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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    tybird wrote:
    Because you have to burn some type of fuel to turn the water into steam...and you have to have the infrastructure to capture the steam. The burning fuel will create emissions...unless you use nuclear power which has its own set of problems.

    Yes, you could heat the water by electricity...but the electricity has be generated in some form....most likely by burning coal...thus, creating emissions.
    All true... However, water naturally evaporates solar, it's slow.
    Also pressurized water evaporates very quickly.
    I'm sure there's a solution out there.
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  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    College elective Southeast MO State circa 1986.
    Yeah I'm an old fart

    sounds interesting, the only cool elective i took at UCSB was winetasting. i still use that knowledge to this day.
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    sweet adeline wrote:
    sounds interesting, the only cool elective i took at UCSB was winetasting. i still use that knowledge to this day.

    I would have taken that every semester :D
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    Commy wrote:
    He converts H2O into HHO, and then uses the Hydrogen for fuel, with water as the byproduct. Very clean process. Even saltwater can be used, with no adverse affects on the fuel cell.

    It's probably not, but just looking at HHO... isn't that in fact 2 "H's" and one "O" i.e. H2O?
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Commy, what about pollutants in the water, are they filtered first?
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  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    Commy wrote:
    He converts H2O into HHO, and then uses the Hydrogen for fuel, with water as the byproduct. Very clean process. Even saltwater can be used, with no adverse affects on the fuel cell.

    couple of things...
    —NASA's been using fuel cells since about 1965... they still have reliability issues.
    —Can you say Hindenburg...
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    godpt3 wrote:
    couple of things...
    —NASA's been using fuel cells since about 1965... they still have reliability issues.
    —Can you say Hindenburg...


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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    godpt3 wrote:
    —Can you say Hindenburg...

    I wouldn't worry too much about that, I mean yes Hydrogen is explosive, but so is gasoline (in its gaseous state), and that doesn't stop people from driving gas powered cars.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    All true... However, water naturally evaporates solar, it's slow.
    Also pressurized water evaporates very quickly.
    I'm sure there's a solution out there.
    Using the sun to evaporate that much water and have something to catch before it drifts away would require a huge and I mean HUGE amount of space and infrastructure.

    Pressurization would also require a machine operating on electricity or fossil fuel.
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    I wouldn't worry too much about that, I mean yes Hydrogen is explosive, but so is gasoline (in its gaseous state), and that doesn't stop people from driving gas powered cars.
    The problem is keeping in pressurized, like you see in the vehicles that run on LNG. All it takes is a very small leak in the system and an inconvenient spark.....BOOM!!!
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    tybird wrote:
    The problem is keeping in pressurized, like you see in the vehicles that run on LNG. All it takes is a very small leak in the system and an inconvenient spark.....BOOM!!!
    Same could be said of a gas powered car though.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Commy wrote:
    Same could be said of a gas powered car though.
    Both will explode under the right conditions, the pressurized gas is far more combustible than gasoline.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    tybird wrote:
    Both will explode under the right conditions, the pressurized gas is far more combustible than gasoline.


    True but gasoline is still quite volatile and it was a tough sell originally getting these on the road too.

    and Natural Gas dissapates quite quickly think of the number of natural gas leaks that occur daily in just the US that don't make the news... you've probably heard of virtually every major petrolium leak. Any kind of contained potential energy could be a potential problem... Imagine sitting in the Tesla super car on top of giant Lithium Ion batteries.... you can get a pretty nasty fire from that too. Even Compressed Air cars are dangerous.

    Any new technology is going to have problems. I think this is do able definately but I do wonder the issues like you have brought up and the new ones to come (like refuling) that are slightly under the radar. Even things like... what could this do to various water tables... where do pollutants in the water go etc. How are they lubricated...
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  • lephty
    lephty Posts: 770
    My3rdEye wrote:
    "They" are waiting for more quarters where "they" generate 40 BILLION dollar profits.

    Besides aren't we going to run out of water too anyway. Where the hell is California going to get water to fuel cars?

    We certainly need an alternative to gas (and not just because of the prices but because it's killing us all anyway with the emissions) but I prefer having water around to drink.

    I don't know the answer but encouraging people to ride bikes and take PT is a good start. We should pay people not to drive cars :)

    i did all the math and realized that it is now cheaper for me to take the train to work. so i went from driving 600 miles/week to about 50 miles/week~

    and to all those saying where will all that water come from? well duh! from the melting glaciers and ice in Antarctica and Greenland! we need to stop the rise of the ocean levels! :)

    also, in australia they are building the largest water desalination plant. not sure if its done yet as the show was a few years old. even if water was a temporary energy source until some other energy was found, it's probably better than oil.

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