Lunatics kill NUN

miller8966
miller8966 Posts: 1,450
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
why cant this religion be debated? These people cant take any type of criticism to their faith..

Gunmen have shot dead a 65-year-old Italian nun and her bodyguard at a hospital in Somali capital, Mogadishu.

The attackers shot the nun three times in the back at the women and children's hospital in the south of the city before fleeing the scene.

It is unclear if the shooting is connected with strong criticism by a radical Somali cleric about the Pope's recent comments on Islam.

Sister Leonella had worked in Africa for nearly 40 years, her family said.

She was taken into surgery in the Austrian-funded SOS Hospital, in Huriwa district, but she died from her injuries.

A fluent Somali-speaker, the nun was one of the longest-serving foreign members of the Roman Catholic Church in Somalia, a former Italian colony.

A Vatican spokesman said the killing was "a horrible act" which he hoped would remain isolated.

Yusuf Mohamed Siad, security chief for the Union of Islamic courts (UIC) which controls Mogadishu, said two people had been arrested.

Muslim anger

Pope Benedict XVI inflamed many Muslim communities last week after making comments during a speech in Bavaria.

He quoted a 14th Century Christian emperor as saying the Prophet Muhammad brought the world only evil and inhuman things.

The Pope has since apologised in person, saying his remarks were misunderstood and did not express in any way his personal opinion.

On Friday, hardline cleric Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin told worshippers at his mosque to hunt down and kill whoever offended the Prophet Mohammed.

There has been no effective central government in Somalia since 1991, and although the UIC is credited with bringing some stability to Mogadishu, correspondents say the city is far too dangerous for all but the bravest aid workers to operate in.
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  • B....r....u....t....a.....l that is all I can say in regards to this story....
  • world
    world Posts: 266
    Muslims arent evil or inhuman, and they killed a nun to prove it.
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  • Yes, something is very, very sick in these people.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    They must have an angry gene in them, because they are never happy always protesting, burning and stomping on things.
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  • beemster wrote:
    They must have an angry gene in them, because they are never happy always protesting, burning and stomping on things.
    maybe its because they aren't allowed to drink or have a good time? I'd be pissed too if I couldn't party and had to live in a hot desert and stare at woman in turbins all day..
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    miller8966 wrote:
    why cant this religion be debated? These people cant take any type of criticism to their faith..

    Gunmen have shot dead a 65-year-old Italian nun and her bodyguard at a hospital in Somali capital, Mogadishu.

    The attackers shot the nun three times in the back at the women and children's hospital in the south of the city before fleeing the scene.

    It is unclear if the shooting is connected with strong criticism by a radical Somali cleric about the Pope's recent comments on Islam.

    Sister Leonella had worked in Africa for nearly 40 years, her family said.

    She was taken into surgery in the Austrian-funded SOS Hospital, in Huriwa district, but she died from her injuries.

    A fluent Somali-speaker, the nun was one of the longest-serving foreign members of the Roman Catholic Church in Somalia, a former Italian colony.

    A Vatican spokesman said the killing was "a horrible act" which he hoped would remain isolated.

    Yusuf Mohamed Siad, security chief for the Union of Islamic courts (UIC) which controls Mogadishu, said two people had been arrested.

    Muslim anger

    Pope Benedict XVI inflamed many Muslim communities last week after making comments during a speech in Bavaria.

    He quoted a 14th Century Christian emperor as saying the Prophet Muhammad brought the world only evil and inhuman things.

    The Pope has since apologised in person, saying his remarks were misunderstood and did not express in any way his personal opinion.

    On Friday, hardline cleric Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin told worshippers at his mosque to hunt down and kill whoever offended the Prophet Mohammed.

    There has been no effective central government in Somalia since 1991, and although the UIC is credited with bringing some stability to Mogadishu, correspondents say the city is far too dangerous for all but the bravest aid workers to operate in.


    i dont think it was the lunatics...when it happened..they were on the grass
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    miller8966 wrote:
    why cant this religion be debated? These people cant take any type of criticism to their faith...

    Because their religion is the "right" one. Because they are always right. They are always innocent. They are always justified in their actions. Their hate is not hate, rather it is self-defense. T

    No sense in debating with those who are "right" to begin with.


    ....wait for it.....wait for it......here comes The Dance
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    damn.... for one fantastic moment I thought the title was a spelling mistake, and this thread meant all of NIN had been killed...

    you live in hope :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    If you are a nun and you need a body guard, ah, what the fuck are you doing there anyway. I know some people need to spew their crap in a place that they are the minority and hey if that is what you want to do, all the power to ya. But trouble usually finds you. And in this instance it did. Poor lady in the wrong place at the wrong time. Kind of like the island off of Cuba. Just happened to be the wrong race when the inside job went down. And now you have a new home to call your own. At least she will be taken into the lord's house now and is in a much better place then this hell hole. Right, all you religious people??????

    If you dig religion so much. No death, no matter how it happens should shock you. You are living for death and the better place that hasn't been proven to exist awaits you.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    NMyTree wrote:
    Because their religion is the "right" one. Because they are always right. They are always innocent. They are always justified in their actions. Their hate is not hate, rather it is self-defense. T

    No sense in debating with those who are "right" to begin with.


    ....wait for it.....wait for it......here comes The Dance

    The Dancer is here. There religion can be debated and is probably more debated than any other religion.

    The problem is people start generalizing, suddenly Islam is violent, Islam teaches violence... and that's why I dance, my friend, because that is bullshit. Islam is just like any other religion, there are good things about it and bad things about it.

    And I do believe Islam is innocent.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    miller8966 wrote:
    why cant this religion be debated? These people cant take any type of criticism to their faith..

    Gunmen have shot dead a 65-year-old Italian nun and her bodyguard at a hospital in Somali capital, Mogadishu.

    The attackers shot the nun three times in the back at the women and children's hospital in the south of the city before fleeing the scene.

    It is unclear if the shooting is connected with strong criticism by a radical Somali cleric about the Pope's recent comments on Islam.

    Sister Leonella had worked in Africa for nearly 40 years, her family said.

    She was taken into surgery in the Austrian-funded SOS Hospital, in Huriwa district, but she died from her injuries.

    A fluent Somali-speaker, the nun was one of the longest-serving foreign members of the Roman Catholic Church in Somalia, a former Italian colony.

    A Vatican spokesman said the killing was "a horrible act" which he hoped would remain isolated.

    Yusuf Mohamed Siad, security chief for the Union of Islamic courts (UIC) which controls Mogadishu, said two people had been arrested.

    Muslim anger

    Pope Benedict XVI inflamed many Muslim communities last week after making comments during a speech in Bavaria.

    He quoted a 14th Century Christian emperor as saying the Prophet Muhammad brought the world only evil and inhuman things.

    The Pope has since apologised in person, saying his remarks were misunderstood and did not express in any way his personal opinion.

    On Friday, hardline cleric Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin told worshippers at his mosque to hunt down and kill whoever offended the Prophet Mohammed.

    There has been no effective central government in Somalia since 1991, and although the UIC is credited with bringing some stability to Mogadishu, correspondents say the city is far too dangerous for all but the bravest aid workers to operate in.


    this religion cannot be labelled violent because of things like this... after all christians have been slaying folk for hundreds of years because they didnt follow their religious beliefs... does that make all christians violent, or just the twisted followers of their religion..

    its all shite anyway... i thank god i am an aethiest ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Collin wrote:

    The problem is people start generalizing, suddenly Islam is violent, Islam teaches violence... and that's why I dance, my friend, because that is bullshit. Islam is just like any other religion, there are good things about it and bad things about it.

    And I do believe Islam is innocent.


    ....because you fail to identify irony and satire where it exists.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Collin wrote:
    The Dancer is here.

    And I do believe Islam is innocent.

    ...and so The Dancer generalizes. Oh the irony.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    NMyTree wrote:
    ....because you fail to identify irony and satire where it exists.
    what is that supposed to mean?
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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Collin wrote:
    what is that supposed to mean?

    Exactly. Thank you.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    NMyTree wrote:
    ...and so The Dancer generalizes. Oh the irony.

    How can a religion be guilty, I believe its the people who (mis)interpret that religion that should be held guilty, not a religion.
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    NMyTree wrote:
    Exactly. Thank you.

    No seriously could you explain? My native language isn't English...
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  • Collin wrote:
    No seriously could you explain? My native language isn't English...

    That is horrible. It's sad to think that the smallest groups of all muslims are the ones giving their peaceful religeon a black eye. It's not like the Christians don't have their crazies either. Think of all the doctors who were killed for performing abortions, bombings, Pat Robertson wanting to assassinate Chavez, or Alan Keyes in general.
  • Collin wrote:
    How can a religion be guilty, I believe its the people who (mis)interpret that religion that should be held guilty, not a religion.

    I can basically agree with this statement, although it is difficult for most people to separate religion and its followers. Organized religion is a human creation, and when people kill, stomp, bomb, blast, and mutilitate in its name, its hard for the religion itself not to become tarnished. Islam's good name is being destroyed by its asshole followers, regardless of how benign the actual philosophy may be.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Collin wrote:
    No seriously could you explain? My native language isn't English...




    What is religion, if it is not the people who represent a religion? And that goes for Christianity and all religions. Human beings created and wrote the religions and their representitive books.

    Just about every religious book whether it be the Bible, Quran...whatever, has plenty of hateful, violent, murderous passages and rules for it's people.

    Again, who wrote these books? Ah, Human Beings.

    I observe The Dancers on here criticizing, slamming and berating America, this American Administration, Israel and Jews. They attack viciously.

    Rarely is there an objective, balanced and fair approach to their attacks and accusations. Even more rare is their ability to not generalize

    But when I characterize the very same behavior towards radical Islam and Muslims; The Dancers come out in force to accuse me of generalizations.

    Radical Muslims generalize Westerners/non-believers and so forth; and The Dancers defend, justify and make excuses for their (radical Muslims) every actions. Never is accountability and responsibility demanded and expected of Muslims.

    It's dispicable that anyone can defend and spin this latest behavior by Muslims, in response to the Pope's words. There seems to be no limits or boundries to the Muslim-apologist mindset; when it applies to Muslims.

    The Dancers are very sensitive and overly-protective of anyone daring to criticize Muslims and Islam, in general.

    Don't get me wrong, embedded in my satire there are some very honest and true opinions and feeling towards radical Islam.....radical Muslims and all that they stand for. The very same honest and true opinions and feelings I have for anyone or any group of people who attempt to manipulate, oppress and through verbal threats, contrived manipulation and violent action seek to destroy and eliminate the rights of others who do not think and live alike.

    And that includes this american administration and any other group of people who fall into this catagory.

    In another thread I made some very harsh and nasty commentrs regarding Islam and Muslims; by design. Not unlike much of the comments being made all over the world by ignorant, illiterate Muslims and their so-called "Leaders"; although my coments excluded any threats of violence and calls for death. Yet, they became very offended and disturbed by what I said.

    I suggest that if The Dancers can get offended or disturbed over what I said, but continue to defend the actions and words of radical Muslims from all over the world; then, there is something seriously wrong with their mindset and I am the one truely disturbed by this behavior.

    When these words and actions by Muslims can be defended, but my words are considered offensive; it certainly exposes a glaring double-standard, hypocrisy and unobjective position in this subject matter.

    The irony is staggering. The precedent, unimaginable.