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  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    onelongsong wrote:
    individual polygamy has produced better homes than any monogimus homes.

    you gotta be kidding me with that statement. you really believe that?
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    sponger wrote:
    you gotta be kidding me with that statement. you really believe that?

    from my experience; yes. unless of course the family has a maid that does all the cooking; cleaning; laundry; errands; etc; which would allow a parent to be a full time parent.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    sponger wrote:
    you gotta be kidding me with that statement. you really believe that?

    I believe it. It was mentioned in developmental psychology.
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I believe it. It was mentioned in developmental psychology.

    the one time i agree with you is the one time you don't post a link or something else for the non-believers.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    the one time i agree with you is the one time you don't post a link or something else for the non-believers.

    I'm sure I can find you a link :p
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Hahaha! This is classic, thanks for my laugh of the day :D
    onelongsong wrote:
    if you tell someone of religion that you are athiest; they feel sorry for you and maybe pray for you; which is an act of compassion to them.
    onelongsong wrote:
    why do you feel that you should "save" everyone that believes. why feel sorry for them? if they are your friends why do you have condensending feelings towards them?
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    hippiemom wrote:
    Hahaha! This is classic, thanks for my laugh of the day :D

    the one thing i've always stood for is equality. what is good for one is good for the other.
    he detests being felt sorry for yet feels sorry for those who don't agree with him. i didn't find this funny; i found it sad.
    i don't mind; nor have i ever opposed anyone feeling sorry for me because of my spirituality. i believe it's misplaced and misguided but just the same; i believe you feel how you feel and in this world of diminishing freedoms; i'll fight for my right to feel as i wish.
    i guess you missed the point.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I believe it. It was mentioned in developmental psychology.

    When a man is tapping all that ass 24/7 you know it's going to be a pretty stress free environment. ....Mommy why is daddy smiling all the time? I think he really loves us ;) ....

    Happy happy... joy joy...live and love the family...variety keeps the spicy in spice :D
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm sure I can find you a link :p

    you don't have to take the time. i was only making an observation. you backed up something i said and i thank you for that.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    When a man is tapping all that ass 24/7 you know it's going to pretty stress free environment. Mommy why is daddy smiling all the time? I think he really loves us ;) ....

    Happy happy... joy joy...live and love the family...variety keeps the spicy in spice :D


    i guess that explains the low divorce rate of polygamist families.
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    onelongsong wrote:
    the one thing i've always stood for is equality. what is good for one is good for the other.
    he detests being felt sorry for yet feels sorry for those who don't agree with him. i didn't find this funny; i found it sad.
    i don't mind; nor have i ever opposed anyone feeling sorry for me because of my spirituality. i believe it's misplaced and misguided but just the same; i believe you feel how you feel and in this world of diminishing freedoms; i'll fight for my right to feel as i wish.
    i guess you missed the point.

    If by "he" you meant me, then you didn't read my post.
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  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    onelongsong wrote:
    from my experience; yes. unless of course the family has a maid that does all the cooking; cleaning; laundry; errands; etc; which would allow a parent to be a full time parent.


    And that's a contradiction in itself. If having a maid can produce the same supposed results as having two wives, then the second wife in the two-wife marriage isn't really a second wife, and therefore it is not truly a two-wife marriage in terms of child rearing.

    Also, there are plenty of marriages where the father works while the mother stays at home and gets things done while the children are at school, so when the children come home from school, the mother is able to give attention to her children.

    To say that a polygamist marriage provides better child rearing than "ANY" monogamous marriage is to be just plain naive.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    onelongsong wrote:
    i guess that explains the low divorce rate of polygamist families.

    I agree. I'd totally be up for it.... Actually I don't see anything wrong with it.
    If everyone was willing and happy...man that's like the perfect case scenario in life . King of the jungle. Seems to work out for a lot of animal species. I think most actually...

    My take is it can't be unnatural if it's everywhere in nature...

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    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    onelongsong wrote:
    why do athiests have so much anger toward those of religion?

    i'm going to say because some religions have twisted the truth behind God.
    religious threads here turn into athiest trying to prove those of religion are wrong. why?

    because those people can't grab the concept of a perfect God, and also because people in general want to feel like their views are correct.
    where does this anger come from. if you tell someone of religion that you are athiest; they feel sorry for you and maybe pray for you; which is an act of compassion to them.

    i don't feel sorry for athiests, and i don't pray for them either. if they have a good heart, i appreciate that. i leave it up to God if He wants to reveal Himself to them.
    yet athiests can't wait to jump on someone trying to prove they're wrong. they disrespect that person and thier beliefs. are these the attributes of a "good" person?

    i couldn't care less if an athiest jumps on me to try and prove me wrong. they are swimming against the current on that one. they can disrespect my beliefs ALL they want, i leave the outcome to God. however, if they are disrespectful/nasty, i wouldn't call them a "good" person.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    sponger wrote:
    And that's a contradiction in itself. If having a maid can produce the same supposed results as having two wives, then the second wife in the two-wife marriage isn't really a second wife, and therefore it is not truly a two-wife marriage in terms of child rearing.

    Also, there are plenty of marriages where the father works while the mother stays at home and gets things done while the children are at school, so when the children come home from school, the mother is able to give attention to her children.

    To say that a polygamist marriage provides better child rearing than "ANY" monogamous marriage is to be just plain naive.
    There are also families where everyone participates in getting the chores done. My kids helped me clean, they helped in the kitchen, they helped in the garden ... we were together, we enjoyed one another's company, and they were learning how to run a household. When I was doing a job that the kids couldn't help with, they were playing with friends or learning to entertain themselves. The idea that surplus moms are required for a happy family is a little nutty.
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  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    Ahnimus wrote:
    What is inherently wrong with polygamy?

    I wouldn't have any problem being in a polgamist marriage just as long as each of my husbands realizes that he has to share me....that and hubby don't mind which one of my other dozen husbands is boinking me at that particular moment :)
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    prism wrote:
    I wouldn't have any problem being in a polgamist marriage just as long as each of my husbands realizes that he has to share me....that and hubby don't mind which one of my other dozen husbands is boinking me at that particular moment :)

    Aahh!! :D Exactly prism!! Sounds like utopia to me!!! ;):p:D
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  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    onelongsong wrote:
    i find homosexuality discusting. no religion involved. i see 2 guys kissing and i want to puke. men acting like women (to me) is pretending to be something they're not.
    onelongsong wrote:
    have you ever kissed a man romanticaly so that you can claim there's no difference or are you just talking?

    Have you? ;)
  • lephty
    lephty Posts: 770
    i am not sure what to call myself. i used to call myself atheist but now am leaning more towards agnostic. i really dislike organized religions. why you might ask?

    countless wars and lives have been lost because of a "belief" in something that can not be proven. most religious people that i have run into (even my best friend) have told me that i am going to hell cause i don't believe. meanwhile, i have probably lived a more "pure" life than most of them. is confessing sins better than not having any as a non-follower?

    my religion is better than yours arguments are pointless. there is no physical evidence of any god yet everyone that believes, believe that they have the right god to follow. religion is just one more thing that people can use to discriminate against someone else. people have enough "obvious" differences. looking at Christianity and its various divisions is funny to me.

    i try to enjoy life and make sure people do not get hurt by my actions or others actions for that matter. however i can have fun without worrying what my religions god will think of me!
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    sponger wrote:
    Originally Posted by sponger
    And that's a contradiction in itself. If having a maid can produce the same supposed results as having two wives, then the second wife in the two-wife marriage isn't really a second wife, and therefore it is not truly a two-wife marriage in terms of child rearing.

    Also, there are plenty of marriages where the father works while the mother stays at home and gets things done while the children are at school, so when the children come home from school, the mother is able to give attention to her children.

    To say that a polygamist marriage provides better child rearing than "ANY" monogamous marriage is to be just plain naive.

    maybe you know more that psychologists and researchers. i guess you couldn't follow that the maid example was only an analogy to show how a monogimus home could get the same results. if you bothered to do the slightest investigating; you would have found that both mother participate equally. if i can use another analogy; it's like a tag team.
    hippiemom wrote:
    There are also families where everyone participates in getting the chores done. My kids helped me clean, they helped in the kitchen, they helped in the garden ... we were together, we enjoyed one another's company, and they were learning how to run a household. When I was doing a job that the kids couldn't help with, they were playing with friends or learning to entertain themselves. The idea that surplus moms are required for a happy family is a little nutty.

    polygamist homes opperate the same way. the exception being that the kids learn more. partly due to having 2 teachers and two mums can offer twice the love as one.
    i'd like to hear you explain how having 2 mums is any nuttier than 2 men. in fact; how is it different from a lesbian couple raising children? you support that. the only difference i see is that there's a third teacher bringing a male influence into the mix.

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