Pink Floyd - The Final Cut

AndySlash wrote:

No.

No. No. No. No. No.

If any of you are going to get The Final Cut, do yourself a favor and find a version without WTTBF on it. That's how the album was meant to be heard. I've loved WTTBF since the first time I heard it, but it does NOT belong on the TFC album; it is decidedly a part of The Wall narrative. Yes, it was originally released as the lead single, but that was when TFC was still going to be a collection of Wall-era outtakes (of which WTTBF was one)/Wall movie versions of songs and not the thematic album it turned out to be.

If you want to hear WTTBF, just get Echoes. It belongs more on there than it does The Final Cut.

When the Tigers Broke Free is really out of place on The Final Cut. But they don't sell it new any other way anymore. I'm lucky my dad bought his copy in the 80's.

paddy wrote:

Wasn't this basically a Roger Waters album with Gilmour and Mason playing on it?
Anyhow, I would suggest Animals, Obscured by clouds, atom heart mother, meddle and a saucerful of secrets as much more under-rated than Final cut.

No way. The Final Cut is only less underrated than some of those albums because it's so underrated. It's like famous because it wasn't famous. Animals, Meddle, Obscured By Clouds, and Saucerful are all REALLY famous compared to The Final Cut. Believe me, I'm a Pink Floyd junkie. I used to not need to eat because my body ran on Pink Floyd. Atom Heart Mother is a great album, only one I agree with you being more underrated than TFC. The first four tracks are masterpieces. The last track is horribly uncalled for, Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast, but it's bearable, since AHM was based quite a bit around food. Animals didn't get much radio airplay only because all the songs were so long, and the others were released before DSOTM, so they're definitely "obscured." Haha, Pink Floyd pun.

I prefer Ummagumma, Relics, Zabriskie point, 'More' and a few dozen rarites, live stuff from that era anyday, like Beset by creatures of the deep, embryo, and thier various recorded jams.

As for pre solo waters solo albums I much prefer Music From the Body, at least the Waters parts, although Final Cut is a Rememberence Day classic.

very good album. Roger's solo tour with selections from this album was awesome....Roger gave the band a choice of The Wall or The Final Cut and the band chose.......So yes The Final Cut was just that and I do consider it a Roger solo project rather than Pink Floyd....still good none the less.




AMUSED TO DEATH is FANTASTIC!

One of my first three cds and still one of my favs

GREAT CD

too bad it was the nail in the coffin for PF

One of my favorite albums EVER. I love the lyrics to this one:

The Fletcher Memorial Home (Waters)

Take all your overgrown infants away somewhere
And build them a home, a little place of their own.
The Fletcher Memorial
Home for Incurable Tyrants and Kings.

And they can appear to themselves every day
On closed circuit T.V.
To make sure they're still real.
It's the only connection they feel.
"Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome, Reagan and Haig,
Mr. Begin and friend, Mrs. Thatcher, and Paisly,
"Hello Maggie!"
Mr. Brezhnev and party.
"Scusi dov'è il bar?"
The ghost of McCarthy,
The memories of Nixon.
"Who's the bald chap?"
"Good-bye!"
And now, adding colour, a group of anonymous latin-
American meat packing glitterati.

Did they expect us to treat them with any respect?
They can polish their medals and sharpen their
Smiles, and amuse themselves playing games for awhile.
Boom boom, bang bang, lie down you're dead.

Safe in the permanent gaze of a cold glass eye
With their favorite toys
They'll be good girls and boys
In the Fletcher Memorial Home for colonial
Wasters of life and limb.

Is everyone in?
Are you having a nice time?
Now the final solution can be applied.

The lyrics to the title track always blew my mind too:

The Final Cut (Waters)

Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes
I can barely define the shape of this moment in time
And far from flying high in clear blue skies
I'm spiraling down to the hole in the ground where I hide.

If you negotiate the minefield in the drive
And beat the dogs and cheat the cold electronic eyes
And if you make it past the shotgun in the hall,
Dial the combination, open the priesthole
And if I'm in I'll tell you what's behind the wall.

There's a kid who had a big hallucination
Making love to girls in magazines.
He wonders if you're sleeping with your new found faith.
Could anybody love him
Or is it just a crazy dream?

And if I show you my dark side
Will you still hold me tonight?
And if I open my heart to you
And show you my weak side
What would you do?
Would you sell your story to Rolling Stone?
Would you take the children away
And leave me alone?
And smile in reassurance
As you whisper down the phone?
Would you send me packing?
Or would you take me home?

Thought I oughta bare my naked feelings,
Thought I oughta tear the curtain down.
I held the blade in trembling hands
Prepared to make it but just then the phone rang
I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

"Hello? Listen, I think I've got it. Okay, listen its a HaHa!"

Not only is it a good album, but if any of you still care about great audio quality, this is one of the better rock recordings of the past forty years. Listen to it on a stereo system that has good power and you'll hear what I'm talkin' about.

Cob wrote:

I can only assume you are talking about the record and not the CD.

Yes!

Fletcher was Roger Water's father's middle name. Just a bit of trivia.