Pink Floyd - The Final Cut

comfortably numbcomfortably numb Posts: 188
edited September 2008 in Other Music
I honestly think it's my duty as a decent person (I consider myself a decent person) to convince everyone here who doesn't have this album to run out and get it right now.

It is beautiful.

No, I don't think I can convince anyone to run out and buy it. But if there are any Pink Floyd fans who haven't gotten it because of the conspiracy involved in keeping it relatively under-the-rader, then you probably should. It's their best album.

Is there anyone else like me who hasn't been fooled by this--the greatest conspiracy in all of music history?
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    I honestly think it's my duty as a decent person (I consider myself a decent person) to convince everyone here who doesn't have this album to run out and get it right now.

    It is beautiful.

    No, I don't think I can convince anyone to run out and buy it. But if there are any Pink Floyd fans who haven't gotten it because of the conspiracy involved in keeping it relatively under-the-rader, then you probably should. It's their best album.

    Is there anyone else like me who hasn't been fooled by this--the greatest conspiracy in all of music history?

    haha one of my friends is all about this album. i dont know if its their best work, but it is definitely their most underrated album by far.
  • No kidding though. It's just beautiful. There's no other word for it.

    I wouldn't say it's the most underrated album of all time. But it's without a doubt the most underrated by a band that's already as recognized as Pink Floyd.

    The re-release with When the Tigers Broke Free is especially wonderful. That song is on Echoes and I know there are probably a lot of people who have Echoes but don't have The Final Cut. If you like that song you'll love the final cut. Imagine WTTBF x13.
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    No kidding though. It's just beautiful. There's no other word for it.

    I wouldn't say it's the most underrated album of all time. But it's without a doubt the most underrated by a band that's already as recognized as Pink Floyd.

    The re-release with When the Tigers Broke Free is especially wonderful. That song is on Echoes and I know there are probably a lot of people who have Echoes but don't have The Final Cut. If you like that song you'll love the final cut. Imagine WTTBF x13.

    i didnt say it was the most underrated album of all time. i said it is their most underrated album, which i feel it is. i have the final cut and i do think its great. i dont think Echoes was a good compilation, on the other hand. it is missing a lot of key tracks.
  • oh I know you werent saying it was the most underrated, sorry. I was just saying that independently of what you said. I guess your comment is just what made me think of mine.
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    oh I know you werent saying it was the most underrated, sorry. I was just saying that independently of what you said. I guess your comment is just what made me think of mine.

    haha its all good, no worries.
  • Lukin66Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    I'm a huge fan of this album, I think most people like Floyd because of DSOTM and The Wall (at least people my age). I wish they would branch out and discover this album.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    It's almost the Wall pt. 2.

    Personally, I prefer Animals.
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  • Animals is a damn fine album too.

    I can definitely see the similarities between The Wall and The Final Cut, though I see The Final Cut as having more feeling, consistancy, focus, and better lyrics. It doesn't have the big hits, but a lot of great albums are like that. It's not just a collection of songs. It's what Pink Floyd did best.
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  • AndySlashAndySlash Posts: 3,263
    The re-release with When the Tigers Broke Free is especially wonderful.


    No.

    No. No. No. No. No.

    If any of you are going to get The Final Cut, do yourself a favor and find a version without WTTBF on it. That's how the album was meant to be heard. I've loved WTTBF since the first time I heard it, but it does NOT belong on the TFC album; it is decidedly a part of The Wall narrative. Yes, it was originally released as the lead single, but that was when TFC was still going to be a collection of Wall-era outtakes (of which WTTBF was one)/Wall movie versions of songs and not the thematic album it turned out to be.

    If you want to hear WTTBF, just get Echoes. It belongs more on there than it does The Final Cut.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    I honestly think it's my duty as a decent person (I consider myself a decent person) to convince everyone here who doesn't have this album to run out and get it right now.

    It is beautiful.

    No, I don't think I can convince anyone to run out and buy it. But if there are any Pink Floyd fans who haven't gotten it because of the conspiracy involved in keeping it relatively under-the-rader, then you probably should. It's their best album.

    Is there anyone else like me who hasn't been fooled by this--the greatest conspiracy in all of music history?

    It's okay. I like Not Now John and Fletcher Memorial Home a lot and there are a couple other good songs. it's more of a Waters' solo album than anything though.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    Lukin66 wrote:
    I'm a huge fan of this album, I think most people like Floyd because of DSOTM and The Wall (at least people my age). I wish they would branch out and discover this album.

    branch out and get Obscured by Clouds or Saucerful of Secrets before you worry about Final Cut
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  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    final cut is fantastic....paranaoid eyes being my personal fav on the album.
  • smarcheesmarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    love this album, great album to fall alseep to
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    I am torn on this album. It is great if I am in the mood for it, but I'd put a good 6-7 Floyd discs ahead of it on my favorites list.
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  • Human TideHuman Tide Posts: 328
    It's a great album, but I always feel like "Not now John" just doesn't quite fit with the rest of it, musically.
  • rcsrcs Posts: 711
    "Fuck all that we got to get on with these! Got to compete with the wily Japanese."

    Absolutely love this album! Granted it is pretty much all Roger Waters and it's the only Pink Floyd album that Rick Wright doesn't play on at all, but I have a deep connection to this album from my teenage years (along with The Wall and Wish You Were Here).

    Check out the short film if you haven't seen it before. Pretty good stuff.

    http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/theFinalCut/
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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    it's not pink
    floyd.

    it

    sucks out

    loud.
  • Omega47Omega47 Posts: 43
    Definitely one of the most bittersweet works of art out there.

    So complex and yet Water's voice sounds so innocent whilst weaving the album's many threads. This was the album that made me love Pink Floyd. I had heard their major hits on the radio, but when I heard this in particular, that was the day I fell in love. The song I heard that made me love it was "Your Possible Pasts." By the time Waters sang the first chorus, I was hooked.
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,717
    I am not a huge Floyd fan, but I remember when this album came out. I recently bought it on itunes. Great stuff!

    I saw Roger Waters at Coachella, and he did a few songs from it....was very cool!
  • TowsertunesTowsertunes Posts: 187
    Animals is my absolute favorite Floyd album.
    The Final Cut is interesting and enjoyable.
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  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    Atom Heart Mother!

    ....not really a fan though, just wanted to contribute.
  • Omega47Omega47 Posts: 43
    AndySlash wrote:
    No.

    No. No. No. No. No.

    If any of you are going to get The Final Cut, do yourself a favor and find a version without WTTBF on it. That's how the album was meant to be heard. I've loved WTTBF since the first time I heard it, but it does NOT belong on the TFC album; it is decidedly a part of The Wall narrative. Yes, it was originally released as the lead single, but that was when TFC was still going to be a collection of Wall-era outtakes (of which WTTBF was one)/Wall movie versions of songs and not the thematic album it turned out to be.

    If you want to hear WTTBF, just get Echoes. It belongs more on there than it does The Final Cut.
    When the Tigers Broke Free is really out of place on The Final Cut. But they don't sell it new any other way anymore. I'm lucky my dad bought his copy in the 80's.
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  • paddypaddy Posts: 104
    Wasn't this basically a Roger Waters album with Gilmour and Mason playing on it?
    Anyhow, I would suggest Animals, Obscured by clouds, atom heart mother, meddle and a saucerful of secrets as much more under-rated than Final cut.
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  • Omega47Omega47 Posts: 43
    paddy wrote:
    Wasn't this basically a Roger Waters album with Gilmour and Mason playing on it?
    Anyhow, I would suggest Animals, Obscured by clouds, atom heart mother, meddle and a saucerful of secrets as much more under-rated than Final cut.
    No way. The Final Cut is only less underrated than some of those albums because it's so underrated. It's like famous because it wasn't famous. Animals, Meddle, Obscured By Clouds, and Saucerful are all REALLY famous compared to The Final Cut. Believe me, I'm a Pink Floyd junkie. I used to not need to eat because my body ran on Pink Floyd. Atom Heart Mother is a great album, only one I agree with you being more underrated than TFC. The first four tracks are masterpieces. The last track is horribly uncalled for, Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast, but it's bearable, since AHM was based quite a bit around food. Animals didn't get much radio airplay only because all the songs were so long, and the others were released before DSOTM, so they're definitely "obscured." Haha, Pink Floyd pun.
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    In high school, I had some friends who were big into Pink Floyd. I remember hearing "The Final Cut" then and loving it! For some reason, I didn't buy it then and actually didn't get it until last year. It didn't blow me away when I heard it, but I think that is because I had it built up in my head so much. I also think my musical tastes have changed where back in high school I was much more into a more accessible album like "The Wall" and now I am more open to a weirder album like "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" which I just bought recently.
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    As for pre solo waters solo albums I much prefer Music From the Body, at least the Waters parts, although Final Cut is a Rememberence Day classic.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    an acquired taste to see the least. I like a couple songs (Fletcher Memorial Home is great) but actually prefer Roger's "Pros and Cons" to it.

    Not Now John is another underrated gem; cut from the cloth of Nile Song and Young Lust
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  • pearljimpearljim Posts: 1,312
    very good album. Roger's solo tour with selections from this album was awesome....Roger gave the band a choice of The Wall or The Final Cut and the band chose.......So yes The Final Cut was just that and I do consider it a Roger solo project rather than Pink Floyd....still good none the less.




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  • pink1969pink1969 Posts: 245
    Animals is by far my favorite floyd album (I mean cd) too.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,511
    One of my first three cds and still one of my favs

    GREAT CD

    too bad it was the nail in the coffin for PF
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