What would it take for you to justify military action against Iran?

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    What are you talking about?
    Israel does NOT have nuclear weapons.
    They emphatically deny that they would be the ones to "nuclearize" the region.
    :rolleyes:

    Interesting but more on M. Vanunu and Israel and their nukes or Not? Pick one. :rolleyes:

    Carter: Israel Has 150 Nukes

    Peace
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    g under p wrote:
    Interesting but more on M. Vanunu and Israel and their nukes or Not? Pick one. :rolleyes:

    Carter: Israel Has 150 Nukes

    Peace

    sure buddy.
    :D

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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    "Judaism Condemns Zionist Provocations Against Iran"

    Classic.
    :D

    Just to show exactly HOW opposite Zionism and Judaism are and ALWAYS have been,
    this is a quote straight out of the diary of the man who is the damn near founding father of Zionism, Theodore Hertzel, who published the first book of great importance to Zionism, "Der Judenstaat" (The Jewish State):

    In the diary of Hertzel, page 14, he writes a way to solve the problem of anti-Semitism was to speak to the head priest of Vienna to get an appointment with the Pope, to make a mass conversion of all the Jews of Austria to Catholicism. He continues: "It should be done on a Sunday, in the middle of the day, with music, and pride, publicly. We are the last generation that held on to the faith of our for-fathers. The conversion would be in St. Stephen's Cathedral."

    Jew or Zionist?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    "Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death". - Adolph Hitler

    "Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country".- Nazi leader Hermann Goering

    "The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened"
    - Josef Stalin
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    pateljam wrote:
    An Iranian warship off the coast of California would justify miltary action


    How about US warships off the coast off....all over the place.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Mutiny! he cried
    Mutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    How about US warships off the coast off....all over the place.


    nah, they're spreading freedom

    duh
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Mutiny! he cried wrote:
    nah, they're spreading freedom

    duh


    *slaps head* of course...lethal exploding freedom like flowers from a gun barrel.

    Only the terrorists resist the imperial force...."you're either with us or against us" Bush said...

    one of us...or one of them.....and we kill them....now give me your taxes, and get back to work!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Mutiny! he cried wrote:
    nah, they're spreading freedom

    duh

    and yet it smells an awful lot like bullshit.
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  • Mutiny! he cried
    Mutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    catefrances wrote:
    and yet it smells an awful lot like bullshit.


    yeah, it's funny how that works, innit?
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    catefrances wrote:
    and yet it smells an awful lot like bullshit.

    Only because its loaded with good quality manure to help all the flowers shot out of their guns to grow and prosper in the harsh desert terrains.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    when keeping the peace looks like war something is gravely wrong.
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  • Grace7
    Grace7 Posts: 53
    catefrances wrote:
    when keeping the peace looks like war something is gravely wrong.

    OH So TRUE!
  • Grace7
    Grace7 Posts: 53
    No no no. I can't see an attack happening. I really believe that there was a window of time that it seemed very likely that we would strike, or provoke an attack when we sent half the bloody navy to the Straits of Harmuz/ Persian Gulf. I believe the neo cons thought the moment was right but I don't think the military was on board.Remember the Admiral that resigned? Damn I have a bad memory! Anyway I think the moment passed. Maybe it was the soaring oil prices.
    Do you really see people pouring into the streets to defend Israel if there was a false flag attack on them?
    Wouldn't it be political suicide?


    The day will come when any candidate for US office will fail if they have any association w/ Israeli lobbies.
    Peace
  • Mutiny! he cried
    Mutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    Grace7 wrote:
    No no no. I can't see an attack happening. I really believe that there was a window of time that it seemed very likely that we would strike, or provoke an attack when we sent half the bloody navy to the Straits of Harmuz/ Persian Gulf. I believe the neo cons thought the moment was right but I don't think the military was on board.Remember the Admiral that resigned? Damn I have a bad memory! Anyway I think the moment passed. Maybe it was the soaring oil prices.
    Do you really see people pouring into the streets to defend Israel if there was a false flag attack on them?
    Wouldn't it be political suicide?


    The day will come when any candidate for US office will fail if they have any association w/ Israeli lobbies.
    Peace


    maybe they'll shoot down another commercial airliner like we did under reagan (or was that bush I?)
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Mutiny! he cried wrote:
    maybe they'll shoot down another commercial airliner like we did under reagan (or was that bush I?)

    are you implying that the government of the united states of america is capable of nefarious deeds in order to further their agenda?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    sure buddy.
    :D

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    :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Mutiny! he cried
    Mutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    catefrances wrote:
    are you implying that the government of the united states of america is capable of nefarious deeds in order to further their agenda?


    NEVER!!!! how dare you insinuate such things! the US is benevolent and the defenders of freedom!

    I don't know if it's sadder the crew that shot down that civilian airliner received medals for it or that we said we refused to apologize
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • pateljam
    pateljam Posts: 340
    Grace7 wrote:

    The day will come when any candidate for US office will fail if they have any association w/ Israeli lobbies.
    Peace


    Nice idea, but not in our life time though...
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Mutiny! he cried wrote:
    NEVER!!!! how dare you insinuate such things! the US is benevolent and the defenders of freedom!

    I don't know if it's sadder the crew that shot down that civilian airliner received medals for it or that we said we refused to apologize

    apologise for what? ;):)

    and yes that whole medal thing was as disgusting as the joyous display from women i saw when OJ was acquitted of hacking his exwife and her friend to death.
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  • Grace7
    Grace7 Posts: 53
    Mutiny! he cried wrote:
    maybe they'll shoot down another commercial airliner like we did under reagan (or was that bush I?)
    Another slimy item: When Bush1 launched Desert Storm there were all these reports of the Iraqi soldiers going into Kuwaiti hospitals and throwing babies out of incubators and onto the cold floor. Then this young Kuwaiti girl said she was there, in the hospital. and saw the whole thing.
    It was later discovered that she was the daughter of the Kuwait Ambassador to US. It had been arranged by Rep.Tom Lantos (D) CA and a PR firm in DC. Now although Lantos was the Chairman of Foreign Relations Committee and many other powerful commitees, he was first and foremost a Jewish concentration camp survivor and therfore untouchable!! Not only that he was treated as the last word on all foreign relations because he was a kid in a German concentration camp!!
    You just can't believe anything from these people. He was huge supporter of Iraq war against Iran and thought Saddam should be given all support needed so that thru the war it would contain the fast growing population of Iran!!
    What a peach. He gave up his seat when he died a few years ago.

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