Obama fans, I have to admit something....

acoustic guy · August 2008

I caught the second half of his speech last night and I was very very impressed.
I don't know if it was enough to vote for him but I am interested to see what would change in our country (if anything) if he was to become president.
Nothing else to say but I was impressed.

cincybearcat · August 2008

acoustic guy wrote:

I caught the second half of his speech last night and I was very very impressed.
I don't know if it was enough to vote for him but I am interested to see what would change in our country (if anything) if he was to become president.
Nothing else to say but I was impressed.

You caught the right half by the way...and I agree with you.

Uncle Leo · August 2008

acoustic guy wrote:

I caught the second half of his speech last night and I was very very impressed.
I don't know if it was enough to vote for him but I am interested to see what would change in our country (if anything) if he was to become president.
Nothing else to say but I was impressed.

I am NOT interested to see the change if McCain gets elected.

SVRDhand13 · August 2008

Are you surprised that you were impressed by his speech? This guy has been giving the best speeches (by far) since he came onto the political scene.

And yes, his speech was good. Why? Because he explained in detail what "Change" actually means and why McCain winning would be like a 3rd term for Bush. I don't agree with the second statement but he was probably able to convince a lot of people.

macgyver06 · August 2008

these senators have had the power to make the changes they are talking about without being president...lol what makes you think they are going to work harder when they are in control of the executive branch

SVRDhand13 · August 2008

macgyver06 wrote:

these senators have had the power to make the changes they are talking about without being president...lol what makes you think they are going to work harder when they are in control of the executive branch

There are 50 senators that are below the one president. Its pretty easy math to notice how much more power there is in the executive.

And now the Dems control Congress, which would make things much easier for a Dem President.

MrBrian · August 2008

SVRDhand13 wrote:

Are you surprised that you were impressed by his speech? This guy has been giving the best speeches (by far) since he came onto the political scene.

And yes, his speech was good. Why? Because he explained in detail what "Change" actually means and why McCain winning would be like a 3rd term for Bush. I don't agree with the second statement but he was probably able to convince a lot of people.

Someone shouldve showed his voting record and ask, what change?

DOSW · August 2008

macgyver06 wrote:

these senators have had the power to make the changes they are talking about without being president...lol what makes you think they are going to work harder when they are in control of the executive branch

Democratic Congress + Republican President = Next to impossible to agree on any legislature, and thus difficult have any progress

Democratic Congress + Democratic President = Much more possible to pass legislature and thus have significant progress

It's separation of powers 101. Tough concept. :rolleyes:

SVRDhand13 · August 2008

MrBrian wrote:

Someone shouldve showed his voting record and ask, what change?

Very true. That's the one thing I absolutely hate about Obama. Hey, Edwards went after him in a debate many months ago and that is pretty much forgotten so the American people must not care about that too much. But of course McCain will bring that all back up again.

freindlyfired · August 2008

those acceptances speeches really mean alot... think back to 2000 when someone was talking about bringing morality back to the white house.

g under p · August 2008

acoustic guy wrote:

I caught the second half of his speech last night and I was very very impressed.
I don't know if it was enough to vote for him but I am interested to see what would change in our country (if anything) if he was to become president.
Nothing else to say but I was impressed.

I saw it again too and the second half was the better half and it was very good. Ok overall.

Peace

decides2dream · August 2008

freindlyfired wrote:

those acceptances speeches really mean alot... think back to 2000 when someone was talking about bringing morality back to the white house.

the only 'morality' i care about is in regards to saving lives, and ending war......i don't care about your personal morality, nor do i want to see others' morality pushed on the agenda, and i sure as hell don't care about any president's sexcapades.

and obama IS an excellent speaker. charismatic and speaks to the points people care about and want to hear about.

blondieblue227 · August 2008

Am I the only one where I was going to vote for Obama before his speech last night, but now I’m having second thoughts?

In my opinion:
Too much McCain bashing.
Too many promises made.

ledvedderman · August 2008

macgyver06 wrote:

these senators have had the power to make the changes they are talking about without being president...lol what makes you think they are going to work harder when they are in control of the executive branch

How on earth are they to make changes with such a small majority in the Senate and a Republican President...it's impossible

mca47 · August 2008

I thought it was a good speech too.
He got into more of what he wants to do and how he'll do it, more so than in past speeches. It was good to see. It wasn't the typical "inspirational" speech he's so known for that doesn't say much. It wasn't as motivational, but better IMO because it got into so much more.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · August 2008

freindlyfired wrote:

those acceptances speeches really mean alot... think back to 2000 when someone was talking about bringing morality back to the white house.

deja vu.... I'm sure the tears were flowing then as well...

Its Evolution Baby · August 2008

blondieblue227 wrote:

Am I the only one where I was going to vote for Obama before his speech last night, but now I’m having second thoughts?

In my opinion:
Too much McCain bashing.
Too many promises made.

Would it have been better if he said my opponent is great and will do a great job and I will tell you nothing about my agenda. Just trust me I have one?

The speech wasn't geared for his supporters like me as it affirmed what I knew. It was trying to win the people on the fence. The middle class that are being told Obama is after there money for taxes.

I'm interested to see the response from the people on the fence about Obama and if he gained any more firm support.

I think everyone is going to see out of touch McCain is with the American People next week.

MonsterOfTheMidway · August 2008

I can't wait until the debates.

Obama will make ol' man McCain look silly.

Just like the Kennedy/Nixon debates make Nixon looks like an ugly weirdo.

MrBrian · August 2008

MonsterOfTheMidway wrote:

I can't wait until the debates.

Obama will make ol' man McCain look silly.

Just like the Kennedy/Nixon debates make Nixon looks like an ugly weirdo.

Really? Obama is weak, very weak when put on the spot. A written speech is where Obama is tops.

What would be nice is a Nader/Obama/McCain debate. I'm sure all Obama supporters would love to see it?

MonsterOfTheMidway · August 2008

MrBrian wrote:

Really? Obama is weak, very weak when put on the spot. A written speech is where Obama is tops.

What would be nice is a Nader/Obama/McCain debate. I'm sure all Obama supporters would love to see it?

Nader is garbage, number 1.

2) Obama still has about 19072907289270 times more charisma than McCain, thus making him look better on television.

MrBrian · August 2008

MonsterOfTheMidway wrote:

Nader is garbage, number 1.

2) Obama still has about 19072907289270 times more charisma than McCain, thus making him look better on television.

Nader is garbage?...Why would you even think that? Please, never use a seat belt again.

So it's not really about who would make a better leader, it's about who has the most charisma and looks the best on the tv?

Ok, you win.

MonsterOfTheMidway · August 2008

MrBrian wrote:

Nader is garbage?...Why would you even think that? Please, never use a seat belt again.

So it's not really about who would make a better leader, it's about who has the most charisma and looks the best on the tv?

Ok, you win.

Like I said, it happened in Kennedy/Nixon and I can see it happening again. I'm not saying that's my criteria, but some people do vote off of that.

And Nader is garbage. I saw him speak a couple of years ago, the man is off his rocker.

MrBrian · August 2008

MonsterOfTheMidway wrote:

And Nader is garbage. I saw him speak a couple of years ago, the man is off his rocker.

What did he say that would make you think that? Really, i'm curious. Did he start taking his clothes off and screaming "UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED!" while giving the speech?

MonsterOfTheMidway · August 2008

MrBrian wrote:

What did he say that would make you think that? Really, i'm curious. Did he start taking his clothes off and screaming "UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED!" while giving the speech?

Actually, yes he did. And Toronto? Can you even vote?

MrBrian · August 2008

MonsterOfTheMidway wrote:

Actually, yes he did. And Toronto? Can you even vote?

No,really what did he say?

RolandTD20Kdrummer · August 2008

I hear this a lot...why exactly is Nader considered crazy?

josevolution · August 2008

so what/who do you wan't to be your leader for the next 4yrs ,i don't know about all of you but i'm tired of getting slammed with out any vasaline by the current administration. I personally need a change anything has to be better than what we've had for the past 8yrs no ?? ,or am i nuts .

come to think about it all you all are nuts ....

Strangest Tribe · August 2008

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I hear this a lot...why exactly is Nader considered crazy?

Can you imagine Nader in the White House? I hope it's not painted with lead based paint he'd have to change that. Let's hope someone on his underpaid staff doesn't get a papercut he'd spend the next 3 years in court trying to sue the paper manufacturers to get them to put rubber strips on every sheet of paper so no ever gets cut again... That would triple the cost of paper but hey isn't it about the consumer?

fuck · August 2008

Strangest Tribe wrote:

Can you imagine Nader in the White House? I hope it's not painted with lead based paint he'd have to change that. Let's hope someone on his underpaid staff doesn't get a papercut he'd spend the next 3 years in court trying to sue the paper manufacturers to get them to put rubber strips on every sheet of paper so no ever gets cut again... That would triple the cost of paper but hey isn't it about the consumer?

are you stupid?

Strangest Tribe · August 2008

_outlaw wrote:

are you stupid?

usually

you still live with mom?

slightofjeff · August 2008

blondieblue227 wrote:

Am I the only one where I was going to vote for Obama before his speech last night, but now I’m having second thoughts?

In my opinion:
Too much McCain bashing.
Too many promises made.

The first third of his speech = lots of McCain bashing
The final third of his speech = I'm tired of all the negative politics as usual

It's like he was fucking having a one-man debate with himself.

I swear to God, most people seem to just fall under the spell of that preacher cadence that Obama uses in his speeches, and don't even listen to the words. It's sort of like wooing my newborn to sleep ... it doesn't matter if I'm speaking gibberish, so long as my voice has the right cadence to it.

Obama fans, I have to admit something....

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