US pulls out of UN human rights body

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MattyJoe wrote:
    Not ONE MENTION of China. Thank you Byrnzie.

    Here ya go. Knock yourself out!

    http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/country?iso=chn&expand=news
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    Byrnzie wrote:
    That's just one session - the 8th session. If you make the effort you may find what you're looking for. Still, I proved my point. It was in response to your assertion that the UNHCR does nothing but bash Israel.

    I wasn't asserting that, I was asserting that they hardly do anything about China, even vocally.
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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Yes, paranoia is indeed more interesting than what I dispense, granted.


    None of what this thread about is paranoia?

    Why dont you add to the thread by providing examples where Israel was bashed by this council without justification?
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Has anyone even head about this in the mainstream channels yet?
    Nope!

    But... wow! :o defies belief... where are they going with this one?
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    MattyJoe wrote:
    Anything being done about China? They're ON the human rights council. Does Kofi ever speak out against the horrible abuses inflicted by governments in Africa? No he just bashes the US and other countries when they don't help.
    Gimme a fucking break.
    First off... Kofi? That's sooooooooooo 2006 :p

    Secondly... of course he never mentioned a word about Africa or China... EVER! :rolleyes: *warning: High level of sarcasm*
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    Enough with Israel, even Israel is tried of people crawling out of the woodwork and using them as a scapegoat for the Middle East, especially since it wasn't that long ago that jews weren't allowed in the colleges, the fraternity clubs, the dances, or, on the golf courses and most of these people at the time would not have been caught associating with a jew. So they really need to quit pretending that they are all part of this big jewish love festival. This isn't about Israel.

    Between Guantanamo Bay, black prisons, Blackwater, to using the U.S. Navy as floating prisons and the Iraq mission as a whole, anyone can see why Bush and his Administration would not want to be a regular participant of the UN's Human Rights Council.. It assumes they had knowledge of what constituted human rights violations; thus, with impeachment proceedings being formally read into the Congressional record, its a CYA tactic. Each day as more stuff comes to light, it just makes you think how easy Bush and Cheney and all the President's men and women fall into the catagory of war criminals. It would be a trial that would be just as studied as the Numberg trial.

    Stop worrying about what other countries do, we have our own human rights skeltons in Africa (Congo and Angola) and Central/South America (pick your favorite). We have supported China with favorite nation status seems like forever, we are party to their continued human rights violations. Lets not get started on our allies Turkey, India, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc. etc. that we continue to support.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    puremagic wrote:
    Enough with Israel, even Israel is tried of people crawling out of the woodwork and using them as a scapegoat for the Middle East, especially since it wasn't that long ago that jews weren't allowed in the colleges, the fraternity clubs, the dances, or, on the golf courses and most of these people at the time would not have been caught associating with a jew. So they really need to quit pretending that they are all part of this big jewish love festival. This isn't about Israel.

    Between Guantanamo Bay, black prisons, Blackwater, to using the U.S. Navy as floating prisons and the Iraq mission as a whole, anyone can see why Bush and his Administration would not want to be a regular participant of the UN's Human Rights Council.. It assumes they had knowledge of what constituted human rights violations; thus, with impeachment proceedings being formally read into the Congressional record, its a CYA tactic. Each day as more stuff comes to light, it just makes you think how easy Bush and Cheney and all the President's men and women fall into the catagory of war criminals. It would be a trial that would be just as studied as the Numberg trial.

    Stop worrying about what other countries do, we have our own human rights skeltons in Africa (Congo and Angola) and Central/South America (pick your favorite). We have supported China with favorite nation status seems like forever, we are party to their continued human rights violations. Lets not get started on our allies Turkey, India, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc. etc. that we continue to support.

    yup!
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    catefrances wrote:
    oh now see... look what youve done... youve woken steve. ;):p:D


    :D
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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    U S shouldn't be allowed to participate in the first place until it polices itself in this area.
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    beachdweller wrote:
    U S shouldn't be allowed to participate in the first place until it polices itself in this area.

    Ditto for everyone else on the body too, then ... Including the Arab nations who do abuse the privledge of being there.
  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Ditto for everyone else on the body too, then ... Including the Arab nations who do abuse the privledge of being there.


    For the thrid time..provide instances of unfair treatment of Israel.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Open wrote:
    For the thrid time..provide instances of unfair treatment of Israel.

    I didn't see your earlier requests, so take a pill.

    Here's all the resolutions against Israel to date:
    http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqEmG/b.3820041/

    What's obvious is that a grossly disportionate amount of attention gets put on Israel, despite the huge number of other violators that could be targeted. For example, the general assembley has recently (2006-2007) ignored Sudan completely, but gone after Israel 22 times. Utterly fucking ridiculous, considering how much genocide (in no uncertain terms) is happening in the former country.
    This is clear evidence of bias, and of an abuse of the system. Israel SHOULD be the target of SOME resolutions, to be sure. But this many? This disproportionately? Yes, this is an abuse of the system. You'll blow it off, I am sure.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    "It is legitimate for the UN to criticize Israel, which should be held accountable like every other country. However, it is not legitimate when UN bodies do so unfairly, selectively, massively, sometimes exclusively, and always obsessively. At the UN Commission on Human Rights, for example, half of all the resolutions that censure states are targeted against Israel. Meanwhile, apart from a handful of states, the world's worst violators are routinely ignored by the Commission, and are granted immunity from scrutiny."

    from
    http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-040-neuer.htm
  • pickupyourwill
    pickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Yes, paranoia is indeed more interesting than what I dispense, granted.


    Since when is questioning authority considered paranoid given the compounded lies surrounding nearly everything we're fed today. Here eat this...mmm tastes like lies.

    Biased a tad perhaps?

    Got something stuck in your craw that's perpetually short circuiting your logic circuits?

    Are you over it yet?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    reborncareerist wrote:
    "It is legitimate for the UN to criticize Israel, which should be held accountable like every other country. However, it is not legitimate when UN bodies do so unfairly, selectively, massively, sometimes exclusively, and always obsessively. At the UN Commission on Human Rights, for example, half of all the resolutions that censure states are targeted against Israel. Meanwhile, apart from a handful of states, the world's worst violators are routinely ignored by the Commission, and are granted immunity from scrutiny."

    from
    http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-040-neuer.htm
    I don't think the UN response to Israeli aggression has been fair either. Israel has literally been getting away with murder.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

    Are you over it yet?

    Are you? I'm cool. Your initial remark about people eating too much potatoes or some-such nonsense started the whole thing. You got pissy for no real reason. But yes, I am over it. Really, it was all in good fun.
  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    reborncareerist wrote:
    "It is legitimate for the UN to criticize Israel, which should be held accountable like every other country. However, it is not legitimate when UN bodies do so unfairly, selectively, massively, sometimes exclusively, and always obsessively. At the UN Commission on Human Rights, for example, half of all the resolutions that censure states are targeted against Israel. Meanwhile, apart from a handful of states, the world's worst violators are routinely ignored by the Commission, and are granted immunity from scrutiny."

    from
    http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-040-neuer.htm

    Ye...that would not be the first source of information i would be looking to for an unbiased view. But its possible you weren't looking for an unbiased view.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Specifics wrote:
    Ye...that would not be the first source of information i would be looking to for an unbiased view. But its possible you weren't looking for an unbiased view.

    Right, 'cause all of Roland's and Brynzie's sources were unbiased. Frankly, I don't see you doing much legwork in this thread.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Are you? I'm cool. Your initial remark about people eating too much potatoes or some-such nonsense started the whole thing. You got pissy for no real reason. But yes, I am over it. Really, it was all in good fun.


    You took a generalized statement, and decided to turn it onto a personal attack tirade

    good work!

    predictable.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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