Last Nights Debate.

I 100% agree with you. I will be looking foward to that heads down bow that all of the Democrats will be facing when they realize they screwed up as badly as the Republicans have the past 8 years. ( I still would never have voted for Gore or Kerry)

polaris wrote:

sooo ... let's see here:

*you have a GOP candidate who represents the party that just administered 8 horrible years of governance
*a party that has nominated a neo-conservative with no knowledge or idea of what she's doing for vp
*a presidential nominee who lost the debate on substance and style and actually used a racist comment on national tv
*a platform of basically continuing the same lines as bush

and yet one would still vote for mccain: that to me adds up to true partisanship ...

You show me 5 REAL facts as to how he is a mirror image of the last 8 years, how she lost the debate, and as to how Obama is going to change ANYTHING and I will respect this statement

StrangestTribe27 wrote:

You show me 5 REAL facts as to how he is a mirror image of the last 8 years, how she lost the debate, and as to how Obama is going to change ANYTHING and I will respect this statement

1. voting record
2. the nomination of sarah palin is akin to nominating GWB: someone without a clue but appeals to the religious right of the party's base
3. his stance on war
4. his stance on the economy
5. the same people who are the architects of the GOP are still there - they haven't left

sarah palin lost the debate because she didn't answer any questions with any substance - biden continuously attacked mccain on his record and she not once defended it ... she had canned cheeky responses aimed at a target audience that are not interested in substance ...

as for obama - one of the biggest problems you partisan types (on both sides) have is that you automatically think that if one does not support mccain - he supports the other guy ... that is the fundamental problem with the electoral system in the US ...

in any case - if i was a true conservative who was keen on fiscal responsiblity and lower taxes - how can you ignore the GOP's record for the last year with uncontrolled spending amounting to huuuge federal defecits????? ... how?? ... just because they put another face up there - you think that would actually change? ...

Gonzo1977 wrote:

I don't know what's worse...The fact that you voted for Bush twice, or the fact that you'd actually go back and vote him in again.

The Conservative Right never ceases to amaze me.

I wasn't old enough to vote for him either election. This will be my first

saveuplife wrote:

I said I thought Obama won the debate. I also think he will win the Presidency. Personally, I think he will do an awful job, that's just an opinion though. On top of that I prefer the Republican platform because I lean right. Although I think Obama is an excellent speaker, I think he has little substance behind his rhetoric. I think McCain is simply OK. All that combined leads me to lean Republican. If you call that partisan... fine. I don't think I'm being partisan at all. I looked at the race objectively... I even said the candidate you prefer won the debate... but, the debate is not how I make up my mind. I take idiosyncratic traits and combine them with platform to make up my mind.

As for your comments, they are simply one-sided.

what aspects of the republican performance of the 8 years suits you? ... are you pro-war? pro defecits? what is it?

and again - partisan types need to realize this isn't north vs. south or east vs. west ... there are more than 2 sides ... we've been going back and forth on palin for the last week and i dunno how many times i've stated that i would not vote for barack obama ... so, it's not like i was pulling for one guy or the other ... what i do know is that the GOP performance the last 8 years has been piss poor by anyone's standard unless u are big oil or build missles ... and to hear you say you would still vote republican because u lean right is basically saying you will vote republican always ... that is the definition of partisanship ...

Please don't confuse me with this StrangestTribe27.

long red wrote:

what racist comment are you referring to? if it's "that one," then, good god, dont you think you're being just a TAD over-sensitive?

maybe ... it's all very speculative - but based on other things he's said and the fact i believe he is trying to pander to a specific base ... i would say it's racist ... but that's just my opinion ...

StrangestTribe27 wrote:

No I know that they're are people out there who do not approve of either of them. I am one of those people. Believe me when I say this, McCain was my last choice for the GOP candidate, with exception of Huckabee. I need to work better on my emotional skills in expressing this haha. I just get so sick of Democratic and Republican comments that have no stand point. I apologize to Polaris for my harsh comment. I just want to know where people come up with their conclusions, because so many are shifted by the media and whatnot. Once, again, I apologize across the board.

dude ... on this board - nothing that you wrote earlier is anywhere close to being considered harsh ... it was a fair post and i responded accordingly ... no need to apologize whatsoever ...

long red wrote:

maybe? you SAID he used a racist comment. I think you should be able to tell me what racist comment he used. if it's so racist, what's to speculate?

you asked if it was a over-sensitive - i said maybe ... the racist comment he used was "that one" ... it's speculative because it is up to the individual to decide the context of that statement ... is john mccain going to come out and say what that context is? ... i highly doubt it ...

so, it is left up to the individual to decide ...

saveuplife wrote:

Pro-war? Come on, man. You are obviously fired up, but do you have to go there?

I am not pro-war. I am not pro-deficits. That said I am pro-defense. I am pro-tax-cuts. I am pro-spending cuts. And I agree with the Republican take on morals.... with a few exceptions (ie death sentence).

I don't always vote Republican though..... so you are wrong.

Take a deep breath and calm down. Your prefered candidate will be in office soon.

haha ... i am more than calm i can assure ... so, calm enough that i can tell that you haven't read a thing i've written! ...

in any case - those two issues will define the last 8 years under bush ... a vote for the GOP is a vote for those two issues ... so, the three things you are Pro for - u got one ... tax cuts ...