Van Halen with roth or hagar

melodyman22
melodyman22 Posts: 326
edited March 2006 in Other Music
i gotta say diamond david lee roths van halen work is much better way better songs hes a much better performer, I find hagars van halen stuff avgerage at best and eddies guitar playing was much better in the roth days
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  • dCowboyPJ
    dCowboyPJ Posts: 479
    I'm a HUGE Hagar fan. I wouldn't be suprised if i'm the only one on here that says that. Hagar's work is so much better imo.

    I can understand though why people like DLR so much though. But I grew up listening to 5150. Thats all I know for most of my life. So thats why I like Hagar so much.

    5150 is one of the best albums of all time.
  • AxlUlrich
    AxlUlrich Posts: 12,652
    like them both..but will give Dave the edge over Van Hagar cos i think he's a better live performer.
    music wise..i think they both rule.
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  • dCowboyPJ
    dCowboyPJ Posts: 479
    AxlUlrich wrote:
    like them both..but will give Dave the edge over Van Hagar cos i think he's a better live performer.
    music wise..i think they both rule.

    I'v never seen DLR live. But my dad and me saw Van Halen back in '04 with Hagar. He saw Roth back in in the 70s and he said that Sammy blew DLR away live...

    Sammy is pretty good up on stage. One of the best singer's i'v seen live.
  • fisttothejaw
    fisttothejaw Posts: 234
    No way - Gary Cherone was the ONE...

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    Roth, hands down.
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  • dCowboyPJ
    dCowboyPJ Posts: 479
    fisttothejaw wrote:
    No way - Gary Cherone was the ONE...

    whoops - sorry, I must have hit my head for a second... where was I?

    Roth, hands down.

    LMAO.

    I was waiting for the Cherone joke. There's always one in every VH discussion. Man...that album was terrible.
  • melodyman22
    melodyman22 Posts: 326
    to me hagar cant compare his songs arent nearly as good vh will always be the best with roth hands down
  • chris01
    chris01 Posts: 559
    Speaking of Cherone, are Extreme back together?
    Someone told me they heard an Extreme song on the radio yesterday and the DJ said it was a new song.
  • cookie5798
    cookie5798 Posts: 396
    AxlUlrich wrote:
    like them both..but will give Dave the edge over Van Hagar cos i think he's a better live performer.
    music wise..i think they both rule.

    I agree, I have seen Van Hagar live and it was off the hook, but I bet David Lee Roth would have blown the roof off!
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    I would go with Hager. My track record includes two Van Halen concerts with DLR and only a Sammy Hager solo show (1983!!!). DLR was very hit or miss in concert. If he had too much drink, the show was awful. That was the case for the show on the Diver Down tour that I attended. He redeemed himself when I saw the band on the 1984 tour.

    I saw Sammy open before ZZ Top right when they were busting out on MTV. He flat out tore the house down.

    If one looks closely, one would see that in the Hager era there were far less cover tunes included on Van Halen albums. This says something about the songwriting skills of one lead singer over the other.
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    stateofloventrust12 Posts: 88
    ive got two words for yah

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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Cabo Wabo maaaaaaan. Anyone who makes that stuff is tops in my book.
  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    chris01 wrote:
    Speaking of Cherone, are Extreme back together?
    Someone told me they heard an Extreme song on the radio yesterday and the DJ said it was a new song.

    No shit? I saw a VH1 special where there was an attempt to get them back together and Nuno (lead guitar) didn't want any part of it. Extreme and specifically Gary Cherone have been bashed ad nauseum but I'll challenge any of you to watch them perform in the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert and not be impressed. I think they played as well as any other artist there.
  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    I prefer Hagar, but that might be just because of my age. Roth quit VH when I was only like 12. But I've seen VH with Hagar 10 times and once with Cherone. I don't know, I always like Hagar's voice better and he was much more fan friendly.

    I grew up on 5150, OU812 and F.U.C.K.

    I'll always remember seeing them for free in Dallas in December 1991. When they were here for the Texxas Jam in '88, Hagar's voice was so shot that he promised a make up show. It took them awhile but one day in Dec. '91 they set up a stage right in the middle of downtown Dallas in the middle of the day and let it rip. About 100,000 people crammed the streets. It was awesome! I'll never forget that.

    I've even been to Hagar's Cabo Wabo Cantina in Cabo San Lucas!
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  • dCowboyPJ
    dCowboyPJ Posts: 479
    Flagg wrote:

    I've even been to Hagar's Cabo Wabo Cantina in Cabo San Lucas!

    What was that like?

    My friends and me are trying to get a trip going somewhere down there. But we really have no idea where to go.
  • citizen_drew
    citizen_drew Posts: 170
    Flagg wrote:
    I've even been to Hagar's Cabo Wabo Cantina in Cabo San Lucas!

    Hey! I've been kicked out of that bar....Thanks alot Danny. Cool rock and roll joint though.
    I'm a big Hagar fan too, but I usually find myself on the Roth end of this conversation.
    Wish I could have seen them back in the day..Seen them a few times with Hagar. Last time at the Forum coincidently.
  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    King Nothing wrote:
    What was that like?

    My friends and me are trying to get a trip going somewhere down there. But we really have no idea where to go.

    It was great. It was in 1996 when I went though and I think the cantina is in a different location now. Also, back then Sammy was still in the band so it was decorated with a lot of VH memorabilia and pictures.

    I was a huge VH fan back then, so I was kind of in awe.

    Cabo San Lucas is a cool town to visit. From what I have heard, it is a lot more touristy than it used to be however. Fantastic place if you want to try Marlin fishing!
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  • Flagg
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    citizen_drew wrote:
    Hey! I've been kicked out of that bar....Thanks alot Danny. Cool rock and roll joint though.
    I'm a big Hagar fan too, but I usually find myself on the Roth end of this conversation.
    Wish I could have seen them back in the day..Seen them a few times with Hagar. Last time at the Forum coincidently.


    Hah! Cool!

    Yeah, I wish I had seen the classic lineup live too. Saw them on the reunion with Hagar tour in '04 and it sure brought back the memories. Have you ever seen a band with so much talent and appeal and fanbase just constantly shoot themselves in the foot like they do?
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  • whatsthefreezer
    whatsthefreezer Posts: 347
    Easy Roth. Van Halen s/t still their best record.
  • citizen_drew
    citizen_drew Posts: 170
    Flagg wrote:
    Hah! Cool!

    Yeah, I wish I had seen the classic lineup live too. Saw them on the reunion with Hagar tour in '04 and it sure brought back the memories. Have you ever seen a band with so much talent and appeal and fanbase just constantly shoot themselves in the foot like they do?

    Probably not out of the short list of bands that would fall into that category.
    I'm not an autograph seeking type of person, but I do have a signed For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge CD signed by Ed Van Halen...He wrote on the cover...Get crazy with us Xxxxx -Ed Van Halen.

    And Cabo...I have about 80 hours of time pulling lures and bait around the peninsula trying to hookup with a marlin and haven't yet, maybe I'm due to try again. Really like the surfing down there too, around Costa Azul. Zippers and Los Rocas...I think I may be working myself up into a Cabo jones all the sudden...

    Anyways yeah, Van Halen's first album is still my favorite. Changed alot of things...
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    I Like Dave. Hagar was okay, but didnt he make a shitty song about tequila just to sell his own shitty brnad of liqour?

    That tequila thing was pathetic...
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