Obama refuses the pledge of allegance

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  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
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  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Obama refuses to put his hand over heart and pledge to America. And you want to vote for this fool?
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo&feature=related
    yes.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Spinbrett wrote:
    but this isnt some kindergarten teacher, this is someone that wants to be president. Obama also refuses to wear the USA flag pin. Why want to run a country you dont even like?

    So not wearing a flag pin = not liking a country? With logic like that, who needs common sense?

    I don't wear a flag pin, have a yellow ribbon on my car, or a flag in front of my house, that doesn't mean I don't like the country any less than you do?

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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Spinbrett wrote:
    but this isnt some kindergarten teacher, this is someone that wants to be president. Obama also refuses to wear the USA flag pin. Why want to run a country you dont even like?

    Do you have a fucking flag pin on right now? When was the last time you saw ANY of the presidential candidates wearing a fucking flag pin on their lapel? Let me clue you in on something. SEAN HANNITY IS AN IDIOT.
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    flywallyfly wrote:
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    ROTFLMAO! i've never seen this one. Absofuckinglutely hilarious!
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Off with his head for not performing a useless gesture!

    Maybe next time he puts his hand on his heart, he'll solve all the worlds real problems.

    I say cut the bullshit and get to the point. It's just a silly song.

    The rest of them have their hands on their hearts only because they are brown nosing their way into power.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Spinbrett, please address the issue of the American flag being on any form of clothing, pin or sticker, is against it's very ideals.

    So, why be down on a guy who is actually respecting the code of the American flag?
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  • Joe2TheRevenge
    Joe2TheRevenge Posts: 904
    if the biggest problem conservatives can come up with has to do with lapel pins and hand placement, they are clearly at the bottom of the barrell of things to complain about. and it's hilarious.

    Stick to your hillary bashing all you like, but Obama is about to be elected your president and there is nothing you can do about it.
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  • Given2Fly...SD
    Given2Fly...SD Posts: 146
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Obama refuses to put his hand over heart and pledge to America. And you want to vote for this fool?
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo&feature=related

    even if your statement was made with any truth or liability it shouldn't matter. Its not like he is disrespecting anyone or his country. he has the freedom to do as he pleases and I think it makes a statement...if your statement was true.
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  • Joe2TheRevenge
    Joe2TheRevenge Posts: 904
    BOOOM wrote:
    even if your statement was made with any truth or liability it shouldn't matter. Its not like he is disrespecting anyone or his country. he has the freedom to do as he pleases and I think it makes a statement...if your statement was true.

    Isn't the right to do what you want with your hands part of that "freedom" and "liberty" thing we're supposedly fighting for?

    Funny how freedom is not so important when you dislike someone.

    It's that whole "do whatever you want, as long as i approve of it" mentality that the current administration has been peddling for years.
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  • Spinbrett
    Spinbrett Posts: 251
    joe, Obama has no chance of winning. He has no experience, no policy, raised in an anti-white church, etc. etc.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Spinbrett wrote:
    joe, Obama has no chance of winning. He has no experience, no policy, raised in an anti-white church, etc. etc.

    So are you going to answer my question about how the flag is not to be on articles of clothing?
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  • DixieN
    DixieN Posts: 351
    blackredyellow wrote:
    A couple thoughts:

    1) It was the national anthem, not the pledge of allegiance there fool.

    2) With that singing, I would have probably put my hands over my ears instead of my heart.

    3) I can't remember the last time I put my hand over my heart when standing for the national anthem. You act like he was sitting down talking to someone what it was being sung.

    And here he is leading the pledge of allegiance in the Senate (with his hand over his heart):
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=svo9mutE6TM&feature=related


    We get it Spin, you don't like the guy and wouldn't vote for him if he was the only candidate running. At least act like an adult and bring up current events or relevant things.

    Regardless, the whole Pledge thing is overblown. There are a lot of good people who don't say it for many reasons, among them religious reasons--in fact, primarily religious reasons, if you leave out the "I'm too lazy to say it" reason. If you've ever watched a high school classroom, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone with their hand over their heart saying the Pledge, on top of it, making the outrage over not saying it highly hypocritical. Of course, it's not really young people that make the most hay out of the Pledge recital. I typically recite the Pledge, but leave out the part of "one nation, under God," since I don't believe that part. Call me an agnostic--'cuz I am. But, I'm not really a liar. So, anyway. I get to watch people say and not say the Pledge on a daily basis in my job. It's not exactly a huge deal to see another American making a choice unique to them over it. Good Americans all over the place can choose to say it or not and not have it actually indicate anything about how good of a citizen or person they are.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Spinbrett wrote:
    joe, Obama has no chance of winning. He has no experience, no policy, raised in an anti-white church, etc. etc.

    I really think the mods need to check some i.p addresses around here. I think they'll find a few duplicates. That's all.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    chiefojibwa wrote:
    here, i'll answer for him

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  • jwillmo
    jwillmo Posts: 471
    Spinbrett wrote:
    joe, Obama has no chance of winning. He has no experience, no policy, raised in an anti-white church, etc. etc.
    Hehehehe. I wondered how long you could keep this up before the racism started. White power!

    I'm sure once Obama is elected you'll complain about "those people" stealing white people's jobs. :)

    And whoever posted the Bush pick putting his hand over his gut, thank you. I'll have to use that one next time someone brings up this stupid pointless shit.

    You know, sometimes I wish some people would just flip a coin to figure out who they were going to vote for, it would make more sense than some of the parameters people set to determine whether or not they would vote for someone.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jwillmo wrote:
    You know, sometimes I wish some people would just flip a coin to figure out who they were going to vote for

    Given the 50/50 partisan nature of most people's politics, that's basically how they do vote today.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    SpinBret...
    Dude.. I take it you have NEVER been to a sporting event. There are people who don't remove their hats... who order over priced beers... squirt mustard on their hot dogs... and piss in very stinky restrooms during the National Anthem. Do you question THEIR patriotism, too?
    If you believe patriotism comes from bullshit gestures and salutes... you are missing the boat... completely.
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    If you are going to criticize Obama... criticize him on his contradictory voting record or the fact that he says a lot... but you really don't get a clear picture of his goals. Something related to politics.
    Going after these types of cheap swift boat shots makes you appear... well... for lack of a better phrase, like a moron who knows nothing of politics except for what he sees on the cable networks or hears on Talk Radio.
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  • boxwine_in_hell
    boxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    blackredyellow wrote:
    A couple thoughts:

    1) It was the national anthem, not the pledge of allegiance there fool.

    2) With that singing, I would have probably put my hands over my ears instead of my heart.

    3) I can't remember the last time I put my hand over my heart when standing for the national anthem. You act like he was sitting down talking to someone what it was being sung.

    And here he is leading the pledge of allegiance in the Senate (with his hand over his heart):
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=svo9mutE6TM&feature=related

    We get it Spin, you don't like the guy and wouldn't vote for him if he was the only candidate running. At least act like an adult and bring up current events or relevant things.

    All good points. And you know what? I actually think the pledge of allegiance is bullcrap. I'm sure the Nazi's made their citizens pledge "allegiance" as well. We're lucky we have the opportunity to do or not do ridiculous social customs in this country as we see fit. Obama could take a dump on the flag as far as I'm concerned and I couldn't give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut, to quote a great man.
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  • Spinbrett
    Spinbrett Posts: 251
    look at the bigger picture.....you are comparing a drunk pissing at a ballgame to a senator trying to become president. Apples and oranges.

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