9/11 Mysteries

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  • Posts: 8,066
    onelongsong wrote:
    you're right. they don't. who here is an expert that can really say? not one. we just pass BS around and come up with hair brained theories. it's our way of wasting time. it's our way of pointing fingers. people think if they say it enough others will start to believe.


    Kind of like the blur that is supposed to be an airplane hitting the pentagon? Hell the feds got their hands on some super tape and seem to not be able to put out a half decent pic. To you and some who think there were no strings attached that blur is super proof. To others it is just another link in a long chain of a half decent plan.
    You've changed your place in this world!
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    MakingWaves wrote:
    In my opinion there have not been any facts posted that support these claims. An you are right about plenty of 'conspiracies' including numerous people. I for one believe in the JFK conspiracy but it would have involved a handful of people on the inside and the people who were outside that circle were killed. In this instance we are talking about hundreds and hundreds of people who would have to be involved and to me that just isn't possible.

    But hey, I like you and have read a lot of your posts and you are obviously a smart person. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

    forensics have proven that JFK was killed by oswald alone. in fact; they proved it couldn't have happened any other way. beyond a shadow of a doubt. so for 42 years we had conspiracy theories running rampant but the original report proved to be what actually happened.

    you're right about the nimber of people that had to be involved. especially someone coming in and cutting structural beams. BUT; when people are involved in things; they talk about it. they usually give information that can be verified. that hasn't happened yet.
    people need to get on with their lives or get a life. nothing will change what happened and the sewage they spew only opens the wounds of those traumatised by the incident.

    the people writing stories and appearing on talk shows are the ones making the profit. especially retired government workers. none have come up with any solid evidence; they only cast doubts so the sheep will follow.
  • Posts: 3,527
    onelongsong wrote:
    if bush had any profit from the attack; i'd like someone to tell me what it was. it actually cost him. it cost him popularity and he couldn't follow through with projects and programs he wanted to do. so he paid the highest price.

    what programs?? ... ha!! ... he doesn't have any ... ever since his "axis of evil" speech - it's been clear that war was the only thing on his agenda ...

    and he's succeeded large ... him and cheney's buddies have made a killing ... all the while - during crisis after crisis - dude still manages to take more vacation and spend time at the ranch then anyone else ...
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    even flow? wrote:
    The guy had the world in his pocket and only after trying to convince them that there was no need to go and bomb the fuckhead's countries back into the stone age who were actually behind the plot and to go after Iraq is when his little world came crumbling down. Only after that mistake. 911 made him a god and he couldn't even run with that properly.

    the guy had support. far from having the world in his pocket. the UN should have entered iraq long before bush became president. at that time; saddam proved to the world that international law will not be enforced. he proved to every other country that they can build nuclear weapons and refuse inspection by the UN without penalty.
    at that time we had the do-nothing clintons in office who allowed the 1993 WTC bombing and the numerous other bombings that followed which ranged from airplanes to casinos. if clinton took action in 1993; the 2001 attack would never have happened. back then bin ladin wasn't as strong as he was in 2001. he didn't have as many followers and he wasn't world wide as he was in 2001.
    so if you need to point fingers; it was clinton's fault. bush was only in office when it happened but they were training for the attack long before bush was elected.
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    polaris wrote:
    what programs?? ... ha!! ... he doesn't have any ... ever since his "axis of evil" speech - it's been clear that war was the only thing on his agenda ...

    and he's succeeded large ... him and cheney's buddies have made a killing ... all the while - during crisis after crisis - dude still manages to take more vacation and spend time at the ranch then anyone else ...

    how? how did he make a profit? i hear this bs all the time but not one person can produce a money trail. his tax returns are public record so show me the money.

    as far as thinking things through; i find no better place than my ranch. and a holiday is the perfect thing to clear a mans mind. i'm sure everyone would feel better if he spent his time chasing interns and getting bj's under the desk in the whitehouse.
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    onelongsong wrote:
    how? how did he make a profit? i hear this bs all the time but not one person can produce a money trail. his tax returns are public record so show me the money.

    as far as thinking things through; i find no better place than my ranch. and a holiday is the perfect thing to clear a mans mind. i'm sure everyone would feel better if he spent his time chasing interns and getting bj's under the desk in the whitehouse.

    really ... you need to get over the clinton thing ... to gripe over interns and blow jobs when we have an administration that tells lies to take a country to war where thousands have suffered is not even close to being comparable ...

    i dunno about bush's profits - but what about cheney? ... still owns stock in haliburton ... what about daddy bush who heads the carlysle group? ... it's about all those cronies that have benefited from bush being in power ...

    and in case you haven't guessed it ... there are a few who believe 9-11 was an inside job ... me being one of them ... so, any reference to what clinton could or didn't do means nothing to me ...

    9-11 was the catalyst that allowed americans to give this administration carte blanche ... they needed it to do what they've done and continue to reap the rewards ...
  • Posts: 10,118
    polaris wrote:
    there are a few who believe 9-11 was an inside job ... me being one of them ...

    so explain to me what you think happened. i'm being serious. who knew what? who made the plans? who attacked our country?

    bush, cheney, the PNAC board members, sat in a room and drew up plans for 9/11 while sipping starbucks? please help me find the truth. and please dont post websites. I'd like to know how it happened according to you.


    I have been severely brainwashed by the bush machine.
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    so explain to me what you think happened. i'm being serious. who knew what? who made the plans? who attacked our country?

    bush, cheney, the PNAC board members, sat in a room and drew up plans for 9/11 while sipping starbucks? please help me find the truth. and please dont post websites. I'd like to know how it happened according to you.


    I have been severely brainwashed by the bush machine.

    i'll give you this analogy ... there must be a hundred ingredients that go into making a hot dog ... i dunno exactly what each one is but if it looks like a hot dog; tastes like a hot dog and joey chestnut is holding one ... i'm gonna say it's one ...
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    so explain to me what you think happened. i'm being serious. who knew what? who made the plans? who attacked our country?

    bush, cheney, the PNAC board members, sat in a room and drew up plans for 9/11 while sipping starbucks? please help me find the truth. and please dont post websites. I'd like to know how it happened according to you.


    I have been severely brainwashed by the bush machine.

    LOLLERSKATES
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  • Posts: 10,118
    polaris wrote:
    i'll give you this analogy ... there must be a hundred ingredients that go into making a hot dog ... i dunno exactly what each one is but if it looks like a hot dog; tastes like a hot dog and joey chestnut is holding one ... i'm gonna say it's one ...

    congratulations on posting one of the dumbest things I have ever read with my own eyes.
  • Posts: 3,527
    jlew24asu wrote:
    congratulations on posting one of the dumbest things I have ever read with my own eyes.

    coming from the all-knowing one - i take this prize with dignity ... ;)
  • Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    congratulations on posting one of the dumbest things I have ever read with my own eyes.

    This coming from someone who just posted '...I have ever read with my own eyes.'

    As opposed to all the other sets of eyes you borrow for reading??
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    This coming from someone who just posted '...I have ever read with my own eyes.'

    As opposed to all the other sets of eyes you borrow for reading??


    my eyes hurt today.
  • Posts: 10,118
    polaris wrote:
    coming from the all-knowing one - i take this prize with dignity ... ;)

    would have been nice if you gave a real answer. but if it looks like a dumbass, talks like a dumbass, yada, yada, yada,
  • Posts: 3,527
    jlew24asu wrote:
    would have been nice if you gave a real answer. but if it looks like a dumbass, talks like a dumbass, yada, yada, yada,

    i did ... but it's not my fault you don't understand it ...
  • Posts: 6,056
    onelongsong wrote:
    nice to have you here earle

    check who profits from inventing the mysteries. if you can't believe your eyes then you can't believe your mind. nobody profited from 9/11. it cost us all something whether it be tax dollars or losing a loved one.
    look at the fact that even if washington knew the time of the attack a week in advance; what could they do? a preemptive strike would have put the world in an uproar. the hijackers were already in the us so grounding all aircraft would have been the only solution. once again the country would be in an uproar.
    conspiracy theories sell books and tele shows. that's where the profit is. there was also a lot of profit to anyone that had pictures or video of the attack. that day brought the highest price; it was lower the next day. anyone with video sold it and it was public within a week. now we see videos surfacing 6 years later. do you think this person saved this video or maybe doctored an existing video?
    if bush had any profit from the attack; i'd like someone to tell me what it was. it actually cost him. it cost him popularity and he couldn't follow through with projects and programs he wanted to do. so he paid the highest price.

    Without getting into the myriad of people/corps profitting from the illegal war that had initial public support because of that day….
    Larry Silverstein got a $5.7 billion insurance settlement out of a $15 million dollar initial investment in the WTC….and got rid of three buildings that needed over a billion in retrofit work….for free.
    Someone cashed in huge on put options placed on the airlines.
    The airlines themselves received billions in bailout money (didn't have time to search numbers, sorry).
    I'm sure Enron, the California Power Authority, et al saved a few bucks in fines and legal fees when the Securities and Exchange Commission was destroyed along with WTC 7.
    Someone profitted from all the booty that went missing from the basement of the towers (some estimate up to $16 billion in gold alone, plus art, guns, drugs, etc. seized in CIA raids).
    Who in the media profitted from half the world being glued to their tvs for days back in 01?
    Who in Homeland Security, the CIA, SS, FBI, etc. stand to profit from all of the increased funding?

    You can compare this to some guy selling a video or tv appearance for a couple grand?
    No way….this went down the same as it always does…the rich got richer…the rest of you pay more taxes and insurance.
    It's akin to saying, "shoplifting hurts us all"…well no, it doesn't….the guy getting away with all stolen goods is not being hurt by the price increases, is he?
  • Posts: 10,118
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Without getting into the myriad of people/corps profitting from the illegal war that had initial public support because of that day….
    Larry Silverstein got a $5.7 billion insurance settlement out of a $15 million dollar initial investment in the WTC….and got rid of three buildings that needed over a billion in retrofit work….for free.
    Someone cashed in huge on put options placed on the airlines.
    The airlines themselves received billions in bailout money (didn't have time to search numbers, sorry).
    I'm sure Enron, the California Power Authority, et al saved a few bucks in fines and legal fees when the Securities and Exchange Commission was destroyed along with WTC 7.
    Someone profitted from all the booty that went missing from the basement of the towers (some estimate up to $16 billion in gold alone, plus art, guns, drugs, etc. seized in CIA raids).
    Who in the media profitted from half the world being glued to their tvs for days back in 01?
    Who in Homeland Security, the CIA, SS, FBI, etc. stand to profit from all of the increased funding?
    so you are either saying that the business cycle ran its course after 9/11 or all of these people were part of the inside job that took place all under the noses of 280,000,000 americans??
  • Posts: 3,517
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Without getting into the myriad of people/corps profitting from the illegal war that had initial public support because of that day….
    Larry Silverstein got a $5.7 billion insurance settlement out of a $15 million dollar initial investment in the WTC….and got rid of three buildings that needed over a billion in retrofit work….for free.
    Someone cashed in huge on put options placed on the airlines.
    The airlines themselves received billions in bailout money (didn't have time to search numbers, sorry).
    I'm sure Enron, the California Power Authority, et al saved a few bucks in fines and legal fees when the Securities and Exchange Commission was destroyed along with WTC 7.
    Someone profitted from all the booty that went missing from the basement of the towers (some estimate up to $16 billion in gold alone, plus art, guns, drugs, etc. seized in CIA raids).
    Who in the media profitted from half the world being glued to their tvs for days back in 01?
    Who in Homeland Security, the CIA, SS, FBI, etc. stand to profit from all of the increased funding?

    You can compare this to some guy selling a video or tv appearance for a couple grand?
    No way….this went down the same as it always does…the rich got richer…the rest of you pay more taxes and insurance.
    It's akin to saying, "shoplifting hurts us all"…well no, it doesn't….the guy getting away with all stolen goods is not being hurt by the price increases, is he?

    so you're basically saying a good part of the population was involved because they made a profit?
  • Posts: 6,056
    check the post I quoted....onelongsong sounds like no one but a guy with a handi-cam and a theory made money off of 9/11. I'm not saying everyone that made money from 9/11 was involved. But I think Silverstein had prior knowledge....maybe an exec or two from the airlines...and whomever placed the put options...and whomever ended up with the missing treasure...Enron, California Power, etc probably just had a favour returned ;)
  • Posts: 8,209
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/illegaltrades.html
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde

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