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why is it I want to see Chris Wallace die?0
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Kenny Olav wrote:why is it I want to see Mike Wallace die?
Hey Kenny, what do you think about Matt Gonzalez? Do you see him picking up where Nader leaves off?If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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Abookamongstthemany wrote:Hey Kenny, what do you think about Matt Gonzalez? Do you see him picking up where Nader leaves off?
dammit! You quoted Mike Wallace before I could correct my mistake... it's his son Chris that I wished death upon. haha... i kid of course, or that's what my conscience tells me.
anyway, do I see Matt Gonzalez running for President for the next four elections? is that what you mean? i think he's a good guy. i think he should concentrate on winning a local election. it's too bad he barely lost the race for mayor of San Fran.
i really don't know what is the best way to challenge the current electoral system. i think Nader is out there raising important issues. but his running for President doesn't seem effective anymore.0 -
macgyver06 wrote:fell in love with Ralph Nader...
like they have with the other 3 candidates.
haha, I believe there was once a time where he was seen as sane. Even Ed loved him.Don't let the world bring you down, not everyone here is that fucked up and cold. Remember why you came and while you're alive, experience the warmth before you grow old.
Best two days of my life: Oasis at MSG and Pearl Jam at the Gorge.0 -
American politics have officially become a fucking JOKE...
Case in Point: All 3 Candidates courting the WWF Wrestling vote!!!
Are you fucking KIDDING ME??? These fuckers are WATCHING WRESTLING... what makes anyone think they will actually go out and vote??? And seriously... do you want some dumb fuck who thinks the Iron Shiek is real to cancel out your well-thought out and reasoned ballot???
I rest my case.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Kenny Olav wrote:dammit! You quoted Mike Wallace before I could correct my mistake... it's his son Chris that I wished death upon. haha... i kid of course, or that's what my conscience tells me.
anyway, do I see Matt Gonzalez running for President for the next four elections? is that what you mean? i think he's a good guy. i think he should concentrate on winning a local election. it's too bad he barely lost the race for mayor of San Fran.
i really don't know what is the best way to challenge the current electoral system. i think Nader is out there raising important issues. but his running for President doesn't seem effective anymore.
I hope he runs for something more national. He's bright and enthusiastic. I like having a choice that I can really get behind.If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde0 -
PearlsGirl wrote:haha, I believe there was once a time where he was seen as sane. Even Ed loved him.
Well I can see no reason people wouldnt see him as sane. He's interviews are always spot on. He's the underdog but he is an articulate and very intelligent. I know that based on what he has to say not spin I've seen on tv.If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde0 -
He's got a knuckly face. That's a photoshopper's nightmare. Ain't gonna happen.0
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A 20someThing Approval rating for President The Worst President In The History Of Worst Presidents... even LOWER Approval ratings for Congress.
Q: What does that mean?
A: The American voters are fucking IDIOTS!!!
Why?
Because WE vote these LOSERS into office.
Then, we bitch about it. WE are to BLAME because we get the poor leadership we keep voting for.
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So.. this election, i am voting for ANYONE who is not the incumbant. I don't care if I think they are doing a good job... the way things are, they are part of a spoiled barrel of rotting fruit. i am voting for the person i believe will bring a fresh infusion of REPRESENTATION into the political leadership... not the same ols 12% approval rating team.
This way... i can honestly bitch about a Ted Kennedy or John Warner being lifetime Senators... because i refuse to take part in this bullshit we go through every 2 years. I am taking control and exercisine my power of TERM LIMITS. Beacuse WE have the POWER to control... we are just too fucking stupid to realize it.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!0 -
macgyver06 wrote:fell in love with Ralph Nader...
like they have with the other 3 candidates.0 -
Cosmo wrote:A 20someThing Approval rating for President The Worst President In The History Of Worst Presidents... even LOWER Approval ratings for Congress.
Q: What does that mean?
A: The American voters are fucking IDIOTS!!!
Why?
Because WE vote these LOSERS into office.
Then, we bitch about it. WE are to BLAME because we get the poor leadership we keep voting for.
...
So.. this election, i am voting for ANYONE who is not the incumbant. I don't care if I think they are doing a good job... the way things are, they are part of a spoiled barrel of rotting fruit. i am voting for the person i believe will bring a fresh infusion of REPRESENTATION into the political leadership... not the same ols 12% approval rating team.
This way... i can honestly bitch about a Ted Kennedy or John Warner being lifetime Senators... because i refuse to take part in this bullshit we go through every 2 years. I am taking control and exercisine my power of TERM LIMITS. Beacuse WE have the POWER to control... we are just too fucking stupid to realize it.
we should have a binding "NONE OF THE ABOVE" choice on the ballot which, if it wins, would force new elections.0 -
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Abookamongstthemany wrote:Well I can see no reason people wouldnt see him as sane. He's interviews are always spot on. He's the underdog but he is an articulate and very intelligent. I know that based on what he has to say not spin I've seen on tv.
See, for me, I see Ralph Nader as a person who doesn't have a clear set of ideas. It takes a lot for me to be pursuaded by a candidate, and it seems as though Mr. Nader's beliefs are neither for, nor against the ideals of the Democratic Party and the GOP. He disagrees with both, and for most Americans, politics is confusing enough, and he just makes it more complicated. He works well in taking away votes from the Democratic party. This year, we need those votes, John McCain isn't our biggest problem now.Don't let the world bring you down, not everyone here is that fucked up and cold. Remember why you came and while you're alive, experience the warmth before you grow old.
Best two days of my life: Oasis at MSG and Pearl Jam at the Gorge.0 -
PearlsGirl wrote:He disagrees with both, and for most Americans, politics is confusing enough, and he just makes it more complicated.
words like these are the reason why the sound of "DEMOCRACY IS A TOTAL FUCKING JOKE" that echoes in the back of my head gets louder and louder every year.0 -
blackredyellow wrote:Most of Nader's current supporters would find a new candidate to support because Nader would have become too "mainstream", and loved by the corporate media...
Then new, TV news influenced voters would start supporting him, and then in turn be called sheep by the old supporters.
It's not about anything to do with mainstream. That's like saying you don't like Pearl Jam because they're too mainstream. If the music is good, the music is good. And Ralph Nader plays some damn good music as far as I'm concerned.0 -
Kenny Olav wrote:we should have a binding "NONE OF THE ABOVE" choice on the ballot which, if it wins, would force new elections.
ha thats seriously the greatest idea I've ever heard. nice!0 -
PearlsGirl wrote:See, for me, I see Ralph Nader as a person who doesn't have a clear set of ideas. It takes a lot for me to be pursuaded by a candidate, and it seems as though Mr. Nader's beliefs are neither for, nor against the ideals of the Democratic Party and the GOP. He disagrees with both, and for most Americans, politics is confusing enough, and he just makes it more complicated. He works well in taking away votes from the Democratic party. This year, we need those votes, John McCain isn't our biggest problem now.
How did we get out of the fucking mess in Vietnam? Stopped funding it. It's simple. My six year old can understand it.0 -
lazymoon13 wrote:ha thats seriously the greatest idea I've ever heard. nice!0
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Eliot Rosewater wrote:Well, that was Nader's idea, wasn't it? Or maybe Kucinich...can't remember.
well it that case I should vote for nader and stop being a sheep to the corporate media!0 -
PearlsGirl wrote:See, for me, I see Ralph Nader as a person who doesn't have a clear set of ideas. It takes a lot for me to be pursuaded by a candidate, and it seems as though Mr. Nader's beliefs are neither for, nor against the ideals of the Democratic Party and the GOP. He disagrees with both, and for most Americans, politics is confusing enough, and he just makes it more complicated. He works well in taking away votes from the Democratic party. This year, we need those votes, John McCain isn't our biggest problem now.
I see his views as very clear and thorough. And I don't care for the Democratic party at all so I guess I'm not seeing where you're coming from here.If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde0
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