US rejects ban on cluster bombs

Commy
Commy Posts: 4,984
edited February 2007 in A Moving Train
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_rejects_ban_on_cluster_bombs_02232007.html


Major countries like Britain and France have signed....apparently the US has to have all those unexploded ordinances lying around to remind the invaded country that they are a conquered people.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    can't say i'm much surprised by this piece of 'news' :(
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  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    Commy wrote:
    http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_rejects_ban_on_cluster_bombs_02232007.html


    Major countries like Britain and France have signed....apparently the US has to have all those unexploded ordinances lying around to remind the invaded country that they are a conquered people.


    Those UXO's are top priority for Sappers and EOD.

    We shouldn't ban them, they are extremely effective.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Commy wrote:
    http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_rejects_ban_on_cluster_bombs_02232007.html


    Major countries like Britain and France have signed....apparently the US has to have all those unexploded ordinances lying around to remind the invaded country that they are a conquered people.


    and then there's all the mines and uxo in panama and other latin american countries...in cases like panama we were even ordered to clean it up, but we haven't gotten around to it yet...

    and there's always the du weaponry we leave lying around kosovo, afghanistan, iraq....

    you are exactly right, it's used to remind them of their place

    can't be too surprised, we are above everyone else
    standin above the crowd
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    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
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    someone who seemed to feel the same
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  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    El_Kabong wrote:
    and then there's all the mines and uxo in panama and other latin american countries...in cases like panama we were even ordered to clean it up, but we haven't gotten around to it yet...

    and there's always the du weaponry we leave lying around kosovo, afghanistan, iraq....

    you are exactly right, it's used to remind them of their place

    can't be too surprised, we are above everyone else


    OMG LOL :rolleyes:
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sapperskunk wrote:
    OMG LOL :rolleyes:

    the medical community doesn't find it too funny

    you forgot to include a point
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    El_Kabong wrote:
    the medical community doesn't find it too funny

    Really? Cause I got this doctor friend that would love to hear how funny and off the wall your commentary is.

    Because that's funny as shit. :D
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sapperskunk wrote:
    Really? Cause I got this doctor friend that would love to hear how funny and off the wall your commentary is.

    Because that's funny as shit. :D


    what was funny?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    I would say that the US is careless and doesn't give a fuck. Taking it another step further by assuming that the US is purposely trying to remind people of their conquered status is just...i dunno....thoughtless drivel I guess.
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  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    El_Kabong wrote:
    what was funny?


    It's funny to see how someone can be so ideologically radical, that they fail to look at things from a different or larger perspective.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sponger wrote:
    I would say that the US is careless and doesn't give a fuck. Taking it another step further by assuming that the US is purposely trying to remind people of their conquered status is just...i dunno....thoughtless dribble I guess.


    well, no matter how you look at it it's disgusting
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    sponger wrote:
    I would say that the US is careless and doesn't give a fuck. Taking it another step further by assuming that the US is purposely trying to remind people of their conquered status is just...i dunno....thoughtless dribble I guess.


    That's good.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sapperskunk wrote:
    It's funny to see how someone can be so ideologically radical, that they fail to look at things from a different or larger perspective.


    i don't want to see the perspective that rationalizes poisoning a lot of ppl that had nothing to do w/ any reason for a war w/ du munitions
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    El_Kabong wrote:
    i don't want to see the perspective that rationalizes poisoning a lot of ppl that had nothing to do w/ any reason for a war w/ du munitions


    You think there's UXO in Iraq from the ground war?
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sapperskunk wrote:
    You think there's UXO in Iraq from the ground war?


    there is still du munitions from the first gulf war! might not be uxo, but it's just as bad
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    El_Kabong wrote:
    there is still du munitions from the first gulf war! might not be uxo, but it's just as bad


    That wasn't my question.

    Do you think there are still UXO's in IRAQ that are left over from the ground war?
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sapperskunk wrote:
    You think there's UXO in Iraq from the ground war?


    and actually, i found this as the 2nd or 3rd link on google

    http://aec.army.mil/usaec/publicaffairs/update/fall03/fall0301.html

    Part of that work has been removal of unexploded ordnance (UXO) throughout the country. Task Force Restore Iraqi Oil (RIO), the Army Corps of Engineers team working to rebuild a key component of the nation’s economy, found its work made even more difficult by the UXO challenge.
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    El_Kabong wrote:
    and actually, i found this as the 2nd or 3rd link on google

    http://aec.army.mil/usaec/publicaffairs/update/fall03/fall0301.html

    Part of that work has been removal of unexploded ordnance (UXO) throughout the country. Task Force Restore Iraqi Oil (RIO), the Army Corps of Engineers team working to rebuild a key component of the nation’s economy, found its work made even more difficult by the UXO challenge.


    So I take it your in agreement with me?

    There are no UXO's (that the US knows of) left in Iraq.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sapperskunk wrote:
    So I take it your in agreement with me?

    There are no UXO's (that the US knows of) left in Iraq.


    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cluster+bombs+iraq

    i don't know if they are all cleaned up or not and neither do you.

    what about the du munitions? am i not seeing the grand perspective of those?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    El_Kabong wrote:
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cluster+bombs+iraq

    i don't know if they are all cleaned up or not and neither do you.

    what about the du munitions? am i not seeing the grand perspective of those?

    That's why I said (that the US knows of). But I can safely say the vast majority of it was destroyed when I was there in 03/04.

    DU's a mother fucker. A very good weapon, but with adverse long term effects.

    To think we use these types of weapons to show are superiority is ridiculous. They are effective. BLU-42's are also psychological, but not in the way you think.
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    sapperskunk wrote:
    That's why I said (that the US knows of). But I can safely say the vast majority of it was destroyed when I was there in 03/04.

    DU's a mother fucker. A very good weapon, but with adverse long term effects.

    To think we use these types of weapons to show are superiority is ridiculous. They are effective. BLU-42's are also psychological, but not in the way you think.

    so you seem to know a bit about this...let me ask you a question that's been bothering me for a while now.


    How come the cluster canisters are yellow cans, and the food rations that the US distributes also happen to come in these similarly packaged containers? Was that just a fuckup on the design or what? little kids can't tell the difference...shit i probably couldn't.

    And it seems fairly obvious that if task forces have been created to clear UXO's that they are indeed a problem in Iraq. Not to mention a problem in a another dozen or so countries the US has been involved in.

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