*You can Bomb the World to Pieces, But you can't Bomb into Peace*...Michael Franti
Why is it that it's ok for Israel to have nuclear weapons and NOT Iran. I'd rather see Iran with nuclear weapons than Israel. There is NO circumstance for military action against Iran at this time.
Peace
total agreement here.
our situation with Israel is disgraceful.
IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
What are you talking about?
Israel does NOT have nuclear weapons.
They emphatically deny that they would be the ones to "nuclearize" the region.
:rolleyes:
Didn't they kidnap and lock up a scientist because he admitted they had nukes (which everyone knows anyway)?
and technically it's a violation of US law to give aid to Israel or any country with a secret nuclear program (as well as selling them weapons used on civilians)
'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
Didn't they kidnap and lock up a scientist because he admitted they had nukes (which everyone knows anyway)?
and technically it's a violation of US law to give aid to Israel or any country with a secret nuclear program (as well as selling them weapons used on civilians)
Israel would NEVER do that.
You goddamn anti-semite.
:cool:
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Israel would NEVER do that.
You goddamn anti-semite.
:cool:
noooo i'm pretty sure they did
I think his last name started with a M
'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
Definitely! Even if they did discover any traces of weapons-grade Uranium or Plutonium in Israel, I'd have to blame the Iranians for it. Its the only logical conclusion one can make.
Edit: Or maybe even Morocco? The guy is from Morocco, he must be a terrorist.
CNN showed his release live, it came on really early in the morning, anyway he started to give a speech, the minute he started to say negative things about Israel, the my cable went blank and I got a 'Sorry for the inconvenience.BrightHouse networks'
Then it picked up again near the end of his speech. Infact I had it on video, It's probably back in Florida. I'll have to try and dig that up for you guys.
CNN showed his release live, it came on really early in the morning, anyway he started to give a speech, the minute he started to say negative things about Israel, the my cable went blank and I got a 'Sorry for the inconvenience.BrightHouse networks'
Then it picked up again near the end of his speech. Infact I had it on video, It's probably back in Florida. I'll have to try and dig that up for you guys.
Hahaha classic .. you wouldn't expect any less from them
To answer the OP, an invasion of the US by Iran is the only justification I can think of and I don't see that happening in the next 500-1000 years.
If initiated by the US or someone else like Israel or the UK or wherever?
Not stopping it's nuclear power program? An attack attributed to Iran (meaning they supplied the attackers with material and/or help)?
An Iranian warship off the coast of California would justify miltary action
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What are you talking about?
Israel does NOT have nuclear weapons.
They emphatically deny that they would be the ones to "nuclearize" the region.
:rolleyes:
Interesting but more on M. Vanunu and Israel and their nukes or Not? Pick one. :rolleyes:
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Just to show exactly HOW opposite Zionism and Judaism are and ALWAYS have been,
this is a quote straight out of the diary of the man who is the damn near founding father of Zionism, Theodore Hertzel, who published the first book of great importance to Zionism, "Der Judenstaat" (The Jewish State):
In the diary of Hertzel, page 14, he writes a way to solve the problem of anti-Semitism was to speak to the head priest of Vienna to get an appointment with the Pope, to make a mass conversion of all the Jews of Austria to Catholicism. He continues: "It should be done on a Sunday, in the middle of the day, with music, and pride, publicly. We are the last generation that held on to the faith of our for-fathers. The conversion would be in St. Stephen's Cathedral."
Jew or Zionist?
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death". - Adolph Hitler
"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country".- Nazi leader Hermann Goering
"The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened"
- Josef Stalin
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
An Iranian warship off the coast of California would justify miltary action
How about US warships off the coast off....all over the place.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
How about US warships off the coast off....all over the place.
nah, they're spreading freedom
duh
'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
*slaps head* of course...lethal exploding freedom like flowers from a gun barrel.
Only the terrorists resist the imperial force...."you're either with us or against us" Bush said...
one of us...or one of them.....and we kill them....now give me your taxes, and get back to work!
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
No no no. I can't see an attack happening. I really believe that there was a window of time that it seemed very likely that we would strike, or provoke an attack when we sent half the bloody navy to the Straits of Harmuz/ Persian Gulf. I believe the neo cons thought the moment was right but I don't think the military was on board.Remember the Admiral that resigned? Damn I have a bad memory! Anyway I think the moment passed. Maybe it was the soaring oil prices.
Do you really see people pouring into the streets to defend Israel if there was a false flag attack on them?
Wouldn't it be political suicide?
The day will come when any candidate for US office will fail if they have any association w/ Israeli lobbies.
Peace
No no no. I can't see an attack happening. I really believe that there was a window of time that it seemed very likely that we would strike, or provoke an attack when we sent half the bloody navy to the Straits of Harmuz/ Persian Gulf. I believe the neo cons thought the moment was right but I don't think the military was on board.Remember the Admiral that resigned? Damn I have a bad memory! Anyway I think the moment passed. Maybe it was the soaring oil prices.
Do you really see people pouring into the streets to defend Israel if there was a false flag attack on them?
Wouldn't it be political suicide?
The day will come when any candidate for US office will fail if they have any association w/ Israeli lobbies.
Peace
maybe they'll shoot down another commercial airliner like we did under reagan (or was that bush I?)
'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
are you implying that the government of the united states of america is capable of nefarious deeds in order to further their agenda?
NEVER!!!! how dare you insinuate such things! the US is benevolent and the defenders of freedom!
I don't know if it's sadder the crew that shot down that civilian airliner received medals for it or that we said we refused to apologize
'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
The day will come when any candidate for US office will fail if they have any association w/ Israeli lobbies.
Peace
Nice idea, but not in our life time though...
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NEVER!!!! how dare you insinuate such things! the US is benevolent and the defenders of freedom!
I don't know if it's sadder the crew that shot down that civilian airliner received medals for it or that we said we refused to apologize
apologise for what?
and yes that whole medal thing was as disgusting as the joyous display from women i saw when OJ was acquitted of hacking his exwife and her friend to death.
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maybe they'll shoot down another commercial airliner like we did under reagan (or was that bush I?)
Another slimy item: When Bush1 launched Desert Storm there were all these reports of the Iraqi soldiers going into Kuwaiti hospitals and throwing babies out of incubators and onto the cold floor. Then this young Kuwaiti girl said she was there, in the hospital. and saw the whole thing.
It was later discovered that she was the daughter of the Kuwait Ambassador to US. It had been arranged by Rep.Tom Lantos (D) CA and a PR firm in DC. Now although Lantos was the Chairman of Foreign Relations Committee and many other powerful commitees, he was first and foremost a Jewish concentration camp survivor and therfore untouchable!! Not only that he was treated as the last word on all foreign relations because he was a kid in a German concentration camp!!
You just can't believe anything from these people. He was huge supporter of Iraq war against Iran and thought Saddam should be given all support needed so that thru the war it would contain the fast growing population of Iran!!
What a peach. He gave up his seat when he died a few years ago.
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our situation with Israel is disgraceful.
Didn't they kidnap and lock up a scientist because he admitted they had nukes (which everyone knows anyway)?
and technically it's a violation of US law to give aid to Israel or any country with a secret nuclear program (as well as selling them weapons used on civilians)
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
Israel would NEVER do that.
You goddamn anti-semite.
:cool:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
noooo i'm pretty sure they did
I think his last name started with a M
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
Mordechai Vanunu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu
conspiracy theorist bullshit.
Israel does NOT have nukes!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Definitely! Even if they did discover any traces of weapons-grade Uranium or Plutonium in Israel, I'd have to blame the Iranians for it. Its the only logical conclusion one can make.
Edit: Or maybe even Morocco? The guy is from Morocco, he must be a terrorist.
CNN showed his release live, it came on really early in the morning, anyway he started to give a speech, the minute he started to say negative things about Israel, the my cable went blank and I got a 'Sorry for the inconvenience.BrightHouse networks'
Then it picked up again near the end of his speech. Infact I had it on video, It's probably back in Florida. I'll have to try and dig that up for you guys.
Hahaha classic
To answer the OP, an invasion of the US by Iran is the only justification I can think of and I don't see that happening in the next 500-1000 years.
An Iranian warship off the coast of California would justify miltary action
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Interesting but more on M. Vanunu and Israel and their nukes or Not? Pick one. :rolleyes:
Carter: Israel Has 150 Nukes
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
sure buddy.
one of my new favorites
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Classic.
Just to show exactly HOW opposite Zionism and Judaism are and ALWAYS have been,
this is a quote straight out of the diary of the man who is the damn near founding father of Zionism, Theodore Hertzel, who published the first book of great importance to Zionism, "Der Judenstaat" (The Jewish State):
In the diary of Hertzel, page 14, he writes a way to solve the problem of anti-Semitism was to speak to the head priest of Vienna to get an appointment with the Pope, to make a mass conversion of all the Jews of Austria to Catholicism. He continues: "It should be done on a Sunday, in the middle of the day, with music, and pride, publicly. We are the last generation that held on to the faith of our for-fathers. The conversion would be in St. Stephen's Cathedral."
Jew or Zionist?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country".- Nazi leader Hermann Goering
"The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened"
- Josef Stalin
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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How about US warships off the coast off....all over the place.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
nah, they're spreading freedom
duh
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
*slaps head* of course...lethal exploding freedom like flowers from a gun barrel.
Only the terrorists resist the imperial force...."you're either with us or against us" Bush said...
one of us...or one of them.....and we kill them....now give me your taxes, and get back to work!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
and yet it smells an awful lot like bullshit.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
yeah, it's funny how that works, innit?
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
Only because its loaded with good quality manure to help all the flowers shot out of their guns to grow and prosper in the harsh desert terrains.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
OH So TRUE!
Do you really see people pouring into the streets to defend Israel if there was a false flag attack on them?
Wouldn't it be political suicide?
The day will come when any candidate for US office will fail if they have any association w/ Israeli lobbies.
Peace
maybe they'll shoot down another commercial airliner like we did under reagan (or was that bush I?)
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
are you implying that the government of the united states of america is capable of nefarious deeds in order to further their agenda?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
A few of mine...
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/ZakkVanDime/message%20boards/TinFoilHat_puton.jpg
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/tin_foil.jpg
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
NEVER!!!! how dare you insinuate such things! the US is benevolent and the defenders of freedom!
I don't know if it's sadder the crew that shot down that civilian airliner received medals for it or that we said we refused to apologize
'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
and you swear it's not a trend
it doesn't matter anyway
there's no need to talk as friends
nothing news everyday
all the kids will eat it up
if it's packaged properly'
Nice idea, but not in our life time though...
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apologise for what?
and yes that whole medal thing was as disgusting as the joyous display from women i saw when OJ was acquitted of hacking his exwife and her friend to death.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
It was later discovered that she was the daughter of the Kuwait Ambassador to US. It had been arranged by Rep.Tom Lantos (D) CA and a PR firm in DC. Now although Lantos was the Chairman of Foreign Relations Committee and many other powerful commitees, he was first and foremost a Jewish concentration camp survivor and therfore untouchable!! Not only that he was treated as the last word on all foreign relations because he was a kid in a German concentration camp!!
You just can't believe anything from these people. He was huge supporter of Iraq war against Iran and thought Saddam should be given all support needed so that thru the war it would contain the fast growing population of Iran!!
What a peach. He gave up his seat when he died a few years ago.