Sen.Clinton and John Kerry..Why Hire them?

MrBrian
MrBrian Posts: 2,672
edited November 2008 in A Moving Train
Does anyone really want to see any of them in the new Obama admin?

Well i'm sure some will like that, but really..Can anyone really consider them 'change'? 'New'?

More Pro Iraq war, Pro Israel, Pro Patriot Act politicians.

Does America have anyone else?....and let's say one of those two get hired for sec of state or another high position, do we give Obama another pass?

All we hear are those two names....Clinton, Kerry, Clinton, Kerry, like Obama has to put them into his admin, why!?
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  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    I don't think they will. They're making news cause they're the popular names. I could always be wrong, but I don't think we'll see them in the next administration's cabinet. Although as I've said, I've been wrong before.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Lord, I hope not.....that would suck all of the change out of the Obama admin.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    senator clinton - aye ... senator kerry - aye ...
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I hope not...

    While it is Washington, and I'm sure that there will be some more Clinton retreads or longtime insiders hired, I am hoping to get a bit of new blood and outside ideas into this administration.

    But for secretary of state, it might have to be someone like Kerry or Clinton. The person must have a decent relationship with Biden, and someone who is somewhat known on a global level and knows what's going on in the world politically.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    change you can believe in.....
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  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    Obama must love Lincoln and his cabinet; he seems to be repeating exactly what he did.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    God I hope not.
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    By Nedra Pickler, The Associated Press

    WASHINGTON - Democratic officials say president-elect Barack Obama is considering former primary election rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Richardson to be his secretary of state.


    The officials say Obama met with Richardson today in Chicago, a day after meeting with Clinton. Richardson is the governor of New Mexico and has an extensive foreign policy resume.

    He was former president Bill Clinton's ambassador to the United Nations and has conducted freelance diplomacy as governor in such hot spots as Sudan and North Korea.
    Both meetings were held at Obama's transition office in Chicago and kept secret until after they were over.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081114/world/obama_69
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrBrian wrote:
    By Nedra Pickler, The Associated Press

    WASHINGTON - Democratic officials say president-elect Barack Obama is considering former primary election rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Richardson to be his secretary of state.


    The officials say Obama met with Richardson today in Chicago, a day after meeting with Clinton. Richardson is the governor of New Mexico and has an extensive foreign policy resume.

    He was former president Bill Clinton's ambassador to the United Nations and has conducted freelance diplomacy as governor in such hot spots as Sudan and North Korea.
    Both meetings were held at Obama's transition office in Chicago and kept secret until after they were over.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081114/world/obama_69

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    tybird wrote:
    Lord, I hope not.....that would suck all of the change out of the Obama admin.


    impossible...there's so much of it to go around.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    MrBrian wrote:
    Does anyone really want to see any of them in the new Obama admin?

    Well i'm sure some will like that, but really..Can anyone really consider them 'change'? 'New'?

    More Pro Iraq war, Pro Israel, Pro Patriot Act politicians.

    Does America have anyone else?....and let's say one of those two get hired for sec of state or another high position, do we give Obama another pass?

    All we hear are those two names....Clinton, Kerry, Clinton, Kerry, like Obama has to put them into his admin, why!?

    they are strong personalities that will argue their point, don't believe the right wing nutjob hype about them, this whole BS liberal is bad thing, they could invaluable. They aren't yes people. I doubt Bush ever heard no, except when Cheney was putting him in his place.
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  • PJ_Saluki
    PJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    Apparently New York Times columnist Gail Collins thinks Sen. Clinton should get the job.
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  • DixieN
    DixieN Posts: 351
    I think Clinton would be excellent. 18 million people voted for her because they saw intelligence, courage and leadership. They weren't wrong. Think about this...how many times does the word "Clinton" come up in relation to Obama and his new team? White House Chief of Staff...ex-Clinton admin. Obama is practically hiring the Clinton team outright. He may as well do something fresh...hire a Clinton outright.

    I also think Bill Richardson would be excellent as Secretary of State. He has great foreign relations experience. Btw, he's ex-Clinton admin. I think I see a pattern developing. America can't lose for winning if the choice rests between them. The embarrassment of riches continues for the Democrats.

    Obama is showing excellence in leadership (yet again) in considering his ex-rivals as team mates. These people are too talented to dismiss. Squandering available talent is the purview of the Bush administration, not the purview of the Obama administration. That's definitely change
  • DixieN
    DixieN Posts: 351
    PJ_Saluki wrote:
    Apparently New York Times columnist Gail Collins thinks Sen. Clinton should get the job.

    That was a super column! It really tickled me. Thanks for posting.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    DixieN wrote:
    I think Clinton would be excellent. 18 million people voted for her because they saw intelligence, courage and leadership. They weren't wrong. Think about this...how many times does the word "Clinton" come up in relation to Obama and his new team? White House Chief of Staff...ex-Clinton admin. Obama is practically hiring the Clinton team outright. He may as well do something fresh...hire a Clinton outright.

    I also think Bill Richardson would be excellent as Secretary of State. He has great foreign relations experience. Btw, he's ex-Clinton admin. I think I see a pattern developing. America can't lose for winning if the choice rests between them. The embarrassment of riches continues for the Democrats.

    Obama is showing excellence in leadership (yet again) in considering his ex-rivals as team mates. These people are too talented to dismiss. Squandering available talent is the purview of the Bush administration, not the purview of the Obama administration. That's definitely change

    You should write political satire....lol

    j/k
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • DixieN
    DixieN Posts: 351
    I should. It would pay better than my current job. :) However, I think just writing political truths is more fun.
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    MrBrian wrote:
    Does anyone really want to see any of them in the new Obama admin?

    Well i'm sure some will like that, but really..Can anyone really consider them 'change'? 'New'?

    More Pro Iraq war, Pro Israel, Pro Patriot Act politicians.

    Does America have anyone else?....and let's say one of those two get hired for sec of state or another high position, do we give Obama another pass?

    All we hear are those two names....Clinton, Kerry, Clinton, Kerry, like Obama has to put them into his admin, why!?

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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    impossible...there's so much of it to go around.
    Incorrect.....Clinton and Kerry simply suck that much!!! :D
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    I guess the correct phrase to use against Obama is 'More of the Same'. Which of course was one of his top phrases used while running against McCain.

    You know the first warning sign we had that Obama was no good was when he refused to support the impeachment of Bush saying that it was 'divisive' and that Bush had not done enough wrong to deserve to be impeached.

    Yet Obama himself will say that Bush screwed this country. He went on and on about how much bad Bush is/was and openly went after Bush on his policies. Yet when the time came to do something about it, he backed away.

    But his supporters kept silent and gave him a pass, infact they didnt even touch that topic.

    Then he picks Biden, this pro Iraq war 'Bush fooled me' kinda guy. He get's a pass, then Rahm, which I dont even have the energy to type all the problems with him....But anyway, Obama gets another pass.

    Of course look who he has as advisors!..and Obama still gets another pass.

    Now you have Hillary and Kerry considered for another top position.

    Soon Obama supporters will have to put the 'hope' away and face the reality of the situation. The reality of what they have voted for. Who they have voted for.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    20 MOTHERFUCKIN YEARS of Bush/Clinton, and it looks like we're getting 4 more. When is Jeb gonna be ready to make a run?

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