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You could have had a nobel peace prize winner as a president...

Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
edited October 2007 in A Moving Train
instead you got someone famous for his bushisms...lol


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7041082.stm

Well done Al Gore!
"We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan
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  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    ah who wants that Lefty Peace Nic prize anyway. The world has changed since September 11th. We will make those terrorists pay even if we have to end human existance on earth.
  • Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
    Abuskedti wrote:
    ah who wants that Lefty Peace Nic prize anyway. The world has changed since September 11th. We will make those terrorists pay even if we have to end human existance on earth.


    Makes you wonder who the terrorists really are though!
    "We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan
    ---
    London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
    London, Wembley, 1996
    London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
    London, O2, 18 August 2009
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
    Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
    London, O2, 18 June 2018
    London, O2, 17 July 2018
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 09 June 2019
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 10 June 2019



  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    He wouldn't have had the Nobel Peace Prize if he was president...
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    a joke all the way around
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
    DeLukin wrote:
    He wouldn't have had the Nobel Peace Prize if he was president...

    Why do you say that?

    I think he could have implemented a lot of beneficial policies that would have helped deal with environmental issues rather than hinder things. He could have stopped the drilling in Alaska; he could have signed up to the Kyoto treaty; he could have implemented policies to reduce the US's dependence on natural fuel sources and maybe worked with the car manufacturers to make US-produced cars more environmentally safer.

    In theory he could have done a lot more practical measures as president than just produce a movie. lol
    "We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan
    ---
    London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
    London, Wembley, 1996
    London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
    London, O2, 18 August 2009
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
    Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
    London, O2, 18 June 2018
    London, O2, 17 July 2018
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 09 June 2019
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 10 June 2019



  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    i'm a close personal friend of al.
    d'oh!!!!!!

    http://www.myspace.com/brain_of_c
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Wow - the Nobel Peace Prize really has lost all credibility and become a joke.

    What does creating a film based on half-truths and hypotheses have to do with Peace?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    You could have had a nobel peace prize winner as a president...


    The US did have a Nobel Peace Prize winner for a president.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    know1 wrote:
    Wow - the Nobel Peace Prize really has lost all credibility and become a joke.

    What does creating a film based on half-truths and hypotheses have to do with Peace?


    I hate to admit it, but that was my first thought when I heard the story in the car today. Well the Nobel PP part of your comment.
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  • Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
    know1 wrote:
    Wow - the Nobel Peace Prize really has lost all credibility and become a joke.

    What does creating a film based on half-truths and hypotheses have to do with Peace?


    First of all, "half-truths and hypotheses" is just your opinion.

    Secondly, highlighting the environmental problems the world is facing is a form of peace work - it's for the benefit of the planet and everyone in it. How is that not peace? It's not that hard to see, y'know :)

    And, having just seen this film last week for the first time, I applaud it's positive stance towards action. It makes it clear that there are things people can do now which will help stop the unfortunate trajectory the planet it on right now. This is a form of peace work, as it's giving people the power of information and knowledge to help solve the problems. The fact that the film has had such a high profile is also beneficial as it raised awareness significantly as to what the problems are and how it can be solved. A

    fter that I guess it's up to all of us to act on what needs to be done.
    "We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan
    ---
    London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
    London, Wembley, 1996
    London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
    London, O2, 18 August 2009
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
    Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
    London, O2, 18 June 2018
    London, O2, 17 July 2018
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 09 June 2019
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 10 June 2019



  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    know1 wrote:
    Wow - the Nobel Peace Prize really has lost all credibility and become a joke.

    What does creating a film based on half-truths and hypotheses have to do with Peace?


    +1000
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    You could have had a nobel peace prize winner as a president...


    The US did have a Nobel Peace Prize winner for a president.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter


    oK well my bad, lol!

    But to be honest you could have had one NOW, who would in theory have done some good things for the planet, as opposed to a dumb warmonger.
    "We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan
    ---
    London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
    London, Wembley, 1996
    London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
    London, O2, 18 August 2009
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
    Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
    London, O2, 18 June 2018
    London, O2, 17 July 2018
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 09 June 2019
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 10 June 2019



  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Restless Soul wrote:
    Why do you say that?

    I think he could have implemented a lot of beneficial policies that would have helped deal with environmental issues rather than hinder things. He could have stopped the drilling in Alaska; he could have signed up to the Kyoto treaty; he could have implemented policies to reduce the US's dependence on natural fuel sources and maybe worked with the car manufacturers to make US-produced cars more environmentally safer.

    In theory he could have done a lot more practical measures as president than just produce a movie. lol
    were he president, he would have had different motives to do things differently (you really need to change laws over there regarding how much corporate donations politicians can receive and how involved in corporations they can be). He could well still have a bigger plan though. Is he quite popular now cos of all this stuff? Maybe not in the race coming up but the one behind when many of the people who like him now will be at the age where they'll actually BOTHER to vote.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Restless Soul wrote:
    First of all, "half-truths and hypotheses" is just your opinion.

    I agree
    Restless Soul wrote:
    Secondly, highlighting the environmental problems the world is facing is a form of peace work - it's for the benefit of the planet and everyone in it. How is that not peace? It's not that hard to see, y'know :)

    And, having just seen this film last week for the first time, I applaud it's positive stance towards action. It makes it clear that there are things people can do now which will help stop the unfortunate trajectory the planet it on right now. This is a form of peace work, as it's giving people the power of information and knowledge to help solve the problems. The fact that the film has had such a high profile is also beneficial as it raised awareness significantly as to what the problems are and how it can be solved. A

    fter that I guess it's up to all of us to act on what needs to be done.

    The rest of this is your opinion.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    http://www.nobelprizes.com/nobel/peace/peace.html

    past winners, fun read.
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  • Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
    know1 wrote:
    I agree



    The rest of this is your opinion.

    Hey I was just telling you the connection, since you couldn't see it. :)
    "We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan
    ---
    London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
    London, Wembley, 1996
    London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
    London, O2, 18 August 2009
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
    Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
    London, O2, 18 June 2018
    London, O2, 17 July 2018
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 09 June 2019
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 10 June 2019



  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    know1 wrote:
    Wow - the Nobel Peace Prize really has lost all credibility and become a joke.

    What does creating a film based on half-truths and hypotheses have to do with Peace?


    I thought the prize lost all credibility when they gave one to Arafat.
  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    you really need to change laws over there regarding how much corporate donations politicians can receive and how involved in corporations they can be

    This is bang on the money.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    know1 wrote:
    Wow - the Nobel Peace Prize really has lost all credibility and become a joke.

    What does creating a film based on half-truths and hypotheses have to do with Peace?

    Theres a few people on that list who don't desrve the nobel peace prize, but Al Gore is not really high on the list of people who didn't deserve it.

    So in that sense it has been a joke for a good few years now.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    http://www.nobelprizes.com/nobel/peace/peace.html

    past winners, fun read.
    and sad too... to read about aung san suu kyi, Tenzin Gyatso, Arafat/Peres/Rabin, physicians for the prevention of nuclear war... and so many others whose apparent immense efforts towards peace at the time have all but been lost :(
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    I thought the prize lost all credibility when they gave one to Arafat.
    In all fairness he shared that prize with Shimon Perez and Yitzhak Rabin. And it was for trying to do something related to peace, not like Al's one (which is quite lame actually).
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    You could have had a nobel peace prize winner as a president...


    The US did have a Nobel Peace Prize winner for a president.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter
    Teddy Roosevelt also won one. :D
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  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    Restless Soul wrote:
    You could have had a nobel peace prize winner as a president...

    Who? Yasser Arafat?
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    tybird wrote:
    Teddy Roosevelt also won one. :D


    Along with Wilson.
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  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    even flow? wrote:
    Along with Wilson.
    :eek: the football? Awwwww :)
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • JoanneJoanne Posts: 98
    810wmb wrote:
    +1000

    He didn't win it for the fucking movie! He won it for working with a UN panel in educating people the role that global climate change has in the effects of wars around the world.

    Jesus, people open up your brains.
    We're still making records for people who listen to it all the way through, eyes closed, in that space.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Joanne wrote:
    He didn't win it for the fucking movie! He won it for working with a UN panel in educating people the role that global climate change has in the effects of wars around the world.

    Jesus, people open up your brains.

    Then why didn't the whole panel win it?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    know1 wrote:
    Then why didn't the whole panel win it?
    Eh... did you READ the article? It's a shared award.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    know1 wrote:
    Wow - the Nobel Peace Prize really has lost all credibility and become a joke.

    Exactly, I mean there are Hollywood celebrities who did more for peace than Al Gore.

    I respect what he's doing and all, but I don't see what global warming has to do with peace...
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  • JoanneJoanne Posts: 98
    know1 wrote:
    Then why didn't the whole panel win it?

    They worked together on it - my god, get your facts straight before making generalized criticisms.
    We're still making records for people who listen to it all the way through, eyes closed, in that space.
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