Was Bena vinyl sold by 10c?

ReleaseMe...
ReleaseMe... Posts: 494
edited October 2008 in The Porch
if so, then why so many being sold? everything tenclub usually sells comes with the "not for resale" tag. why is this allowed to be marketed all over the place for so much? especially something like this that can be so easily traced since they are numbered.....

i always thought if i bought a poster from the site and sold it, somehow they would trace it back to me and id be banned (all of my posters are framed and hanging up). i just dont see, why they are allowing this for BH?
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  • olderman
    olderman Posts: 1,765
    Yes, it was originally sold by 10C.

    There are probably some sellers who don't care if they lose their membership and others who probably don't think that the 10C will track the secondary sale.

    And there are probably some copies for sale that were "inherited" or passed along or otherwise no longer in the possession of the original buyer.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,894
    ah yes! what a night that was. 4am, halifax time, on the pc making this sweet order! :)

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  • ReleaseMe...
    ReleaseMe... Posts: 494
    demetrios wrote:
    ah yes! what a night that was. 4am, halifax time, on the pc making this sweet order! :)

    http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2171/yesvc1.jpg
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  • NeilJam
    NeilJam Posts: 1,191
    I'm not sure it had the "NOT FOR RESALE" tag in the description. I don't think 10 Club added that to special items until later. It was just restricted to 10 Club members.

    It was available to purchase for at least 12 hours. No limited edition vinyl would last that long on the site these days.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,894
    NeilJam wrote:
    It was available to purchase for at least 12 hours. No limited edition vinyl would last that long on the site these days.

    well, it was a midnight seattle time main event! i was pretty suprised though that it was up that long. only 2000 copies printed.

    on the other hand, ebay was just 4 years old that time. so the non pj fans, the ones who just wanted to buy stuff and sell so high on the bay didn't take notice of this stuff.
  • mjb
    mjb Posts: 1,315
    demetrios wrote:
    ah yes! what a night that was. 4am, halifax time, on the pc making this sweet order! :)

    http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2171/yesvc1.jpg

    You are well organized my man.
  • AndySlash
    AndySlash Posts: 3,287
    mjb wrote:
    You are well organized my man.


    Or just smart enough to access his order history on the tenclub site and take a screengrab of it.

    http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5712/28890188od0.jpg


    I'm pretty sure I didn't get it right away, either. Whoever said they wouldn't last that long today is cetainly right on the money. How long did it take ITW to sell out?
  • mjb
    mjb Posts: 1,315
    AndySlash wrote:
    Or just smart enough to access his order history on the tenclub site and take a screengrab of it.

    http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5712/28890188od0.jpg


    I'm pretty sure I didn't get it right away, either. Whoever said they wouldn't last that long today is cetainly right on the money. How long did it take ITW to sell out?

    I actually meant being by the comp at 4:00 am pulling the trigger on the release...pretty sure that was well before we all whipped ourselves into such frenzies around here clicking and refreshing
  • AndySlash
    AndySlash Posts: 3,287
    Ah. I thought you meant saving his order info and being able to find it on his computer 4 years later.

    Too bad this site doesn't have an archive. I'd love to find the original thread about the release of this.
  • Cardinal
    Cardinal Posts: 479
    Why is Benny so great?

    I bought a copy...on CD and its on its way to me now from 10C. so tell me why is it so great? ARe the Benny sealed records just rare.... so thats why people are so proud to have it....or is it a musical masterpiece my ears have not heard yet? Inform me...because I dont know.

    I dont understand the whole record thing....i dont ever see getting into it either I like new tech rather than old tech.....but i would love to know why this piece is so important to many collectors...its it the low number of them making its cost soar that people get all revved about or is it the music on it and having it in limited quanity?

    I really hope its the music.....even though many will take that angle to not look greedy or capitalistic....is that even a word?..lol

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  • dsvelund
    dsvelund Posts: 31
    10C actually is doing something about it. They now have 10 extra employees devoted to making sure posters/vinyl, etc are not being resold. They troll ebay, they go to garage sales (nationwide), and they actually even make house calls on 10C members. They show up, ring your doorbell, flash their badges, and demand to see your 10C merchandise. 10C hired the guy responsible for making sure people did not cut the warning tags off their hairdryers and mattresses to oversee the program.
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  • demetrios
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    dsvelund wrote:
    10C hired the guy responsible for making sure people did not cut the warning tags off their hairdryers and mattresses to oversee the program.

    shit!!! my sealy matress tag was bothering the hell out of me last night. i can't find the tag anywhere's. d'oh!
  • Shawn Smith Collective
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    For whatever it's worth, under the "First Sale Doctrine," Pearl Jam and 10c can ask their customers not to resell, but they have no grounds to legally stop them or penalize them for doing so. All they can do is ask and hope that their customers/fans honor their request.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    I remember the sale well

    I was in China and up in the middle of the night

    then the servers crashed took awhile to get it to go through

    I don't recall the "not for resale" restriction either
    I think that only applies to posters.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    Shawn Smith Collective wrote:
    For whatever it's worth, under the "First Sale Doctrine," Pearl Jam and 10c can ask their customers not to resell, but they have no grounds to legally stop them or penalize them for doing so. All they can do is ask and hope that their customers/fans honor their request.

    and revoke memberships for failure to comply with the house rules
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    dsvelund wrote:
    10C actually is doing something about it. They now have 10 extra employees devoted to making sure posters/vinyl, etc are not being resold. They troll ebay, they go to garage sales (nationwide), and they actually even make house calls on 10C members. They show up, ring your doorbell, flash their badges, and demand to see your 10C merchandise. 10C hired the guy responsible for making sure people did not cut the warning tags off their hairdryers and mattresses to oversee the program.

    great post....

    Honestly peeps, this is still America.

    I don't understand why some get so bent on the resale issue anyway.
    It's not like the Beny was sold here recently.

    There's no way 10c can determine what you are selling came from them anyway. Once any of these items hit the secondary market it's all fair game.
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  • Cardinal
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  • Mrs.Vedder78
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    demetrios wrote:
    ah yes! what a night that was. 4am, halifax time, on the pc making this sweet order! :)

    http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2171/yesvc1.jpg


    I so remember that, the sale started late at night I think, I didnt get mine until like 5am, my son was 9 days old by then and I think I bought it when I woke up for one of his feedings... SOOOOO glad I decided to do buy it then :D
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  • Mrs.Vedder78
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    AndySlash wrote:
    Or just smart enough to access his order history on the tenclub site and take a screengrab of it.

    http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5712/28890188od0.jpg


    I'm pretty sure I didn't get it right away, either. Whoever said they wouldn't last that long today is cetainly right on the money. How long did it take ITW to sell out?


    Benaroya was available for hours... it wasn't hard to get at all, the LP went on sale something like at midnight can't remember what coast time and I didnt get mine until 5 or 6 hours later, Benaroya was still available the next morning there was no crashing servers or anything like that when I tried at 5am EST...
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,332
    Mrs_Vedder78 wrote:
    Benaroya was available for hours... it wasn't hard to get at all, the LP went on sale something like at midnight can't remember what coast time and I didnt get mine until 5 or 6 hours later, Benaroya was still available the next morning there was no crashing servers or anything like that when I tried at 5am EST...

    the vinyl went on sale at 12am Pacific. purchased mine from the 10C at 4pm Eastern the day of the sale, 13 hours after the vinyl became available for sale and 15 minutes before the vinyl was out of stock :)
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