Edwards kicked ass last night

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stupidcorporatewhore
stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
Hillary and Obama bickered a lot, then edwards chimed in and was scoring on them all night!

Hillary turned in a worthy performance

Obama seemed kinda awkward

Gotta get past the haircut guys.

for my money, edwards is the best electable democrat.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    stupidcorporatewhore wrote:
    Hillary and Obama bickered a lot, then edwards chimed in and was scoring on them all night!

    Hillary turned in a worthy performance

    Obama seemed kinda awkward

    Gotta get past the haircut guys.

    for my money, edwards is the best electable democrat.

    for your money maybe. but america does not want a socialist as president. but he did look better then to other 2 idiots bickering at each other.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    stupidcorporatewhore wrote:
    Hillary and Obama bickered a lot, then edwards chimed in and was scoring on them all night!

    Hillary turned in a worthy performance

    Obama seemed kinda awkward

    Gotta get past the haircut guys.

    for my money, edwards is the best electable democrat.


    you understand it was just them 3 on the television show right? there are more people running that get excluded from these things because they refuse to promise favors to corporations.


    all three of those people last night as far as i am concerned...can go to hell.

    and shame on you for participating in it.

    you stupidcorporatewhore

    :)
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    he did stay out of the fray...


    clinton is doing this shit on purpose... i really dont like her style of politics... her and her husband keep flaoting out bullshit and obama has to constantly explain it or point it out as untrue...

    they know that of he has a clean platform and doesnt get caught up in "personal" politics that he will run wawy with this thing...

    typical clinton politics... i think it is goint to burn her though... people are tired of this shit and want real action and platforms... not cadidiate bickering...

    i was very disturbed by what i saw in that degate last night... and CNN did a horrible job keeping any direction last night


    terrible
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    were any policies of theirs discussed last night :)


    YOU FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I really don't know who won. I don't think any of them were on top of their games. I don't think Hillary did herself any favors, Obama showed he could take a beating and still come out alive, and Edwards is starting to move to the middle of the two and setting himself up for any position in eithers administration.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    my2hands wrote:
    he did stay out of the fray...


    clinton is doing this shit on purpose... i really dont like her style of politics... her and her husband keep flaoting out bullshit and obama has to constantly explain it or point it out as untrue...

    they know that of he has a clean platform and doesnt get caught up in "personal" politics that he will run wawy with this thing...

    typical clinton politics... i think it is goint to burn her though... people are tired of this shit and want real action and platforms... not cadidiate bickering...

    i was very disturbed by what i saw in that degate last night... and CNN did a horrible job keeping any direction last night


    terrible

    thats a good point. Dirty politics work and the positive guy will lose every time because he gets put on the defensive. also worked on McCain when he got killed by Bush.

    lesson learned.
  • sweetpotato
    sweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    "Y'all do realize that there are three people in this debate?" :D

    I think Edwards showed himself for what he is- above the bickering, a natural leader, someone to watch and someone who can win.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    sweetpotato wrote:
    "Y'all do realize that there are three people in this debate?" :D

    I think Edwards showed himself for what he is- above the bickering, a natural leader, someone to watch and someone who can win.

    Anyone in the third position can play the "above the bickering" card. Especially when you drew 4% in the last primary.
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  • sweetpotato
    sweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Anyone in the third position can play the "above the bickering" card. Especially when you drew 4% in the last primary.

    doesn't change the fact that neither of the other two have a snowball's chance of beating a repugnican.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    sweetpotato wrote:
    doesn't change the fact that neither of the other two have a snowball's chance of beating a repugnican.

    I think Obama would have the best chance in November. He has sparked something in independents that would cause them to vote for him in November. I think Obama would have a tough time w/ McCain though since both of them get a lot of their support from independents.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    sweetpotato wrote:
    doesn't change the fact that neither of the other two have a snowball's chance of beating a repugnican.

    Obama certainly has a chance at beating a Republican. Hillary does as well if head-to-head polls are to be believed. Edwards does not. Edwards has as much chance of winning this election as Ron Paul does. I've said it before. His anti-business schtick plays well with leftists, but not with middle America or independents.

    Edwards supporters are delusional. He has done shitty in every race so far, and is supposed to lose in his birth state as well. They don't even want to claim him. He'll come in a distant 3rd in South Carolina. He'll come in a distant 3rd in Florida. Show me any indicators (that aren't Huffington or Alternet or Utne)that project Edwards winning the nomination let alone the presidential election. It ain't gonna happen. In head to head polling pitting the dems agains reps, Obama and Clinton do much better against just about every rep candidate than Edwards.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    for your money maybe. but america does not want a socialist as president. but he did look better then to other 2 idiots bickering at each other.


    translation: I like the pro war candidates who bicker better.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    translation: I like the pro war candidates who bicker better.

    enough with your fascination with me. you are the biggest war wonger I have ever seen. its all you talk about.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    enough with your fascination with me. you are the biggest war wonger I have ever seen. its all you talk about.

    Ok Mr Snow...yeah I'm a war monger.

    Do you ever get dizzy from all that relentless spin?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    Obama is the only one who has a chance of beating McCain. His "new style" of politics is a breath of fresh air for most people, and they will give him a pass on issues they don't see eye to eye with him, if he will change the nature of politics in Washington and unite an ailing country.

    Hillary will get destroyed against McCain in the general election for her stance on the war and the fact that half the country hates her already. Her statement of "suspending disbelief" towards Patreus will be about as damning as Bush's "mission accomplished".

    Her logic that the surge hasn't accomplished anything will be ripped to shreads in the court of public opinion - especially come November when Iraq has seen a year's worth of relative stability. The arguement that the governement there hasn't reconciled is also easily shot down when compared to the time it takes most nations to form a solid governement, void of iraq's problems. Hell, it took the US many years to hammer out the constitution after the revolution was over. Even so, Americans will take an inept government in Baghdad over suicide bombers, jihadist and war lords any day.

    Most American's understand this isn't Somalia or Vietnam, and pulling troops out and letting the nation decend into chaos will have tremendous negative repurcussions that can't be swept under the rug. Iraq simply cannot be conveniently forgoten once we leave.

    As long as there is relatively stability and we are making slow, but steady progress - then American's will want to keep our troops there. America loves a winner and hates a loser. If they think we can win, they will give it a shot. Right now, it looks like we may be able to pull it off, albeit it will take a long time.
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    jlew24asu wrote:
    for your money maybe. but america does not want a socialist as president. but he did look better then to other 2 idiots bickering at each other.

    Why is it people say this stuff? Edwards is no socialist. i'm not an Edwards supporter (though i'd settle for him). But for fuck's sake the guy isn't a socialist. Actually, i wouldn't mind a socialist, but Edwards isn't one.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Anyone in the third position can play the "above the bickering" card. Especially when you drew 4% in the last primary.

    And NOT being the one the clinton machine is slandering with outright lies and total fabrications also helps. Obama can't be faulted for defending himself. Fuck the clintons and their lies and scandlous behavior, and, if America can't see through their shitscreen, than fuck America to. i swear we may all be screwed.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    cornnifer wrote:
    And NOT being the one the clinton machine is slandering with outright lies and total fabrications also helps. Obama can't be faulted for defending himself. Fuck the clintons and their lies and scandlous behavior, and, if America can't see through their shitscreen, than fuck America to. i swear we may all be screwed.

    I think you are right. People will keep buying this "where's the beef?" thing w/ Obama, while not even thinking to ask Hillary the same question. Hillary proposes "universal health care" and makes it seem like it will be provided to everyone. Wrong. You still have to pay for it, and it leaves many people in the same boat they are in now. Why aren't people calling her on this.

    If we elect Clinton and McCain as the party choices, then we deserve what we get.
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  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    cornnifer wrote:
    And NOT being the one the clinton machine is slandering with outright lies and total fabrications also helps. Obama can't be faulted for defending himself. Fuck the clintons and their lies and scandlous behavior, and, if America can't see through their shitscreen, than fuck America to. i swear we may all be screwed.


    Agreed, just thinking of Hillary winning makes me want to puke. The headlines read today "Clinton: Obama looking for a fight". Basically Hillary says Obama came to the debate last night looking for a fight. Give me a break. She and her scumbag husband can slander Obama into the ground, but when he tries to defend himself on a national stage - he is "looking for a fight"?

    Please, people - Billary is the same thing as Bush/Rove dressed in a different suit. Who in the hell is rooting for them and why? Are you kidding me?
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I think you are right. People will keep buying this "where's the beef?" thing w/ Obama, while not even thinking to ask Hillary the same question. Hillary proposes "universal health care" and makes it seem like it will be provided to everyone. Wrong. You still have to pay for it, and it leaves many people in the same boat they are in now. Why aren't people calling her on this.

    If we elect Clinton and McCain as the party choices, then we deserve what we get.

    Also, she tried to pass her healthcare plan once before and got absolutely NOWHERE with it! Call her on that. It would suffer the same fate as it did the first time. She won't be elected in the general, of course, so it doesn't really matter. Obama's healthcare plan actually makes sense and he has a better than average chance of pushing it through. People need to wake up.
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