Government report: Al Qaeda strongest since September 11, 2001
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well, I guess it's safe to say the "War on Terror" is pretty much a complete failure...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/11/al.qaeda.report/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Government report: Al Qaeda strongest since September 11, 2001
* Story Highlights
* Despite counterterrorism efforts, al Qaeda has regained strength, report says
* Report says al Qaeda has found a safe haven in the tribal areas of Pakistan
* Sen. Harry Reid: It's no surprise al Qaeda has been able to reorganize
* FBI has created a group of agents, analysts to examine new threats
From Kelli Arena
CNN Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Al Qaeda is the strongest it has been since the aftermath of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, a new U.S. government analysis concludes, according to a senior government official who has seen it.
Despite a campaign of military action and counterterrorism operations, al Qaeda has regained its strength and found safe haven in the tribal areas of Pakistan, the report says, according to counterterrorism officials familiar with the report.
The five-page intelligence analysis remains classified and was prepared for senior U.S. policymakers. It was not issued in response to a specific threat.
Two intelligence officials said the report's finding are similar to what is expected to be in the National Intelligence Estimate anticipated to be released later this summer. The NIE is the intelligence community's collective analysis of pressing national security issues.
The White House's view is that "over the past six years, we have prevented attacks from al Qaeda by taking the fight to them," a senior administration official said. "But they are an enemy that adapts."
This new report backs up warnings by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and other officials that al Qaeda remains a serious threat and that the United States is vulnerable despite the numerous security changes made since September 11, 2001. VideoWatch Chertoff explain his "gut feeling" »
Chertoff said Wednesday, however, that there is no "specific, credible information" that terrorist attacks on the United States are imminent.
In a House Armed Services Committee hearing Wednesday, several senior intelligence officials talked about how the terrorist group has found refuge in parts of Pakistan.
"We actually see the al Qaeda central being resurgent in their role in planning operations," John Kringen, head of the CIA's intelligence directorate, testified at the hearing Wednesday. "They seem to be fairly well settled into the safe haven in the ungoverned spaces of Pakistan there. We see more training. We see more money. We see more communications."
Thomas Fingar, deputy director of national intelligence, told lawmakers that al Qaeda leaders hiding in Pakistan are able to maintain relationships "with affiliates throughout the Middle East, North and East Africa and Europe."
In a statement, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said it was no surprise al Qaeda has been able to reorganize and rebuild "given President Bush's stubborn dedication to keeping our overextended military mired in an Iraqi civil war."
"It is a travesty that Osama bin Laden remains at large nearly six years after the 9/11 attacks and appears to have found new sanctuary to operate freely in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border regions," Reid said. "The Bush administration and most congressional Republicans would rather stubbornly stick with a flawed strategy and fight a war that senior military leaders say cannot be won militarily, than adapt to fighting the enemy who attacked us six years ago."
In recent weeks, counterterrorism authorities have expressed concern about the possibility of another attack on U.S. soil, saying several factors, such as the thwarted terror plots in Britain, have them on edge.
The FBI has created a small group of agents and analysts to examine new threats and leads over the summer, a bureau official told CNN. The group, which was created several weeks ago, is supplementing what agents and others are also doing in field offices across the country and is an example of how the government is trying to make sure no credible lead is missed, the official said.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/11/al.qaeda.report/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Government report: Al Qaeda strongest since September 11, 2001
* Story Highlights
* Despite counterterrorism efforts, al Qaeda has regained strength, report says
* Report says al Qaeda has found a safe haven in the tribal areas of Pakistan
* Sen. Harry Reid: It's no surprise al Qaeda has been able to reorganize
* FBI has created a group of agents, analysts to examine new threats
From Kelli Arena
CNN Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Al Qaeda is the strongest it has been since the aftermath of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, a new U.S. government analysis concludes, according to a senior government official who has seen it.
Despite a campaign of military action and counterterrorism operations, al Qaeda has regained its strength and found safe haven in the tribal areas of Pakistan, the report says, according to counterterrorism officials familiar with the report.
The five-page intelligence analysis remains classified and was prepared for senior U.S. policymakers. It was not issued in response to a specific threat.
Two intelligence officials said the report's finding are similar to what is expected to be in the National Intelligence Estimate anticipated to be released later this summer. The NIE is the intelligence community's collective analysis of pressing national security issues.
The White House's view is that "over the past six years, we have prevented attacks from al Qaeda by taking the fight to them," a senior administration official said. "But they are an enemy that adapts."
This new report backs up warnings by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and other officials that al Qaeda remains a serious threat and that the United States is vulnerable despite the numerous security changes made since September 11, 2001. VideoWatch Chertoff explain his "gut feeling" »
Chertoff said Wednesday, however, that there is no "specific, credible information" that terrorist attacks on the United States are imminent.
In a House Armed Services Committee hearing Wednesday, several senior intelligence officials talked about how the terrorist group has found refuge in parts of Pakistan.
"We actually see the al Qaeda central being resurgent in their role in planning operations," John Kringen, head of the CIA's intelligence directorate, testified at the hearing Wednesday. "They seem to be fairly well settled into the safe haven in the ungoverned spaces of Pakistan there. We see more training. We see more money. We see more communications."
Thomas Fingar, deputy director of national intelligence, told lawmakers that al Qaeda leaders hiding in Pakistan are able to maintain relationships "with affiliates throughout the Middle East, North and East Africa and Europe."
In a statement, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said it was no surprise al Qaeda has been able to reorganize and rebuild "given President Bush's stubborn dedication to keeping our overextended military mired in an Iraqi civil war."
"It is a travesty that Osama bin Laden remains at large nearly six years after the 9/11 attacks and appears to have found new sanctuary to operate freely in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border regions," Reid said. "The Bush administration and most congressional Republicans would rather stubbornly stick with a flawed strategy and fight a war that senior military leaders say cannot be won militarily, than adapt to fighting the enemy who attacked us six years ago."
In recent weeks, counterterrorism authorities have expressed concern about the possibility of another attack on U.S. soil, saying several factors, such as the thwarted terror plots in Britain, have them on edge.
The FBI has created a small group of agents and analysts to examine new threats and leads over the summer, a bureau official told CNN. The group, which was created several weeks ago, is supplementing what agents and others are also doing in field offices across the country and is an example of how the government is trying to make sure no credible lead is missed, the official said.
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Who knows it seems that they are the real flip-floppers in this whole debacle. One week they help with intel, the next week they may be supporting the "enemy".
Such a fucked up situation.
and they have Nukes!
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Does this mean that 'Terror' is as great as the United States? Or that the United States is a terroble as 'Terror'?
Hail, Hail!!!
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Maybe the next time we want to do something... we shouldn't market it as a 'WAR'. Or we should declare War on something we can actually defeat... like a 'War On Stretch Pants with Words Printed Across The Ass'... or a 'War On Dudes Who Wear Golf Shirts With The Collar Up'... or a 'War On Brussel Sprouts'.
Hail, Hail!!!
Haha.
A war on the daily slaughter of the pronunciation of "library" (liberry).
A war on people who say "I could care less" instead of the proper "I couldnt care less".
So subtly is the fume of life designed
to clarify the pulse and cloud the mind
and leave us once again, undone.. possessed.
...
Be yourself- those who mind dont matter
and those who matter dont mind.
I was reading the article below and wondering to myself, how the fuck is there a safe haven along the Pakistan and Afghan border? Seriously, WTF? Why dont we just storm the area with all we have and destroy everything? If this is where these fuckers are training, destroy it all. Bomb the mountains into plains!!!!! Tell the local tribes that are in charge of the areas that these people have killed 3,000+ Americans, and we want to destroy them. If they have a problem with it, too fucking bad. Its not an option. We are telling you. Here we come.
"The United States considers Musharraf an ally in the fight against al Qaeda and has been reluctant to pressure him to do more to control the border areas, where authorities believe both al Qaeda and the Taliban, vanquished from Afghanistan, have regrouped."
Fuck that. Tell him we're coming to do it ourself, today, right this fucking minute. If he doesnt like it, tough shit.
We know what happens when we sit and wait to do shit when it comes to Al Qaeda. It bites us in the ass. I am a dolt and I have figured that out.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/13/terror.threat/index.html
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Well according to some, you can't go into the tribal areas of Pakistan for some unknown reason(s). Like that wouldn't put a spike in the heart of the terror freaks over there. Oh no, they have nukes. Well I guess when the Muslim country of Pakistan wanted a weapon of mass distraction back in the day it was okay with the countries who reap profits from selling the beautiful things that you need to ramp up the old nu-cu-leer program. Must have put a smile on somebody's face when they had noticed that another stable country got the bomb.
Ah the war on terror. The perpetual fear for the people to swallow with a spoonful of sugar. Imagine if you had bombs raining down on your heads for a couple of years to "change" things for the good. Would seem cheap in comparison to having a bomb or two go off. Of course some people won't want to think that way. But we are all different.
So keep cheering for that war on a word, that is according to this article doing not such a good job on curbing the bad Al-Q and company from still being able to do what they do best. Strange that even they are not blowing up the oil fields at all. Must be getting paid by some government to keep up the show and thrill the adoring fans back home.
Can anyone explain this to me? I am not being sarcastic. I hear the same shit over and over with no reasons why.
It's the same Rules of Engagement we deployed in Viet Nam. We could not go into Laos and Cambodia... with regular forces... to stop the supplies coming in from the North.
The Pakistanis don't want to go in there because the Pakistanis see them as heroes.
Hail, Hail!!!
Nothing good will ever come out of telling a group of people tough shit.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
it's sorta funny because on Dec 26, 2001, Fox News reported he was dead:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
(new video contains no new footage, by the way, just new audio)
They are about as strong as Hell's Angels for example.
seriously? you would support a war with pakistan? I want al queda destroyed more then anybody, I would even like to see these tribal areas carpet bombed back to the stone age. fuck em. but lets think about this for a second.
going into pakistan would mean all out war with them. mursharff's government would most likely be toppled and some extremist group (or sheik) would take over and have nukes. India, who might feel the need to protect themselves, could get involved. a country of 170,000,000 million pissed off muslims would be in chaos.
we would go into the tribals areas. kill and bombs thousands. probably take huge causalities ourselves due to the fact that this area is one of the most remote areas on earth. we can just roll in all of our tanks and troops easily. its mountainous, no roads, no infrastructure, and the people who live there have been there for hundreds of years. they would have an advantage for sure.
yes we would kill many, but then what? have a country with nukes, and as fucked up as pakistan with no government, and a pissed off neighbor with nukes as well.
its just not as easy as, "lets go in the tribal area and get them"
so many people on here are sooo anti bush and anti war but are the first to say "we should go to war with pakistan" makes no sense.
Al Qaeda can not be destroyed. That is the kind of thinking that brings us and keeps us to where we are.
We can however, work on the kind of cooperation that leads to a world where Al Qaeda is not accepted and helped the mainstream in any country.
then their impact will be minimized
I completely agree. going into pakistan is not the answer. neither is being in Iraq but thats a different story.
This is radical militant mentality. It's the same mentality used when terrorist disregard civilian, or on a larger scale, human life to acheive a desired effect. It never solves anything..it only creates more of the problem we were already seeing. If we want to see a world without terrorism and war, this kind of thinking has to be denounced by society.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
It's a huge crock of shit and I'm not buying this little terrorism game anymore.
They create it....innocent people get sucked into it....and by doing so, they put us all right in the middle of it and subject to it.
It's fucking evil. Stop supporting it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I was just exaggerating. I want terrorists killed and destroyed but I wouldnt support a war with pakistan, even the tribal regions.