Paul McCartney

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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    That was a great kids' tune. I could never understand why people disparaged it. Critics looked like imbeciles who were unable to determine when a song is written for youngsters. What were they expecting? Proust?
    Yes, it will take nothing less than an ascension to the heights of Proust to make me appreciate McCartney.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • StrummingGnome
    StrummingGnome Posts: 29
    justam wrote:

    Unfortunately, some people do their best work early rather than at the end of their lives. It probably sucks for him to know that too.

    It's opinion though isn't it? Paul might think performing with his wife was as important and personal as performing with John Lennon & co. I don't buy into this juvenile tom-foolery of "best work". Paul McCartney more than likely views his solo projects as being different and equally unique to him as anything he did as a band member of The Beatles.
  • dpmay
    dpmay Posts: 643
    haven't read the whole thread, but i'm sure someone somewhere mentioned how awesome the new fireman album electric arguments is. and it just came out. so...sir paul is still rockin'...
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    StrummingGnome wrote:
    It's opinion though isn't it? Paul might think performing with his wife was as important and personal as performing with John Lennon & co. I don't buy into this juvenile tom-foolery of "best work". Paul McCartney more than likely views his solo projects as being different and equally unique to him as anything he did as a band member of The Beatles.
    What the hell is "juvenile" about appraising a musician's material? Those that expect their work to be treated as equally valuable and important would do well to never let anyone but themselves hear it. I'm sure every note McCartney recorded had a function for him. That which he has deemed necessary to release is public domain and entirely deserving of criticism if it is slipshod crap and praise if it is awesome.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • StrummingGnome
    StrummingGnome Posts: 29
    It becomes a pointless exercise of moronic stupidity of the highest degree! It becomes an argument based on "fact" not "opinion" and then the topic becomes locked, someone cries wolf amongst the sheep and the Admin has a power trip and starts banning backsides with immediate effect citing a lack of obedience to the forum decree.

    I have to confess that I thoroughly enjoyed Mull of Kintyre, this in my humblest opinion is as legendary as any of Ringo Starr's hits with The Beatles. I can see the mist rolling in from the sea.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    StrummingGnome wrote:
    It becomes a pointless exercise of moronic stupidity of the highest degree! It becomes an argument based on "fact" not "opinion" and then the topic becomes locked, someone cries wolf amongst the sheep and the Admin has a power trip and starts banning backsides with immediate effect citing a lack of obedience to the forum decree.

    I have to confess that I thoroughly enjoyed Mull of Kintyre, this in my humblest opinion is as legendary as any of Ringo Starr's hits with The Beatles. I can see the mist rolling in from the sea.
    Can I assume you are not a musician yourself?

    Criticism does not serve to undermine or devalue art but to strengthen the critic's understanding of it and, if the critics are artists themselves, to strive towards a satisfactory version of art in their eyes. I wonder if you think that critics as important in their respective fields as T.S Eliot (literature), Lester Bangs (music) and Roger Ebert (film) engage only in "pointless exercises of moronic stupidity" and assuming you do, I wonder if you have wholly failed to grasp the point of criticism in the first place.

    This is a discussion board, and a music discussion board no less. I wonder what kind of discourse you would have here if not this kind. The day when the users of a music message board lose the passion to virulently attack or defend music according to their own set of values as only they can understand them will be a sad day indeed. Everything here is indeed just opinion but since when did opinions have to be half-hearted and communal? Take them with a pinch of salt certainly but don't ever think that you're not allowed to sacrifice objectivity for the sake of passion. It's the internet after all. Hardly serious business ;)
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • StrummingGnome
    StrummingGnome Posts: 29
    You assume whatever you like, I do play the piano, but I don't consider myself a musician, I wouldn't treat a beautiful creation with utter contempt and disrespect.

    Criticism is designed to bring a person's well being into disarray and to plunge their future into a sea of a dark and morbid abyss. Why would I care what the Rolling Stones Magazine or some douchebag from the New York Times thinks about an album or an artist I like? I forge my opinion(s) and I keep it to myself without the need to gain attention for my non-benevolent cause.

    The latter paragraph made my heart weep endlessly, it was a speech as fitting as one echoed by Winston Churchill. "We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in the record stores, we shall fight on the streets and in the classroom, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our right to criticise someone's efforts arrogantly and pompously, whatever the cost may be,we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the homes of every non passionate man, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender and if, we may lose this fight then our friends in Uzbekistan will launch heavy artillery into upper quarters of the Strumming Gnome's dwelling.

    The Internet is a very serious business indeed, it can be a life and death situation. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1079348/British-man-shot-dead-ex-husband-woman-met-internet.html
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    StrummingGnome wrote:
    You assume whatever you like, I do play the piano, but I don't consider myself a musician, I wouldn't treat a beautiful creation with utter contempt and disrespect.

    Criticism is designed to bring a person's well being into disarray and to plunge their future into a sea of a dark and morbid abyss. Why would I care what the Rolling Stones Magazine or some douchebag from the New York Times thinks about an album or an artist I like? I forge my opinion(s) and I keep it to myself without the need to gain attention for my non-benevolent cause.

    The latter paragraph made my heart weep endlessly, it was a speech as fitting as one echoed by Winston Churchill. "We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in the record stores, we shall fight on the streets and in the classroom, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our right to criticise someone's efforts arrogantly and pompously, whatever the cost may be,we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the homes of every non passionate man, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender and if, we may lose this fight then our friends in Uzbekistan will launch heavy artillery into upper quarters of the Strumming Gnome's dwelling.

    The Internet is a very serious business indeed, it can be a life and death situation. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1079348/British-man-shot-dead-ex-husband-woman-met-internet.html
    You're a curious individual. I never said, by the way, that you have to care what anyone thinks about your favourite music, I merely said that they too have views and have the right to express them. You can disregard them if you like but it is wishful thinking to assume that a piece of music is beyond reproach because YOU find it beautiful. This discussion board was not created for those with your insular approach to musical appreciation so don't come in here telling people that critiquing music is moronic, whether you feel that way or not. Just don't contribute, it's fine.

    Your second paragraph, which I would address in depth but I have only so many years left to live and have to pick my fights according to how worthwhile they are, is one for the ages. I mean that. You're quite the dark poet.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    edited August 2018
    Ten years later, who is listening to Stockhausen? Wesley Willis is more radical than Stockhausen and he covered Hey Jude.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Adds safety wink. ;)
  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I'm not talking about the past. I'm talking about what he's done as an individual in the past 40 years. The fact is, he's done nothing of any worth.


    Mutiple huge solo albums, sell-out tours, huge songs like "Live & Let Die" and "Band On The Run" and "Jet" and "Maybe I'm Amazed", etc etc etc. Plus he's been a humanitarian, donating time and money to important causes.

    Should I go on?
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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    Dreamfire2 wrote:
    I've been a long time fan of Mccartney and the Beatles for over 40 years. However IMO he wandered well into cunt territory when he started charging $250 for tickets (not necessarily even excellent seats) for his concerts. Sure supply and demand says he can get it. But when you are worth way over a billion dollars it sucks. Like some oil producing countries are finding out right now just because you can suck the last fucking dollar out of people doesnt make it a particularly smart thing to do. I also haven;t been overly keen on his last 2 cd's despite tehir receiving substantial critical acclaim and some Grammy nods.



    You're not from the UK. Using the C word makes you look like a douche.
    Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
    Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    You're an IDIOT.

    Paul McCartney can kiss my arse.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,861
    There was a new single in June called "Come On To Me" and I like it very much. :) I wonder if that means another album coming up? Anyone heard anything?

    https://open.spotify.com/track/1EiSEUs3FuRZDBU23MuUN3?si=Tf3Meee8SyKA-w_fdKn0Dg

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  • ultrapig
    ultrapig South Dakota Posts: 175
    PJ_Soul said:
    There was a new single in June called "Come On To Me" and I like it very much. :) I wonder if that means another album coming up? Anyone heard anything?

    https://open.spotify.com/track/1EiSEUs3FuRZDBU23MuUN3?si=Tf3Meee8SyKA-w_fdKn0Dg

    Yeah I think it comes out sometime in September. It's called Egypt Station. 

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,861
    ultrapig said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    There was a new single in June called "Come On To Me" and I like it very much. :) I wonder if that means another album coming up? Anyone heard anything?

    https://open.spotify.com/track/1EiSEUs3FuRZDBU23MuUN3?si=Tf3Meee8SyKA-w_fdKn0Dg


    Yeah I think it comes out sometime in September. It's called Egypt Station.

    Awesome, thanks!

    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • DC29940
    DC29940 Tucson, AZ Posts: 717
    Keeping my fingers crossed for some US dates in my neck of the woods next year. I've seen him twice (once with my wife) and my 7 year old daughter absolutely loves the Beatles. It would be awesome to give her the experience of seeing Paul.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,861
    DC29940 said:
    Keeping my fingers crossed for some US dates in my neck of the woods next year. I've seen him twice (once with my wife) and my 7 year old daughter absolutely loves the Beatles. It would be awesome to give her the experience of seeing Paul.
    It really would... I just wish his shows didn't cost an arm and a leg. I love him, but it's hard for me to justify paying hundreds at face value for any artist.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Pauls shows are as good any...
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  • cornelia.h
    cornelia.h Vienna Posts: 47
    Pretty excited, got tickets for his Vienna show (Dec 5th) today. Small place for his standards, the last time he was here, he played in a stadium.
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