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PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
edited March 2008 in The Porch
Unless this seating chart is wrong, which I don't think it is,
88 of the non top seniority 10c members will be in the first 2 rows. 88 10c members and PJ fans who will probably never get this opportunity again. This is one of the things that 10c has done this tour that is good for most and probably not so good for a handful. But as Ed said in
Albany last time around, and I quote

"Who are you? Some of the people up front, we see the same fucking people everywhere we go"

Well not this time Ed ! Thanks 10c !!!



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  • JP2026766JP2026766 Posts: 1,125
    88 seats? or 88 pairs?
    If it's 88 seats, that means 44 10c members. with 44 of their friends.

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  • GreenTeaDiseaseGreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    ThrowUrArmsAroundMe wrote:
    88 seats? or 88 pairs?
    If it's 88 seats, that means 44 10c members. with 44 of their friends.

    EXACTLY. so 44 of those people will be bored little girlfriends who will complain the whole time.

    PEOPLE, STOP GIVING YOUR TEN CLUB SEATS TO YOUR BORING LITTLE GIRLFRIENDS!
  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,818
    you do realize that the top seniority 10 club members will be part of that random selection, don't you?

    they still have the opportunity to be in the front row, as they should
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  • a5pja5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,973
    so by your math there will be 88 lucky 10c members that get seats in row 1,2,9, or 10. And they get to bring along 88 of their lucky friends.
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • Given to...Given to... Wyoming Posts: 5,007
    Any way you do the math, its a decent change. It doesnt exclude the lifers, which it shouldnt, and it gives a small gimmer of hope for the rest. I've only tried for 10c tickets five times and have been unlucky on all occasions, so it wont help my un-lucky ass anyway.
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  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    a5pj wrote:
    so by your math there will be 88 lucky 10c members that get seats in row 1,2,9, or 10. And they get to bring along 88 of their lucky friends.

    Jesus H. Christ, I forgot where I was posting this, the land of exact technical detail.

    There are 44 seats in row 1 & 44 seats in row 2. That means 88 tickets total. That is why I said, 10c members and PJ fans, figuring not all 88 seats will be taken by 10c members.

    How's that?
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  • Given to...Given to... Wyoming Posts: 5,007
    Hmm, something like that.
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  • TimansTimans Posts: 34
    So, if you're a tenclub member, you will be at least in Section 1, 2, 3 or 4 according to that seating chart?

    If so, it sounds good to me! I am new member (November 07) so I won't be getting the best seats.
  • a5pja5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,973
    BeerBaron wrote:
    44 seats to a row is fairly standard for arenas, sometimes 42. So that sounds about right.

    So if an arena has a capacity of say 18,000 for a concert. 10C gets say 10% of the venue, therefore, 1,800 seats or 900 pairs.

    That would leave each of us with a 1.2% chance of row 1 and 1.2% chance or row 2. Or a 2.4% chance of either row 1 or 2.

    Then, rows 3 through 8 would be filled with the lowest 10C members, which is a total of 6 rows x 44 seats = 264 seats/2 = 132 10C members.

    Take those 132 10Cers and add them to the 44 that will be sitting in rows 1 and 2 and you have 176 ticket pairs of the 900 sitting in rows 1-8. That leaves 724 pairs of tickets going for the row 9 and 10 lottery.

    Each of those people would therefore have about a 6% chance of either row 9 or 10 (or a 3% chance for each row).

    So 10Cers with very high numbers would have a combined 8.4% chance of either getting row 1,2,9 or 10.

    I must have messed up those numbers somehow, but that's the way I see it.
    :)

    jeez and they thought I was being technical
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  • Red LukinRed Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    Does anyone know if everyone is included in the lottery for rows 9 and 10, or just those who would be placed behind row 8? Is seems like a lot of work for the TC to first make everyone in the lottery for rows 1 and 2, then place rows 3-8 by senority, then place everyone else in the lottery for rows 9 and 10.

    Does anyone know for sure?
  • camaroscamaros Posts: 1,003
    are we sure that the Ten Club only gets 10% off the venue?
    i like sound...
  • emperor penguinemperor penguin Posts: 197
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    EXACTLY. so 44 of those people will be bored little girlfriends who will complain the whole time.

    PEOPLE, STOP GIVING YOUR TEN CLUB SEATS TO YOUR BORING LITTLE GIRLFRIENDS!

    i never give my girlfriend my extra 10 club ticket. as much as i love her, a pearl jam show is the last place i want to take her. she's not a fan of the band at all, i'd rather bring a fan who never joined 10c.
    I like bands.
  • BUFFALOBUFFALO Posts: 760
    if im not in rows 1 thru 10 then i hope i dont get seats on the floor. being a short dago i have a better time when im in the seats .
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  • BonesmagooBonesmagoo Posts: 41
    I'm not very happy about that setup. 50XXX
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    BeerBaron wrote:
    44 seats to a row is fairly standard for arenas, sometimes 42. So that sounds about right.

    So if an arena has a capacity of say 18,000 for a concert. 10C gets say 10% of the venue, therefore, 1,800 seats or 900 pairs.

    That would leave each of us with a 1.2% chance of row 1 and 1.2% chance or row 2. Or a 2.4% chance of either row 1 or 2.

    Then, rows 3 through 8 would be filled with the lowest 10C members, which is a total of 6 rows x 44 seats = 264 seats/2 = 132 10C members.

    Take those 132 10Cers and add them to the 44 that will be sitting in rows 1 and 2 and you have 176 ticket pairs of the 900 sitting in rows 1-8. That leaves 724 pairs of tickets going for the row 9 and 10 lottery.

    Each of those people would therefore have about a 6% chance of either row 9 or 10 (or a 3% chance for each row).

    So 10Cers with very high numbers would have a combined 8.4% chance of either getting row 1,2,9 or 10.

    I must have messed up those numbers somehow, but that's the way I see it.
    :)


    well i'm impressed. :p
    i couldn't be bothered to get that involved, i am simply happy at a SHOT at rows 1-2, 9-10 for an assigned seating show. good enough for me, even if a VERY slim chance! i just LOVE the IDEA...that *anyone* in the 10c could have the possibility of being in the first 2 rows. beautiful! sharing the love indeed!
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  • Panic821Panic821 Posts: 106
    what if a really low 10c #, who otherwise would have the first 5 rows, gets picked in the 'lottery' and ends up in row 10? that would be something. :D
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  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    If a 10c member was 'suppose" to be in row 1, I think that the worse they can do now would be row 3. I doubt very much they would throw them in the back of the venue.



    BTW... For those who do get the first 2 rows, expect to get smacked in the back of the head a few times by the seats rightful owners.
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  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,754
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    If a 10c member was 'suppose" to be in row 1, I think that the worse they can do now would be row 3. I doubt very much they would throw them in the back of the venue.



    BTW... For those who do get the first 2 rows, expect to get smacked in the back of the head a few times by the seats rightful owners.

    You mean the people with their arms crossed that stand motionless - jk - sort of-

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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,952
    BeerBaron wrote:
    44 seats to a row is fairly standard for arenas, sometimes 42. So that sounds about right.

    So if an arena has a capacity of say 18,000 for a concert. 10C gets say 10% of the venue, therefore, 1,800 seats or 900 pairs.

    That would leave each of us with a 1.2% chance of row 1 and 1.2% chance or row 2. Or a 2.4% chance of either row 1 or 2.

    Then, rows 3 through 8 would be filled with the lowest 10C members, which is a total of 6 rows x 44 seats = 264 seats/2 = 132 10C members.

    Take those 132 10Cers and add them to the 44 that will be sitting in rows 1 and 2 and you have 176 ticket pairs of the 900 sitting in rows 1-8. That leaves 724 pairs of tickets going for the row 9 and 10 lottery.

    Each of those people would therefore have about a 6% chance of either row 9 or 10 (or a 3% chance for each row).

    So 10Cers with very high numbers would have a combined 8.4% chance of either getting row 1,2,9 or 10.

    I must have messed up those numbers somehow, but that's the way I see it.
    :)

    i like your style, dude. and with three shows, that means i have a 25% chance to be in the 1,2,9,10 row at DC or MSGs
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  • Rossum20Rossum20 Posts: 910
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    If a 10c member was 'suppose" to be in row 1, I think that the worse they can do now would be row 3. I doubt very much they would throw them in the back of the venue.



    BTW... For those who do get the first 2 rows, expect to get smacked in the back of the head a few times by the seats rightful owners.

    since the 10c officially changed the rules....those people are no longer the rightful owners
  • spinDrAtlspinDrAtl Posts: 109
    They will probably lottery rows 1-2, then seat rows 3-8 by seniority, then lottery rows 9-10 for everyone who is left, then assign the remaining seats.
    So this is what it's like to be an adult.

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  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    Indifference wrote:
    You mean the people with their arms crossed that stand motionless - jk - sort of-

    That better not happen. That would be disgraceful. We know Ed and Mike particularly, feed off of the first few rows. If you get up there, do your duty!
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    That better not happen. That would be disgraceful. We know Ed and Mike particularly, feed off of the first few rows. If you get up there, do your duty!

    I think that was the joke ... the people who "normally" sit in those seats are the jaded, been-there-done-that arm-crossers who are only there to hear "Bee Girl" or some such.
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  • OlDiamondbackOlDiamondback Posts: 100
    Indifference wrote:
    You mean the people with their arms crossed that stand motionless - jk - sort of-

    Fat, old, and bald. See: Comic-book-guy. "Worst opener, ever."

    I swear to god, if they make another DVD, they need to avoid showing the front rows, it's fucking sad. I mean I know they've been around for awhile, and I'm not exactly a looker, but come on! lol.

    So yeah, I think this fresh meat idea is great.
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,754
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    That better not happen. That would be disgraceful. We know Ed and Mike particularly, feed off of the first few rows. If you get up there, do your duty!

    Why do you think they changed it? For that reason.

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  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    Ol'Diamondback wrote:
    Fat, old, and bald. See: Comic-book-guy. "Worst opener, ever."

    I swear to god, if they make another DVD, they need to avoid showing the front rows, it's fucking sad. I mean I know they've been around for awhile, and I'm not exactly a looker, but come on! lol.

    So yeah, I think this fresh meat idea is great.

    You know that imaginary line that you aren't suppose to cross? I think you just crossed it. Have some respect.
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    PJ_Lukin wrote:



    BTW... For those who do get the first 2 rows, expect to get smacked in the back of the head a few times by the seats rightful owners.




    WOW.


    and...

    spinDrAtl wrote:
    They will probably lottery rows 1-2, then seat rows 3-8 by seniority, then lottery rows 9-10 for everyone who is left, then assign the remaining seats.



    no 'probably'...it has been posted, that is EXACTLY how it will be done.
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  • OlDiamondbackOlDiamondback Posts: 100
    crossed it dancing,

    brush your teeth.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,884
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    Unless this seating chart is wrong, which I don't think it is,
    88 of the non top seniority 10c members will be in the first 2 rows. 88 10c members and PJ fans who will probably never get this opportunity again. This is one of the things that 10c has done this tour that is good for most and probably not so good for a handful. But as Ed said in
    Albany last time around, and I quote

    "Who are you? Some of the people up front, we see the same fucking people everywhere we go"

    Well not this time Ed ! Thanks 10c !!!



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    ok here is a question - say your member number is usually in the first 5 or 6 rows and you get randomly picked for rows 9 and 10 - didn't you really lose your seniority there? not sure if its possible and doesn't affect me but was just wondering.
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