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Obama fans, I have to admit something....

acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
I caught the second half of his speech last night and I was very very impressed.
I don't know if it was enough to vote for him but I am interested to see what would change in our country (if anything) if he was to become president.
Nothing else to say but I was impressed.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    acoustic guy wrote:
    I caught the second half of his speech last night and I was very very impressed.
    I don't know if it was enough to vote for him but I am interested to see what would change in our country (if anything) if he was to become president.
    Nothing else to say but I was impressed.


    You caught the right half by the way...and I agree with you.
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    acoustic guy wrote:
    I caught the second half of his speech last night and I was very very impressed.
    I don't know if it was enough to vote for him but I am interested to see what would change in our country (if anything) if he was to become president.
    Nothing else to say but I was impressed.

    I am NOT interested to see the change if McCain gets elected.
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,442
    Are you surprised that you were impressed by his speech? This guy has been giving the best speeches (by far) since he came onto the political scene.

    And yes, his speech was good. Why? Because he explained in detail what "Change" actually means and why McCain winning would be like a 3rd term for Bush. I don't agree with the second statement but he was probably able to convince a lot of people.
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    these senators have had the power to make the changes they are talking about without being president...lol what makes you think they are going to work harder when they are in control of the executive branch
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,442
    macgyver06 wrote:
    these senators have had the power to make the changes they are talking about without being president...lol what makes you think they are going to work harder when they are in control of the executive branch
    There are 50 senators that are below the one president. Its pretty easy math to notice how much more power there is in the executive.

    And now the Dems control Congress, which would make things much easier for a Dem President.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Are you surprised that you were impressed by his speech? This guy has been giving the best speeches (by far) since he came onto the political scene.

    And yes, his speech was good. Why? Because he explained in detail what "Change" actually means and why McCain winning would be like a 3rd term for Bush. I don't agree with the second statement but he was probably able to convince a lot of people.

    Someone shouldve showed his voting record and ask, what change?
  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    macgyver06 wrote:
    these senators have had the power to make the changes they are talking about without being president...lol what makes you think they are going to work harder when they are in control of the executive branch

    Democratic Congress + Republican President = Next to impossible to agree on any legislature, and thus difficult have any progress

    Democratic Congress + Democratic President = Much more possible to pass legislature and thus have significant progress

    It's separation of powers 101. Tough concept. :rolleyes:
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,442
    MrBrian wrote:
    Someone shouldve showed his voting record and ask, what change?
    Very true. That's the one thing I absolutely hate about Obama. Hey, Edwards went after him in a debate many months ago and that is pretty much forgotten so the American people must not care about that too much. But of course McCain will bring that all back up again.
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  • freindlyfiredfreindlyfired Posts: 297
    those acceptances speeches really mean alot... think back to 2000 when someone was talking about bringing morality back to the white house.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    acoustic guy wrote:
    I caught the second half of his speech last night and I was very very impressed.
    I don't know if it was enough to vote for him but I am interested to see what would change in our country (if anything) if he was to become president.
    Nothing else to say but I was impressed.

    I saw it again too and the second half was the better half and it was very good. Ok overall.

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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    freindlyfired wrote:
    those acceptances speeches really mean alot... think back to 2000 when someone was talking about bringing morality back to the white house.


    the only 'morality' i care about is in regards to saving lives, and ending war......i don't care about your personal morality, nor do i want to see others' morality pushed on the agenda, and i sure as hell don't care about any president's sexcapades.



    and obama IS an excellent speaker. charismatic and speaks to the points people care about and want to hear about.
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  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    Am I the only one where I was going to vote for Obama before his speech last night, but now I’m having second thoughts?

    In my opinion:
    Too much McCain bashing.
    Too many promises made.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    macgyver06 wrote:
    these senators have had the power to make the changes they are talking about without being president...lol what makes you think they are going to work harder when they are in control of the executive branch

    How on earth are they to make changes with such a small majority in the Senate and a Republican President...it's impossible
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,300
    I thought it was a good speech too.
    He got into more of what he wants to do and how he'll do it, more so than in past speeches. It was good to see. It wasn't the typical "inspirational" speech he's so known for that doesn't say much. It wasn't as motivational, but better IMO because it got into so much more.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    freindlyfired wrote:
    those acceptances speeches really mean alot... think back to 2000 when someone was talking about bringing morality back to the white house.

    deja vu.... I'm sure the tears were flowing then as well...
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  • Its Evolution BabyIts Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    Am I the only one where I was going to vote for Obama before his speech last night, but now I’m having second thoughts?

    In my opinion:
    Too much McCain bashing.
    Too many promises made.

    Would it have been better if he said my opponent is great and will do a great job and I will tell you nothing about my agenda. Just trust me I have one?

    The speech wasn't geared for his supporters like me as it affirmed what I knew. It was trying to win the people on the fence. The middle class that are being told Obama is after there money for taxes.

    I'm interested to see the response from the people on the fence about Obama and if he gained any more firm support.

    I think everyone is going to see out of touch McCain is with the American People next week.
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  • MonsterOfTheMidwayMonsterOfTheMidway Posts: 416
    I can't wait until the debates.


    Obama will make ol' man McCain look silly.

    Just like the Kennedy/Nixon debates make Nixon looks like an ugly weirdo.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    MonsterOfTheMidway wrote:
    I can't wait until the debates.


    Obama will make ol' man McCain look silly.

    Just like the Kennedy/Nixon debates make Nixon looks like an ugly weirdo.

    Really? Obama is weak, very weak when put on the spot. A written speech is where Obama is tops.

    What would be nice is a Nader/Obama/McCain debate. I'm sure all Obama supporters would love to see it?
  • MonsterOfTheMidwayMonsterOfTheMidway Posts: 416
    MrBrian wrote:
    Really? Obama is weak, very weak when put on the spot. A written speech is where Obama is tops.

    What would be nice is a Nader/Obama/McCain debate. I'm sure all Obama supporters would love to see it?


    Nader is garbage, number 1.


    2) Obama still has about 19072907289270 times more charisma than McCain, thus making him look better on television.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    MonsterOfTheMidway wrote:
    Nader is garbage, number 1.


    2) Obama still has about 19072907289270 times more charisma than McCain, thus making him look better on television.

    Nader is garbage?...Why would you even think that? Please, never use a seat belt again.

    So it's not really about who would make a better leader, it's about who has the most charisma and looks the best on the tv?

    Ok, you win.
  • MonsterOfTheMidwayMonsterOfTheMidway Posts: 416
    MrBrian wrote:
    Nader is garbage?...Why would you even think that? Please, never use a seat belt again.

    So it's not really about who would make a better leader, it's about who has the most charisma and looks the best on the tv?

    Ok, you win.


    Like I said, it happened in Kennedy/Nixon and I can see it happening again. I'm not saying that's my criteria, but some people do vote off of that.


    And Nader is garbage. I saw him speak a couple of years ago, the man is off his rocker.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    MonsterOfTheMidway wrote:

    And Nader is garbage. I saw him speak a couple of years ago, the man is off his rocker.

    What did he say that would make you think that? Really, i'm curious. Did he start taking his clothes off and screaming "UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED!" while giving the speech?
  • MonsterOfTheMidwayMonsterOfTheMidway Posts: 416
    MrBrian wrote:
    What did he say that would make you think that? Really, i'm curious. Did he start taking his clothes off and screaming "UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED!" while giving the speech?


    Actually, yes he did. And Toronto? Can you even vote?
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    MonsterOfTheMidway wrote:
    Actually, yes he did. And Toronto? Can you even vote?

    No,really what did he say?
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I hear this a lot...why exactly is Nader considered crazy?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,283
    so what/who do you wan't to be your leader for the next 4yrs ,i don't know about all of you but i'm tired of getting slammed with out any vasaline by the current administration. I personally need a change anything has to be better than what we've had for the past 8yrs no ?? ,or am i nuts .

    come to think about it all you all are nuts ....
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  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I hear this a lot...why exactly is Nader considered crazy?

    Can you imagine Nader in the White House? I hope it's not painted with lead based paint he'd have to change that. Let's hope someone on his underpaid staff doesn't get a papercut he'd spend the next 3 years in court trying to sue the paper manufacturers to get them to put rubber strips on every sheet of paper so no ever gets cut again... That would triple the cost of paper but hey isn't it about the consumer?
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    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    Can you imagine Nader in the White House? I hope it's not painted with lead based paint he'd have to change that. Let's hope someone on his underpaid staff doesn't get a papercut he'd spend the next 3 years in court trying to sue the paper manufacturers to get them to put rubber strips on every sheet of paper so no ever gets cut again... That would triple the cost of paper but hey isn't it about the consumer?
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  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    _outlaw wrote:
    are you stupid?

    usually

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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    Am I the only one where I was going to vote for Obama before his speech last night, but now I’m having second thoughts?

    In my opinion:
    Too much McCain bashing.
    Too many promises made.

    The first third of his speech = lots of McCain bashing
    The final third of his speech = I'm tired of all the negative politics as usual

    It's like he was fucking having a one-man debate with himself.

    I swear to God, most people seem to just fall under the spell of that preacher cadence that Obama uses in his speeches, and don't even listen to the words. It's sort of like wooing my newborn to sleep ... it doesn't matter if I'm speaking gibberish, so long as my voice has the right cadence to it.
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