Government report: Al Qaeda strongest since September 11, 2001

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  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    they were never all that strong.. this isn't news.

    They are about as strong as Hell's Angels for example.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    Tough shit. Its absolutely moronic. We know where they are, so lets go get them? I dont understand. They can see them as whatever they want, I say lets go get them. Today.

    seriously? you would support a war with pakistan? I want al queda destroyed more then anybody, I would even like to see these tribal areas carpet bombed back to the stone age. fuck em. but lets think about this for a second.

    going into pakistan would mean all out war with them. mursharff's government would most likely be toppled and some extremist group (or sheik) would take over and have nukes. India, who might feel the need to protect themselves, could get involved. a country of 170,000,000 million pissed off muslims would be in chaos.

    we would go into the tribals areas. kill and bombs thousands. probably take huge causalities ourselves due to the fact that this area is one of the most remote areas on earth. we can just roll in all of our tanks and troops easily. its mountainous, no roads, no infrastructure, and the people who live there have been there for hundreds of years. they would have an advantage for sure.

    yes we would kill many, but then what? have a country with nukes, and as fucked up as pakistan with no government, and a pissed off neighbor with nukes as well.

    its just not as easy as, "lets go in the tribal area and get them"

    so many people on here are sooo anti bush and anti war but are the first to say "we should go to war with pakistan" makes no sense.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    jlew24asu wrote:
    seriously? you would support a war with pakistan? I want al queda destroyed more then anybody, I would even like to see these tribal areas carpet bombed back to the stone age. fuck em. but lets think about this for a second.

    going into pakistan would mean all out war with them. mursharff's government would most likely be toppled and some extremist group (or sheik) would take over and have nukes. India, who might feel the need to protect themselves, could get involved. a country of 170,000,000 million pissed off muslims would be in chaos.

    we would go into the tribals areas. kill and bombs thousands. probably take huge causalities ourselves due to the fact that this area is one of the most remote areas on earth. we can just roll in all of our tanks and troops easily. its mountainous, no roads, no infrastructure, and the people who live there have been there for hundreds of years. they would have an advantage for sure.

    yes we would kill many, but then what? have a country with nukes, and as fucked up as pakistan with no government, and a pissed off neighbor with nukes as well.

    its just not as easy as, "lets go in the tribal area and get them"

    so many people on here are sooo anti bush and anti war but are the first to say "we should go to war with pakistan" makes no sense.

    Al Qaeda can not be destroyed. That is the kind of thinking that brings us and keeps us to where we are.

    We can however, work on the kind of cooperation that leads to a world where Al Qaeda is not accepted and helped the mainstream in any country.


    then their impact will be minimized
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Al Qaeda can not be destroyed. That is the kind of thinking that brings us and keeps us to where we are.

    We can however, work on the kind of cooperation that leads to a world where Al Qaeda is not accepted and helped the mainstream in any country.


    then their impact will be minimized


    I completely agree. going into pakistan is not the answer. neither is being in Iraq but thats a different story.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I want al queda destroyed more then anybody, I would even like to see these tribal areas carpet bombed back to the stone age. fuck em.

    This is radical militant mentality. It's the same mentality used when terrorist disregard civilian, or on a larger scale, human life to acheive a desired effect. It never solves anything..it only creates more of the problem we were already seeing. If we want to see a world without terrorism and war, this kind of thinking has to be denounced by society.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    The plan is to make us hate somebody and want to kill them so the war can rage on...so they can erase our borders in the name of terrorism...so they can create a living hell on earth for the poor and control everything.

    It's a huge crock of shit and I'm not buying this little terrorism game anymore.

    They create it....innocent people get sucked into it....and by doing so, they put us all right in the middle of it and subject to it.

    It's fucking evil. Stop supporting it.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    This is radical militant mentality. It's the same mentality used when terrorist disregard civilian, or on a larger scale, human life to acheive a desired effect. It never solves anything..it only creates more of the problem we were already seeing. If we want to see a world without terrorism and war, this kind of thinking has to be denounced by society.

    I was just exaggerating. I want terrorists killed and destroyed but I wouldnt support a war with pakistan, even the tribal regions.

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