopefully, despite war issues, congress etc.
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  • know1
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    stupidcorporatewhore wrote:
    assuming the "half truths" you're speaking of is the existance of an impending environmental crisis:

    hmm, do I take the word of about 100 of the smartest scientists on the planet?

    or some yahoo on a message board who ALWAYS seems to take the contrary stance to progressive stance?

    If you disagree with al or not on whether we are on the brink of extinction, that's one thing.

    dismissing him completely is a mistake. It just makes you look small.

    I didn't dismiss him completely. That's why I said "half truths". If I'd dismissed him completely, I'd have said complete lies! ;)

    Love it when people put "progressive" in front of the view that they happen to hold. Remember that's an opinion. I've got some labels I could apply. I just take the contrary stance because I believe the other side.
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  • know1
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    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    One of the major causes of the Darfur conflict is the fact that there is a drought, which means less water and less good farmland. People are fighting over both. I would say that is pretty good indication that climate change leads to war. In turn I would say that reasearching a ways to understand climate change, is a good way to prevent future wars.

    I thought droughts have always taken place.
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  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    know1 wrote:
    And even if it weren't fiction, I still do not know what it has to do with peace.

    The pentagon does:

    Military Sharpens Focus on Climate Change
    A Decline in Resources Is Projected to Cause Increasing Instability Overseas

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/14/AR2007041401209.html

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