I break the law everyday...

That's our future imperilistic Nation working at it's best.

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Peace

my2hands wrote:

by smoking a plant. I can be arrested and jailed for possesion of mother nature.

While at the same time our president lie's about justifications for war, resulting in the slaughter of hundreds of thousands. Not to mention continuing to escalate the war. and that is all "legal". He continues to be treated like royalty, indulging in private flights, world travel, $1000 suits, world class security, and 5 star meals. All paid for by us, while he smirks and laughs.

something is very wrong with this picture.

mother nature = illegal
lying to invoke war resulting in a mass slaughter = legal

what the fuck is wrong with us?

Every day?

While I agree the weed should be legal and the way we went into war was dispicable, it's really apples and oranges, two separate discussions.

my2hands wrote:

by smoking a plant. I can be arrested and jailed for possesion of mother nature.

While at the same time our president lie's about justifications for war, resulting in the slaughter of hundreds of thousands. Not to mention continuing to escalate the war. and that is all "legal". He continues to be treated like royalty, indulging in private flights, world travel, $1000 suits, world class security, and 5 star meals. All paid for by us, while he smirks and laughs.

something is very wrong with this picture.

mother nature = illegal
lying to invoke war resulting in a mass slaughter = legal

what the fuck is wrong with us?

I hear you...and i don't know when people will start to care

Why does everyone make a big deal about marijuana being illegal.....its kinda like speeding.....sure its illegal, but its not strictly enforced anyway. As long as you don't get stupid with it and grow an acre of plants nobody bothers you about it. I've been busted with a couple of joints before, and all the cop did was confiscate the evidence, and told me to be more careful.....just like speeding...if you go about 5 to 10 over the limit, you don't get into trouble...its going 15+ over the limit that gets you in trouble.... hence the rule for life is, everything is okay in moderation!

Indian Summer wrote:

Why does everyone make a big deal about marijuana being illegal.....its kinda like speeding.....sure its illegal, but its not strictly enforced anyway. As long as you don't get stupid with it and grow an acre of plants nobody bothers you about it. I've been busted with a couple of joints before, and all the cop did was confiscate the evidence, and told me to be more careful.....just like speeding...if you go about 5 to 10 over the limit, you don't get into trouble...its going 15+ over the limit that gets you in trouble.... hence the rule for life is, everything is okay in moderation!

man....think about it. Someone has to grow it. someone has to distribute.

Ok, this can be justified by the risk/reward factor, right? They make a lot of money for their risk....but this is exactly what makes it dangerous. It's an unregulated industry. Someone burns you in business you call a lawyer...someone burns you for drugs, you get a bat...or worse.

If those people weren't risking their freedom, their lives at times for their "jobs", you wouldn't be getting high at all, and you might think it's a bigger deal. It's so hypocritical to smoke weed and judge the people that got it to you because of the legality of it....when it's illegal for you to smoke too!

angelica wrote:

When people realize the humanity that is stifled due to self-induced loss of consciousness, it's mind-boggling. And by this I mean in the myriad behaviours humans use from substance abuse, workaholism, shopaholism, rageaholism, sex addictions (including to porn/masturbating), eating issues, etc. This self-induced loss of consciousness is what keeps the majority unempowered. Literally.

War and killing is definitely part of nature. Like substance abuse, it's indicative of where we are in our evolution, and of the lacks that we face, including where we could use growth and more adaptive (less maladaptive) mechanisms for making progress, evolutionarily speaking.

come off it angelica you can not compare killing in a bogus war to toking on a scoobie while watching wayne's world.

my2hands wrote:

i was just trying to help make the point

it is not apples and oranges in a way... it paints a picture of our society and our way of thinking from a big picture view... you can be arrested for possesion of a plant, while at the same time your leaders can lie, cheat, steal, and slaughter people without consequence...


same thing apply's to this board... if i start a threat talking about sex and the human body and reproductive system in frank fashion, the thread will be locked and i will get banned

yet at the same time i can start a thread frankly talking about war, destruction, bombs, killing, etc... and it will not get touched by the mods... because sex and bad words are not accpetable subjects, yet war and killing are completely acceptable


it should be the opposite IMO... sex should be openly talked about and embraced as natural, and war and killing should be "unacceptable" and not tolerated

just my way of looking at our wierd ass human rac, feel free to call me crazy


janet jackson flashes a nipple and it is an uproar... WE ALL HAVE FUCKING NIPPLES!

while at the same time violent images and discussions are commonplace and accepted as "natural"

for example... if i post a picture of a womans breast, vagina, or ass... or a mans penis the thread will get locked and the pic deleted, plus i will get banned, even though we all have the same body parts?........ and if i post a pic of a 5 year old with his head ripped off by a bomb during this war it will be left alone and not censored..... if you ask me that is just flat out backwards, and it shows our overall mentality as a whole


boobs not bombs

I gotta agree, your country worships war, and thinks nipples are dangerous. It's one of the more absurd paradoxes out there. It's a religious nut thing !!
BTW, marijuana is bad for brains. While the OP is boasitng about his toking, his brain is slowly rotting and he is wasting his life. Every day I see people who openly regret smoking dope.

catefrances wrote:

sorry to disagree with you angelica but i don't see toking as an evolutionary problem.
and what fucking reality is that you're on about? whose reality are you talking about?
i choose to 'demonise' the president cause the man is an idiot. and anyone who can't see that what is going on is wrong is just plain stupid and ignorant. and that is MY reality!!

No need to apologise. You are very much entitled to "your" reality, and your view.

To me, George Bush is 100% accountable for his each and every choice, including the consequences of his actions that he accepts and the consequences of his actions that he is oblivious to. Just as we are each 100% accountable for our each choice--for both the consequences for our actions that we are aware of and accept, and for the ones we are oblivious to. It's just the way it works.

my2hands wrote:

I can be arrested and jailed for possesion of mother nature.

given that most ALL substances are "mother nature" that statement is meaningless.

Carbon. Hydrogen. Oxygen. It's chemistry, people.

catefrances wrote:

i wasn't really apologising. i was being facetious.

how can we be held accountable for something we are unaware of, if we do something in good faith? i'm not talking about something with ambiguity but an honest good faith move.

Natural law. If you walk off a cliff, unaware of it's existence, you fall. It is what it is.

When people stifle who they are, there are widespread ramifications. The psychological root of all maladaptive behaviours is to adapt the best way we know how. It's a band-aid. For example, when we are children, or teens or young adults and have not learned ways to care for ourselves that are healthy. We might use drugs, etc. The underlying issue is that we have our emotional selves inside that we have not learned to adapt. As long as we continue the maladaptive ways, we continue to squash our true inner selves, staying unconscious of who we fully are. Again, the consequences are huge and widespread. Because we do not know how to take care of our emotional selves humanely and decently (because we continue to subdue, dominate, drug and numb our inner selves) we do not know how to
treat others humanely either. We reflect those patterns all around us. Look around on this board for example. And it goes much further than in debates. Husbands and wives disconnect, families break, children are further taught to repress who they are, continuing the patterns. Lives are fragmented rather than whole. It's epidemic.

We create our dramas everyday, and oh yes, we live with it. We can learn to resolve these patterns and go beyond them to our health and our power, or we can demonize the other guy while hiding behind denial. Either way, we'll get the consequences for our choices. I prefer growth and empowerment, if only for the ability to actually understand these dynamics, rather than feel like a victim of life.

Numbing behaviours of all kinds--including religion used as a way to numb who we are inside, as lucy pointed out--are our way of staying unconscious of our life experiences because we do not have the skills to cope with them. The only way to find the skills is to remove the behaviour, and create a vacuum--a necessity for the skills to come to one. We then rise to the occasion and find ways to adapt...it relies purely on our choice. Denial perpetuates the blindness and the imbalanced patterns.