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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    There are people running marathons in their 70's

    quality of life over longevity is just a matter of what you are taught is really important

    ...i.e millions of commercials sculpting your thoughts.

    Mental programming. You are told what to think, do, and eat so certain people can take your money....which is your time...and ultimately....your life.

    Come on Roland. :) People aren't all that stupid. We can think for ourselves.
    If a person's running marathons in their 70s good on them if that's what they want to do, but marathons don't interest me now. And all the dietary advice in the world won't save you if you are genetically predisposed to disease or the "proverbial bus" comes along and takes you out. We all do the best we can when we can. If that equates to quality and longevity for some of us, that's excellent. But it cannot possibly be the story for all of us. No matter how many mung beans we eat, no matter how many bench presses we can do. :)
    NOPE!!!

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  • Trailer
    Trailer Posts: 1,431
    Jeanie wrote:
    And all the dietary advice in the world won't save you if you are genetically predisposed to disease or the "proverbial bus" comes along and takes you out.

    Good point!!
    Jeanie wrote:
    no matter how many bench presses we can do. :)

    Richard: Scram Tommy. Don't give her the weight room thing.
    [Tommy Boy approaches gorgeous girl acting muscular and buff]
    Tommy: Do you know where the weight room is? I'll check it out. :D:cool:
    Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Jeanie wrote:
    Come on Roland. :) People aren't all that stupid. We can think for ourselves.
    If a person's running marathons in their 70s good on them if that's what they want to do, but marathons don't interest me now. And all the dietary advice in the world won't save you if you are genetically predisposed to disease or the "proverbial bus" comes along and takes you out. We all do the best we can when we can. If that equates to quality and longevity for some of us, that's excellent. But it cannot possibly be the story for all of us. No matter how many mung beans we eat, no matter how many bench presses we can do. :)

    As kids we were all hooked into the tube well before objective thought could ever take hold. Mostly why McDonalds has those playlands for the kids. Their food is poison. Fast food is poison to the human body. We would all be dead long before puberty by eating their diet exclusively and taking their word for what they say.

    It's all subjective and subliminal programming playing off the basic human psyche; we all want to lounge around and be lazy, and have our taste buds blown away, and be instantly sexually gratified. These are the basic conditions to evolution that have been an overwhelming success for mankind (thus far).

    It's basic human nature that big corporations have exploited. It's not responsible, however it's profitable, so it all exists effortlessly.

    The reason I know this is that once I started eating clean foods, I no longer craved sugar and junk like a drug after eating every meal.

    I get serious withdrawals from fast food. They engineer their food precisely in labs with teams of scientists to make their food to elicit a drug response in the human brain from just tasting (and smelling) it. Billions are spent to make this a reality, and on purpose.

    We are guinea pigs to big corporations. And they give not even .0002 cents about us and our lives...whether we get sick or not, or ultimately die from their "food".

    That's how I see it. I believe it is accurate. It starts verrry young when we are highly impressionable.

    I am not impervious or special. I fail at it far too often. Being brought up this way from an overweight/obese mother....It's like a lifelong drug addiction, with temptation at almost every street corner.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    As kids we were all hooked into the tube well before objective thought could ever take hold. Mostly why McDonalds has those playlands for the kids. Their food is poison. Fast food is poison to the human body. We would all be dead long before puberty by eating their diet exclusively and taking their word for what they say.

    It's all subjective and subliminal programming playing off the basic human psyche; we all want to lounge around and be lazy, and have our taste buds blown away, and be instantly sexually gratified. These are the basic conditions to evolution that have been an overwhelming success for mankind (thus far).

    It's basic human nature that big corporations have exploited. It's not responsible, however it's profitable, so it all exists effortlessly.

    The reason I know this is that once I started eating clean foods, I no longer craved sugar and junk like a drug after eating every meal.

    I get serious withdrawals from fast food. They engineer their food precisely in labs with teams of scientists to make their food to elicit a drug response in the human brain from just tasting (and smelling) it. Billions are spent to make this a reality, and on purpose.

    We are guinea pigs to big corporations. And they give not even .0002 cents about us and our lives...whether we get sick or not, or ultimately die from their "food".

    That's how I see it. I believe it is accurate. It starts verrry young when we are highly impressionable.

    I am not impervious or special. I fail at it far too often. Being brought up this way from an overweight/obese mother....It's like a lifelong drug addiction, with temptation at almost every street corner.

    Love! :) I wasn't allowed to watch tele as a kid. :) We didn't even have one for a lot of years and then when we did if it wasn't on the ABC at a suitable hour then I couldn't watch it. I wasn't subjected to commercials on tv until I was in my mid to late teens. So their subliminal messages weren't really able to affect my life. As to junk food, well I wasn't allowed to eat that either. We lived a very holistic, whole foods lifestyle from a very early age. I don't think I even ate McDonalds until I was 13 and even then I was only allowed to share a small fries with my brother. We weren't allowed to eat refined sugars or refined flours and certainly nothing with colors or flavors in it. We walked the 45 minutes to school and back everyday or cycled if we were lucky and I was at ballet for at least 20 hours a week by the time I was 12 on top of sport at school and speed skating, and a whole bunch of out of school activities. And I lived less than 100 metres from a McDonald's. I can take or leave the stuff. As I'm quite sure can a lot of other people. I understand what you are saying, I'm simply saying that this is not the case for everyone.
    And considering that public health policy and public opinion has forced McDonalds here to make changes to their menu and implement the Healthy Choices Menu which even has the Heart Foundation Tick, I'd say that it's certainly not the case in this country. :)
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Trailer wrote:
    Good point!!



    Richard: Scram Tommy. Don't give her the weight room thing.
    [Tommy Boy approaches gorgeous girl acting muscular and buff]
    Tommy: Do you know where the weight room is? I'll check it out. :D:cool:

    :D
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Jeanie wrote:
    Love! :) I wasn't allowed to watch tele as a kid. :) We didn't even have one for a lot of years and then when we did if it wasn't on the ABC at a suitable hour then I couldn't watch it. I wasn't subjected to commercials on tv until I was in my mid to late teens. So their subliminal messages weren't really able to affect my life. As to junk food, well I wasn't allowed to eat that either. We lived a very holistic, whole foods lifestyle from a very early age. I don't think I even ate McDonalds until I was 13 and even then I was only allowed to share a small fries with my brother. We weren't allowed to eat refined sugars or refined flours and certainly nothing with colors or flavors in it. We walked the 45 minutes to school and back everyday or cycled if we were lucky and I was at ballet for at least 20 hours a week by the time I was 12 on top of sport at school and speed skating, and a whole bunch of out of school activities. And I lived less than 100 metres from a McDonald's. I can take or leave the stuff. As I'm quite sure can a lot of other people. I understand what you are saying, I'm simply saying that this is not the case for everyone.
    And considering that public health policy and public opinion has forced McDonalds here to make changes to their menu and implement the Healthy Choices Menu which even has the Heart Foundation Tick, I'd say that it's certainly not the case in this country. :)

    Sounds a lot better than my experience.

    Over here, TV is practically used as the babysitter to pacify kids so adults don't have to deal with it.

    I was rarely supervised while watching TV...if ever.

    They have a saying "the west is the best"... I beg to differ...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Sounds a lot better than my experience.

    Over here, TV is practically used as the babysitter to pacify kids so adults don't have to deal with it.

    I was rarely supervised while watching TV...if ever.

    They have a saying "the west is the best"... I beg to differ...

    Yeah, :D let me tell you Mum's parenting skills weren't particularly well received when we were kids! But we were pretty lucky in hindsight. :)
    Not to say that some of her more militant ideas didn't cause problems for us later in life, but like most things you live and learn. She's always been a big fan of Adele Davis' books and I have to say that I have a couple of well read and often referred to copies myself. Might be of interest to you Roland. She was a pretty cluey woman. :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelle_Davis
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift

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