Wonder how Ed feels about Obama......

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edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
............canceling a visit to the injured troops. You know since Eddie is such a big advocate for injured troops against the war. His excuse was humorous.
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    The initital story i heard, was he had cancelled a pre-planned visit to the troops in Germany after he was told by the Pentagon that the trip would violate a Pentagon policy prohibiting campaign stops on military installations. No doubt there are about 25 different versions of why he didn't though, floating around by now.

    Another non issue blown out of proportion. I guess when people don't have anything of substance to trash Obama with, anything will do. Obama was going to take a hit on this issue either way, so the smart thing to do would have been to visit the troops, get the credit and then take the hit for using the visit as a campaign stop. The old catch-22, dammed if he did, dammed if he didn't!

    A no win situation.

    Oh, and as to Ed, i hadn't really thought much about he will feel. I don't really care too much either. Love his music though ;)
  • Posts: 205
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    The initital story i heard, was he had cancelled a pre-planned visit to the troops in Germany after he was told by the Pentagon that the trip would violate a Pentagon policy prohibiting campaign stops on military installations. No doubt there are about 25 different versions of why he didn't though, floating around by now.

    Another non issue blown out of proportion. I guess when people don't have anything of substance to trash Obama with, anything will do. Obama was going to take a hit on this issue either way, so the smart thing to do would have been to visit the troops, get the credit and then take the hit for using the visit as a campaign stop. The old catch-22, dammed if he did, dammed if he didn't!

    A no win situation.

    Oh, and as to Ed, i hadn't really thought much about he will feel. I don't really care too much either. Love his music though ;)

    Too true on all accounts.
    Many many wonderful shows, since day one.
    Love ya Punkinfur
  • Posts: 68
    Ed has not been that overt about Obama. Either he is finally learning to tone it down and pick his battles wisely or maybe he actually wasn't suckered by the mind numbing rhetoric for "change" everyone on here bought by the f'n pound. How's your change feelin now?
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    the story that i heard was that Obama was told that the media would not be allowed into the hospital while he visits the troops. when he heard that he decided to forget it.
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  • Posts: 4,069
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I guess when people don't have anything of substance to trash Obama with, anything will do.
    oh no, don't worry. there are plenty of things that make Obama look like trash. ;)
  • Posts: 4,741
    Thecure wrote:
    the story that i heard was that Obama was told that the media would not be allowed into the hospital while he visits the troops. when he heard that he decided to forget it.

    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/snubbing_wounded_troops.html
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    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/591/
  • Posts: 2,130
    rocketman wrote:
    How's your change feelin now?

    Pretty good, thanks.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Posts: 2,374
    I have no idea why who Vedder votes for or what he thinks of politicians, matters to anyone.
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    rocketman wrote:
    Ed has not been that overt about Obama. Either he is finally learning to tone it down and pick his battles wisely or maybe he actually wasn't suckered by the mind numbing rhetoric for "change" everyone on here bought by the f'n pound. How's your change feelin now?


    are you serious?
    have you not been to any of his west coast solo shows, or any of the recent east coast pearl jam shows? heard any boots? he has been VERY overt. he just wasn't as overt as the rest of the band from the get-go.


    i believe someone posted here about how an obama poster was walked across the stage at one, maybe all, of his solo gigs? he has mentioned obama, his belief, a few times at EVERY east coast show i've attended this year. pretty 'overt' to me.


    beyond that...

    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    The initital story i heard, was he had cancelled a pre-planned visit to the troops in Germany after he was told by the Pentagon that the trip would violate a Pentagon policy prohibiting campaign stops on military installations. No doubt there are about 25 different versions of why he didn't though, floating around by now.

    Another non issue blown out of proportion. I guess when people don't have anything of substance to trash Obama with, anything will do. Obama was going to take a hit on this issue either way, so the smart thing to do would have been to visit the troops, get the credit and then take the hit for using the visit as a campaign stop. The old catch-22, dammed if he did, dammed if he didn't!

    A no win situation.

    Oh, and as to Ed, i hadn't really thought much about he will feel. I don't really care too much either. Love his music though



    agree with all of the above, most especially the last statement. :)
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  • Posts: 68
    decides2dream wrote:
    are you serious?
    have you not been to any of his west coast solo shows, or any of the recent east coast pearl jam shows? heard any boots? he has been VERY overt. he just wasn't as overt as the rest of the band from the get-go.


    i believe someone posted here about how an obama poster was walked across the stage at one, maybe all, of his solo gigs? he has mentioned obama, his belief, a few times at EVERY east coast show i've attended this year. pretty 'overt' to me.


    beyond that...






    agree with all of the above, most especially the last statement. :)

    I was at one of his shows and he made one Obama comment. And it wasn't that overt compared to what he was doin in 2004. Big difference. Thats all Im sayin.
  • Posts: 11,175
    _outlaw wrote:
    oh no, don't worry. there are plenty of things that make Obama look like trash. ;)
    Quiet down you ;)

    Well, for one, he doesn't like old people. I love old people, so he's lost my vote.

    Zomg! Teh obamanation iz going to kill ur nice old white ladiez and frow dem under teh bus :eek:

    When he's elected President, you better lock up your mommas and grammas.
  • Posts: 689
    rocketman wrote:
    I was at one of his shows and he made one Obama comment. And it wasn't that overt compared to what he was doin in 2004. Big difference. Thats all Im sayin.

    Atually more overt now then in 04. don't think he mentioned Kerry once.

    He just wanted the giant douche out ot the WH.

    This year it is the giant douche candidate and the much much mcuh better candidate compared to Bore and Lurch previously.
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    cornnifer wrote:
    Pretty good, thanks.

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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    ;)

    Please don't modify my posts. Even with the winking faced guy, i don't appreciate it.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Posts: 270
    only caught one solo show on the west coast (berkeley I)...

    he mentioned not wanting to be too overtly political -- and then a giant banner was unfurled and walked across the stage behind him. one of the funnier things i've seen at a concert actually. however, it's certainly not subtle.
  • Posts: 14,977
    rocketman wrote:
    I was at one of his shows and he made one Obama comment. And it wasn't that overt compared to what he was doin in 2004. Big difference. Thats all Im sayin.



    not to point out the obvious, however, the 2004 tour was a VOTE FOR CHANGE tour. it wasn't even a pearl jam tour per se. it was in support of a political ideaology, so i WOULD totally expect 'overt.'


    this year, was a pearl jam tour. no other agenda. making ANY comment, even just one, is overt. he is expressing his politics and desires by saying even one word of support to obama, or any candidate.


    you don't see it like that, fair enough. that's all i'm sayin'.

    nothinghead wrote:
    only caught one solo show on the west coast (berkeley I)...

    he mentioned not wanting to be too overtly political -- and then a giant banner was unfurled and walked across the stage behind him. one of the funnier things i've seen at a concert actually. however, it's certainly not subtle.



    i've heard about that, and i think it's awesome. :D

    i know at the DC show, while not beating the audience over the head with it, most definitely made a few comments, and in direct support of obama, that was clear. same at one/both MSGs. hartford and mansfield I, i don't remember specific comments per se.
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  • Posts: 4,069
    decides2dream wrote:
    i know at the DC show, while not beating the audience over the head with it, most definitely made a few comments, and in direct support of obama, that was clear. same at one/both MSGs. hartford and mansfield I, i don't remember specific comments per se.
    I think it may have been MSG II where at the end of Wishlist, he pretty much sang about how he wishes Obama would be president, or something.

    That was a better piss break than Even Flow. :p
  • Posts: 6,388
    Thecure wrote:
    the story that i heard was that Obama was told that the media would not be allowed into the hospital while he visits the troops. when he heard that he decided to forget it.
    Source?
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  • Posts: 7,762
    rocketman wrote:
    Ed has not been that overt about Obama.

    You must have missed the giant "Obama" banner he kept trotting out on his solo tour, eh?

    And the way he keeps sneaking his name into "All Along the Watchtower" and various tags?
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