Kurt Cobain and feminism

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  • reeferchief
    reeferchief Posts: 3,569
    More interestingly do you find it amazingly ironic that Chad Kroger who rips of nirvana and has gone on paper as saying if it wasnt for Nirvana and Kurt that nickleback would'nt exist is a chauvinistic pig who degrades women in many of his lyrics?
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    Well, I say once the artist defines the song's meaning...that pretty much does it. But I suppose for a "average" fan who hears the song but doesn't listen, it can be taken as something else.

    Oh come on! Just because the artist says it's one thing, doesn't mean that the listener is bound to that. Have some imagination...
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    know1 wrote:
    Oh come on! Just because the artist says it's one thing, doesn't mean that the listener is bound to that. Have some imagination...


    Well I never thought it was a love song but I'm sure I hold different meanings to songs that other people would be like "What the hell?" so yea, nothing is simply this and that.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    reeferchief wrote:
    More interestingly do you find it amazingly ironic that Chad Kroger who rips of nirvana and has gone on paper as saying if it wasnt for Nirvana and Kurt that nickleback would'nt exist is a chauvinistic pig who degrades women in many of his lyrics?

    maybe not amazingly ironic reefer, but i do find it incredibly offensive.
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    catefrances wrote:
    maybe not amazingly ironic reefer, but i do find it incredibly offensive.


    No shit. Some people just shouldnt be allowed in public.
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    here you go... pro-war pearljam poster ;)

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  • Vedderlution_Baby
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    meme wrote:
    here you go... pro-war pearljam poster ;)

    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v627/ggatta/?action=view&current=ferite.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1
    Damn! Very nice!
  • catefrances
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    pretty butterfly of war. :)
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
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    I just want to make sure I'm getting this right. The dude from nickelback is saying that the reason they're a bunch of asshole, no brained, cock jock pigs is because of Kurt cobain and Nirvana? Did I get that right?
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    I just want to make sure I'm getting this right. The dude from nickelback is saying that the reason they're a bunch of asshole, no brained, cock jock pigs is because of Kurt cobain and Nirvana? Did I get that right?

    i guess he's saying nirvana were an influence on them in the beginning. and perhaps nirvana were. but i think the message got lost in translation.
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
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    catefrances wrote:
    i guess he's saying nirvana were an influence on them in the beginning. and perhaps nirvana were. but i think the message got lost in translation.


    Oh okay. I guess you need to use anything as an excuse when you write shit like nickelback songs
  • SoonForgotten2
    SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    moeaholic wrote:
    one thing that really bugs the shit out of me about scott weiland is a lot of the interviews i've heard him do, he's chewing a huge wad of gum at the same time. it's almost impossible for him to talk around it.

    Better gum than the ol' crackpipe.

    As for Betterman, it tells a story. The message is clear from the lyrics. If that's your idea of love, then so be it. But that's the only way it's a "love song". I don't know how anyone can listen to that song and believe that it's a positive love song of any sort.
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  • hippiemom
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    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    Better gum than the ol' crackpipe.

    As for Betterman, it tells a story. The message is clear from the lyrics. If that's your idea of love, then so be it. But that's the only way it's a "love song". I don't know how anyone can listen to that song and believe that it's a positive love song of any sort.
    I'd be very afraid of marrying anyone who thought "Better Man" was a love song! Same thing with "Every Breath You Take." People used to play that at weddings all the time, it gave me the creeps.
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    I heard a story (I don't really know how true this is) but at a PJ concert some dude in the front row proposed to his chick and eddie saw. After eddie congratulated them he asked if they had any requests. They said "betterman". Long akward silence after the entire concert cringed.

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