Nine who gang raped girl, 10, escape jail
Scubascott
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This is all kinds of fucked
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,2225389,00.html
Furious Aboriginal leaders call for judge to step down
· Anger at claim that victim 'probably agreed' to sex
Barbara McMahon in Sydney
Tuesday December 11, 2007
The Guardian
A judge in Australia was facing calls to step down yesterday after she failed to jail nine males who admitted gang-raping a 10-year-old girl in an Aboriginal community in 2005, saying the victim "probably agreed" to have sex with them.
Sarah Bradley, a Cairns-based district court judge, gave suspended sentences and probation orders to three adults, aged 17 to 26, one of whom was a repeat sex offender, and six juveniles, aged 14 to 16.
The lenient sentencing was greeted with outrage and disbelief across Australia, which has been wrestling with the problem of child sex abuse in indigenous communities after a report, Little Children Are Sacred, earlier this year said the problem was widespread and endemic.
Kevin Rudd, the new Labor prime minister, said he was "appalled and disgusted" by the details of the case. Queensland's attorney general, Kerry Shine, will appeal against the judge's decision. Indigenous leaders said it sent a terrible message to vulnerable girls and women living in fear in Australia's indigenous communities.
"If this was a white girl in white suburban Brisbane ... there's no way they would have walked out of court," said a child protection campaigner, Hetty Johnston.
Boni Robertson, an academic, called for the judge to step down while there was an inquiry. "It's undermined everything we have worked for over the last 10 years to get our women justice in this country," she said.
The assault happened in Aurukun on Cape York, which has a history of rioting and drunken violence. Some of the girl's attackers are said to be from prominent families in the area, while she comes from a less privileged background.
News of the sentences, handed out in October and early November, has already led to simmering tensions within the community. In a recent outbreak of violence, rival gangs fought with sticks and spears.
Bradley's handling of the case was revealed by the Australian newspaper. In passing sentence, she said that she accepted the girl involved "was not forced and ... probably agreed to have sex with all of you but you were taking advantage of a 10-year-old girl and she needs to be protected". The judge reminded the group of nine that it is an offence to have sex with a girl under the age of 16.
Facing allegations that Australia's justice system was failing children, the attorney general met with the director of public prosecutions, Leanne Clare, yesterday to review the case. "I am truly horrified by the circumstances of these offences," Shine said, adding that the law should be consistent in its application among indigenous and white communities.
The deputy opposition leader in Queensland, Mark McArdle, also called for an inquiry. "Children cannot give their consent," he said.
The state premier, Anna Bligh, said all sexual offences sentences arising out of Cape York during the past two years would be reviewed. "The nature of the sentences in this case are so far from community expectations I have to say I am alarmed, and I am not prepared to write this off as an unusual one-off case," she said.
Bligh added that the girl, who had been returned to the community after being put in foster care, was once more back in foster care, receiving medical and other treatment, and is reportedly doing well.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,2225389,00.html
Furious Aboriginal leaders call for judge to step down
· Anger at claim that victim 'probably agreed' to sex
Barbara McMahon in Sydney
Tuesday December 11, 2007
The Guardian
A judge in Australia was facing calls to step down yesterday after she failed to jail nine males who admitted gang-raping a 10-year-old girl in an Aboriginal community in 2005, saying the victim "probably agreed" to have sex with them.
Sarah Bradley, a Cairns-based district court judge, gave suspended sentences and probation orders to three adults, aged 17 to 26, one of whom was a repeat sex offender, and six juveniles, aged 14 to 16.
The lenient sentencing was greeted with outrage and disbelief across Australia, which has been wrestling with the problem of child sex abuse in indigenous communities after a report, Little Children Are Sacred, earlier this year said the problem was widespread and endemic.
Kevin Rudd, the new Labor prime minister, said he was "appalled and disgusted" by the details of the case. Queensland's attorney general, Kerry Shine, will appeal against the judge's decision. Indigenous leaders said it sent a terrible message to vulnerable girls and women living in fear in Australia's indigenous communities.
"If this was a white girl in white suburban Brisbane ... there's no way they would have walked out of court," said a child protection campaigner, Hetty Johnston.
Boni Robertson, an academic, called for the judge to step down while there was an inquiry. "It's undermined everything we have worked for over the last 10 years to get our women justice in this country," she said.
The assault happened in Aurukun on Cape York, which has a history of rioting and drunken violence. Some of the girl's attackers are said to be from prominent families in the area, while she comes from a less privileged background.
News of the sentences, handed out in October and early November, has already led to simmering tensions within the community. In a recent outbreak of violence, rival gangs fought with sticks and spears.
Bradley's handling of the case was revealed by the Australian newspaper. In passing sentence, she said that she accepted the girl involved "was not forced and ... probably agreed to have sex with all of you but you were taking advantage of a 10-year-old girl and she needs to be protected". The judge reminded the group of nine that it is an offence to have sex with a girl under the age of 16.
Facing allegations that Australia's justice system was failing children, the attorney general met with the director of public prosecutions, Leanne Clare, yesterday to review the case. "I am truly horrified by the circumstances of these offences," Shine said, adding that the law should be consistent in its application among indigenous and white communities.
The deputy opposition leader in Queensland, Mark McArdle, also called for an inquiry. "Children cannot give their consent," he said.
The state premier, Anna Bligh, said all sexual offences sentences arising out of Cape York during the past two years would be reviewed. "The nature of the sentences in this case are so far from community expectations I have to say I am alarmed, and I am not prepared to write this off as an unusual one-off case," she said.
Bligh added that the girl, who had been returned to the community after being put in foster care, was once more back in foster care, receiving medical and other treatment, and is reportedly doing well.
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Scubascott wrote:This is all kinds of fucked
That sums it up pretty well.THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!
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fucking hell... I've heard of lenient sentencing but that's just fucking sick. HOW????Scubascott wrote:This is all kinds of fucked
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,2225389,00.html
Furious Aboriginal leaders call for judge to step down
· Anger at claim that victim 'probably agreed' to sex
Barbara McMahon in Sydney
Tuesday December 11, 2007
The Guardian
A judge in Australia was facing calls to step down yesterday after she failed to jail nine males who admitted gang-raping a 10-year-old girl in an Aboriginal community in 2005, saying the victim "probably agreed" to have sex with them.
Sarah Bradley, a Cairns-based district court judge, gave suspended sentences and probation orders to three adults, aged 17 to 26, one of whom was a repeat sex offender, and six juveniles, aged 14 to 16.The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
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Well shit, looks like rape victims rights are not only abused in Saudi Arabia.0
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Someone must have gotten paid off or blackmailed....something isn't right here.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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The defence argued that the 10 year old was a willing participate. I've never heard of something so fucked. A 10 year old knows whats best for her when it comes to sex. Yeah right!!! On top of that she was removed from the same community when she was 7 because she was raped only to be put back there when she was 10 to have it happen again!!!!I can't go the library anymore, everyone STINKS!!0
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Austicman wrote:The defence argued that the 10 year old was a willing participate.
Actually, so did the prosecution. The lead prosecutor has been stood down pending an inquiry. It appears that he was of the mentality that it was not so serious and that she was a willing participant.0 -
only in america.
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I hate to admit that it happened in my country. I think this is a bloody good point. . . .
"If this was a white girl in white suburban Brisbane ... there's no way they would have walked out of court," said a child protection campaigner, Hetty JohnstonIt doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!
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WTF?ClimberInOz wrote:Actually, so did the prosecution. The lead prosecutor has been stood down pending an inquiry. It appears that he was of the mentality that it was not so serious and that she was a willing participant.
That is insane.
9 males in their teens and 20's?? What is wrong with these people???
It sounds like that poor girl didn't have a chance when ever her defense atty was saying she offered up consent.Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
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Scubascott wrote:This is all kinds of fucked
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,2225389,00.html
Furious Aboriginal leaders call for judge to step down
· Anger at claim that victim 'probably agreed' to sex
Barbara McMahon in Sydney
Tuesday December 11, 2007
The Guardian
A judge in Australia was facing calls to step down yesterday after she failed to jail nine males who admitted gang-raping a 10-year-old girl in an Aboriginal community in 2005, saying the victim "probably agreed" to have sex with them.
Sarah Bradley, a Cairns-based district court judge, gave suspended sentences and probation orders to three adults, aged 17 to 26, one of whom was a repeat sex offender, and six juveniles, aged 14 to 16.
The lenient sentencing was greeted with outrage and disbelief across Australia, which has been wrestling with the problem of child sex abuse in indigenous communities after a report, Little Children Are Sacred, earlier this year said the problem was widespread and endemic.
Kevin Rudd, the new Labor prime minister, said he was "appalled and disgusted" by the details of the case. Queensland's attorney general, Kerry Shine, will appeal against the judge's decision. Indigenous leaders said it sent a terrible message to vulnerable girls and women living in fear in Australia's indigenous communities.
"If this was a white girl in white suburban Brisbane ... there's no way they would have walked out of court," said a child protection campaigner, Hetty Johnston.
Boni Robertson, an academic, called for the judge to step down while there was an inquiry. "It's undermined everything we have worked for over the last 10 years to get our women justice in this country," she said.
The assault happened in Aurukun on Cape York, which has a history of rioting and drunken violence. Some of the girl's attackers are said to be from prominent families in the area, while she comes from a less privileged background.
News of the sentences, handed out in October and early November, has already led to simmering tensions within the community. In a recent outbreak of violence, rival gangs fought with sticks and spears.
Bradley's handling of the case was revealed by the Australian newspaper. In passing sentence, she said that she accepted the girl involved "was not forced and ... probably agreed to have sex with all of you but you were taking advantage of a 10-year-old girl and she needs to be protected". The judge reminded the group of nine that it is an offence to have sex with a girl under the age of 16.
Facing allegations that Australia's justice system was failing children, the attorney general met with the director of public prosecutions, Leanne Clare, yesterday to review the case. "I am truly horrified by the circumstances of these offences," Shine said, adding that the law should be consistent in its application among indigenous and white communities.
The deputy opposition leader in Queensland, Mark McArdle, also called for an inquiry. "Children cannot give their consent," he said.
The state premier, Anna Bligh, said all sexual offences sentences arising out of Cape York during the past two years would be reviewed. "The nature of the sentences in this case are so far from community expectations I have to say I am alarmed, and I am not prepared to write this off as an unusual one-off case," she said.
Bligh added that the girl, who had been returned to the community after being put in foster care, was once more back in foster care, receiving medical and other treatment, and is reportedly doing well.
It´s a shit, shit... And the judge is a woman. I´m not sure if is the worst or not, but is very difficult understand how the mind female can works (or not) in this way. In Brasil, recently, one judge -- woman -- allowed the police transfered one girl teenager to one male cell, because the jail in that city -- Pará´s state -- no have female cells. Can you imagine what happens with that girl? Was one scandal and until the president of the Republic made one protest. What hell that judges has one her/his mind? They dont have childrens?0 -
I think I heard something about thatClara Clareando wrote:It´s a shit, shit... And the judge is a woman. I´m not sure if is the worst or not, but is very difficult understand how the mind female can works (or not) in this way. In Brasil, recently, one judge -- woman -- allowed the police transfered one girl teenager to one male cell, because the jail in that city -- Pará´s state -- doesnt have female cells. Can you imagine what happens whit that girl? Was one scandal and until the president of the Republic made one protest. What hell that judges has one her/his mind? They dont have childrens?
what the fuck's wrong with people? The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you0 -
Scubascott wrote:I hate to admit that it happened in my country. I think this is a bloody good point. . . .
"If this was a white girl in white suburban Brisbane ... there's no way they would have walked out of court," said a child protection campaigner, Hetty Johnston
Makes me think of the woman that was pack raped by a bunch of middle Eastern men in Sydney. They've basically locked them up and thrown away the key(rightly so). But when its an Aboriginal girl they walk free. This cannot be the end of it surely.I can't go the library anymore, everyone STINKS!!0 -
Austicman wrote:Makes me think of the woman that was pack raped by a bunch of middle Eastern men in Sydney. They've basically locked them up and thrown away the key(rightly so). But when its an Aboriginal girl they walk free. This cannot be the end of it surely.
If I remember correctly there was talk of that girl having initally given consent too wasn't there?
Not that it shoud matter in this case. The girl is ten years old. She can't give consent. Maybe they think they are taking cultural sensitivites into account or something. Maybe that argument would fly if she ahd been 14 or 15, but for fuck's sake. A ten year old? Surely that's not acceptable in any culture.It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!
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Scott, do you think now Hetty's on the case that the whole thing is going to be reviewed and the outcome is eventually going to be different anyway?
Because I know the QLD premier was talking about looking at all the judge's cases for the past 2 years the other night. I'm thinking that yes, this as been a massive miscarriage of justice but it seems the wheels are turning to try to rectify it.NOPE!!!
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Jeanie wrote:Scott, do you think now Hetty's on the case that the whole thing is going to be reviewed and the outcome is eventually going to be different anyway?
Because I know the QLD premier was talking about looking at all the judge's cases for the past 2 years the other night. I'm thinking that yes, this as been a massive miscarriage of justice but it seems the wheels are turning to try to rectify it.
I hope so. I haven't kept up the details of this one, but I was shocked when I first heard the story.
I have enough faith in our system to believe that this will be fixed, but the fact that it ever happened in the first place is deeply disturbing.It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!
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Fuck, OK people's, maybe the issue here was that the perpetrtors were Aboriginal, and that is why they got off so lightly, not the victim.
This is clear evidence that there is a totally different set of laws for these people. Might I also point out that some of the screamers here were some of the objectors to Howard's "interference" in these communities.
Also, had that girl been "stolen" and placed with a protective family, instead of being left in teh loving protective care of her own community, this would not have happened.
This is all kinds of fucked up alright.
I think Kevin Rudd should "apologise" to the criminals who did this, for troubling them with a court appearance. That wil make things right. (Sarcasm, just making sure you all got that)
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Scubascott wrote:I hope so. I haven't kept up the details of this one, but I was shocked when I first heard the story.
I have enough faith in our system to believe that this will be fixed, but the fact that it ever happened in the first place is deeply disturbing.
It's becasue lawyers and judges only care about process, they do not care about outcomes. They assume that following process will always produce a good outcome, but this fuck-up proves it does not.Music is not a competetion.0 -
Scubascott wrote:I hope so. I haven't kept up the details of this one, but I was shocked when I first heard the story.
I have enough faith in our system to believe that this will be fixed, but the fact that it ever happened in the first place is deeply disturbing.
Yes I agree. And I've not been keeping up with it either but it does need to be rectified and it should never have been allowed to play out that way in the first place.NOPE!!!
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lucylespian wrote:Also, had that girl been "stolen" and placed with a protective family, instead of being left in teh loving protective care of her own community, this would not have happened.
My understanding is that that is exactly what happened. The girl had been moved away from her own parents into the care of a foster family, and then this happened.
What are you getting at anyway? That all aboriginal people are unfit to raise kids? That we should take them all away and raise them in white suburbia? Great idea. That'll work. Hang on. Didn't someone try that before?. . . .It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!
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