Iraq - The worst story of the decade

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so am I. and I didnt even need to call them brown people.

    So what do I call white or black people?

    hmm...very confusing indeed.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    -some, not all problems in Iraq are being caused by the Iraqi's themselves (hatred among sunnis/shittes)....and by foriegn elements who are hostile to the U.S

    -hey are unfortunatelty backward that they are insisting on clinging onto some outdated religious hostilities.

    -If, and when, the Iraqis can civilize themselves and stop killing each other, then the kind and benevolent U.S policeman can go back home to America



    I even left in your wonderful spelling skills.

    O.k, so let's get this right.
    1. It's foreign elements who are hostile to the U.S and not the Iraqis themselves - who actually like the U.S army occupying their country.
    2. The Iraqis are a backward people and need to be educated in the ways of Americans.
    3. The U.S is there on a peacemaking mission designed to help Iraqi people become civilised and more American in their outlook on life.

    Please tell me If I've put any words in your mouth here.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    O.k, so let's get this right.
    1. It's foreign elements who are hostile to the U.S and not the Iraqis themselves - who actually like the U.S army occupying their country.
    2. The Iraqis are a backward people and need to be educated in the ways of Americans.
    3. The U.S is there on a peacemaking mission designed to help Iraqi people become civilised and more American in their outlook on life.

    Please tell me If I've put any words in your mouth here.

    what the fuck is with you steve. lets try to debate like adults? I cant even respond to this bullshit. grow up
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    So what do I call white or black people?

    hmm...very confusing indeed.

    Irish, Italian, canadian, african america, arab, etc

    I guess you were just raised as a racist, its not your fault. or maybe it is but I dont fucking care.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Whilst we're on the subject of Iraqis needing to be educated and civilised...I wonder when we'll see the first set of golden arches in Baghdad? And I wonder if they'll have a 'freedom burger' on the menu? :confused:
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Irish, Italian, canadian, african america, arab, etc

    I guess you were just raised as a racist, its not your fault. or maybe it is but I dont fucking care.

    What note is it that you're playing on that horn you keep toooting?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    What note is it that you're playing on that horn you keep toooting?

    zinnnnng your material has been off tonight. just sayin
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    zinnnnng your material has been off tonight. just sayin


    Oh please your personal opinion private agenda posts are overwhelming.

    but I'm still laughing like hell..hehe
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the US is trying to defeat a foreign element that came to fight from other countries.

    The foreign element is only about 10% of the insurgency according to the CIA.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    SundaySilence wrote:
    The foreign element is only about 10% of the insurgency according to the CIA.

    Also about half of the foreign element is coming from Saudi Arabia, not Iran or Syria as this administration and the media would like for us to believe.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    Also about half of the foreign element is coming from Saudi Arabia, not Iran or Syria as this administration and the media would like for us to believe.

    did you see the movie The Kingdom? I saw it yesterday. sure it was just a movie, but I think it was accurate. lots of hate over there.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    did you see the movie The Kingdom? I saw it yesterday. sure it was just a movie, but I think it was accurate. lots of hate over there.

    Saudi Arabia is a fucking powder keg just waiting to blow. If you haven't read it yet pick up Robert Baer's Sleeping with the Devil.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    So you're saying that there is no Iraqi insurgency against the U.S occupiers?

    not really no.

    its alot of this recently...el queda deliberately targeting innocent Iraqis.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/01/02/iraq.main/index.html

    Wednesday's attack in Baquba appeared to target members of a local anti-al Qaeda Awakening Council -- who were among the casualties.

    Awakening Councils are predominantly Sunni and are sometimes are composed of former militants. Many of them have been recruited by the U.S. military's "Concerned Local Citizen's Program" to work against al Qaeda in Iraq.

    In recent weeks, al Qaeda in Iraq has launched an aggressive attack campaign against Awakening Councils.

    The violence represents "perhaps one of the clearest indications of the importance that these Awakening movements and Concerned Local Citizens are having on improving the security situation," said Maj. Gen. Kevin Bergner, a U.S. military spokesman, according to the Associated Press.

    "The fact that al Qaeda is targeting them is clearly an indication ... that they are concerned about it and that this grass roots movement has changed the dynamic and is perhaps the clearest evidence of Iraqi citizens rejecting Taliban ideology," Bergner told AP.

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