why is everyone so nuts about these reunions?

facepollution · January 2007

mrwalkerb wrote:

I grew up with these bands as well and I think the fact that I am proud of their legacy is what is the main stumbling block. Look at what happened to someone like Ozzy, he's done nothing that isn't a joke in over twenty years and has become a laughing stock, I don't want that to happen to bands that I've been listening to for upwards of 15 years now. I understand that these bands mean a lot to you and that's why I'm wondering if you have any concerns about it being an embarrassment? As for the Pumpkins I still can't believe that after a decade of mediocrity Billy Corgan can just will himself to write a brilliant record.

Do you not remember the last single the Pumpkins put out called 'Untitled'? Classic Smashing Pumpkins song, very much harked back to the Siamese Dream kind of sound. I read an interview with Billy Corgan and the interviewer commented on how old-school it sounded, he basically said that he could always write songs like that, but he wanted to experiment more.

The Ozzy comparison is a little tenuous too, he was never the most credible of artists even back when he was in Sabbath. Billy Corgan is way more talented as a musician than Ozzy ever was. And by your reasoning, like I pointed out before, surely Pearl Jam would be approaching an embarrassing stage? If the Pumpkins or RATM had carried on going people wouldn't be saying they were going to ruin the memories. Pearl Jam today is different to the Pearl Jam 15 years ago, but they are still an amazing band putting out amazing music.

facepollution · January 2007

Milestone wrote:

I also think Rage blows.

I hate that screaming wanna-be activist.

You know, if you go out and actively support the causes you believe in, you ARE an activist. If you were a wannabe you would claim to do those things, but wouldn't actually get your hands dirty. All members of RATM have been arrested on a few occassions standing up for the things they believe in, thus not making them wannabes. Check your facts.

drew0 · January 2007

You're right. A reunited Smashing Pumpkins now will never be nearly as good as they would have been in the '90s, but they'd still be better than nearly any other band out there right now. So, while it might pale in comparison to when they're in their prime, they still could kick any current band's ass...

alobar · February 2007

theres a lot of shit to talk about in this thread, especially when you're drunk. So here it goes:

1. The Police are getting back together. Hell yeah!!

2. The dumbass who dissed Rage, Pink Floyd and Hendrix in the same sentence should be shot dead.

3. A lot of what mrwalkerb said, I agree with (in my goddamn opinion). Most of these reunions are bullshit. Especially AIC and SP.

4. I want to know more about the Pavement reunion. That would rule!

somebodyelsessky2020 · February 2007

Cause I Don't Live In Europe

NOCODE#1 · February 2007

mrwalkerb wrote:

Like do you guys who are so mental about all these bands "getting back together" honestly believe that they will be nearly as good or even remotely as relevant as they once were? Anyways here are the four that I keep seeing on the board mentioned:

1-Smashing Pumpkins-ok so everyone forgot how the last album wasn't that great and that nobody bought it, and it seems everybody forgot Zwan and Billy's solo record (not as hard granted), because it seems if they record anything as the smashing pumpkins you guys think it will rule. Oasis used to be a great band but their last two records were blase at best, sometimes people lose it, I don't think playing with some random people-however talented they are- is going to make Billy Corgan write as good as he did in 1995.

3-Soundgarden-please no, Chris has lost his voice and is comfortable being mediocre in Audioslave, nothing good will come of this other than spectacle.

4-Rage- This is probably the least concerning of all the 90s bands talking about getting back together because it seems like a one off thing for coachella which would be cool.

you're not very bright are you?
the chriecomment is very preposterous
the lastest audioslave is one of the most underated albums in a long time.

intodeep · February 2007

NOCODE#1 wrote:

you're not very bright are you?
the chriecomment is very preposterous
the lastest audioslave is one of the most underated albums in a long time.

Well i won't bash your opinion about the latest audioslave album but i think you will find that perhaps you are a minority (which is cool).

Personally i thought they had some good songs on each album but each album progressively got worse and they never had the fire. I felt like they never felt comfortable. I only saw them once and it was 3 years ago and at that show Chris's voice was horrible i won't judge him by that one show though.

lalalalaaaaaaaa · February 2007

mrwalkerb wrote:

Like do you guys who are so mental about all these bands "getting back together" honestly believe that they will be nearly as good or even remotely as relevant as they once were?

Like I dunno...like I like hope they're still good roflz!!1

fanch75 · February 2007

I'm going to see WINGER on fucking Valentines Day! So my Vtines will be better than most of your sorry asses!

Reunions are about nostalgia. People either 1) seeing something they never got to see due to age, tastes at the time, etc, and 2) people going to see a band that they love and haven't gotten to see in years, like an old friend.

Every CD release or tour shouldn't have to have the goal of "changing music" or whatever, just to be valid.

BetterManningNYG · February 2007

mrwalkerb wrote:

I'm not comparing the music of grunge nad hair metal as they are different cultures what I am saying (and maybe I should have used hippies instead) is that you're in danger of living in the past. The music is great but seeing these guys trot it out ten years after the fact isn't going to help any. As much as I would have loved to see the Clash in a way it's nice that the memories are from when they were young and ruled the world.

i understand and agree. i have no intention of allowing my life to revolve around a few grunge novelty acts. it's just kinda cool to finally be able to see the bands that i grew up listening to, even if they're not at the top of their game. if nothing else, at least it gives me a chance to show my appreciation for these bands, which in my view is as essential to a show as the performance itself.

and if any of these zeppelin rumors turn out to be true, i'll be there too.

pjalive21 · February 2007

mrwalkerb wrote:

Like do you guys who are so mental about all these bands "getting back together" honestly believe that they will be nearly as good or even remotely as relevant as they once were? Anyways here are the four that I keep seeing on the board mentioned:

1-Smashing Pumpkins-ok so everyone forgot how the last album wasn't that great and that nobody bought it, and it seems everybody forgot Zwan and Billy's solo record (not as hard granted), because it seems if they record anything as the smashing pumpkins you guys think it will rule. Oasis used to be a great band but their last two records were blase at best, sometimes people lose it, I don't think playing with some random people-however talented they are- is going to make Billy Corgan write as good as he did in 1995.

2-Alice in Chains-this one is less grievous because they have made clear it is a "tribute" thing, but the instant they put out a record they become like the doors, and I mean the doors now a touring parody.

3-Soundgarden-please no, Chris has lost his voice and is comfortable being mediocre in Audioslave, nothing good will come of this other than spectacle.

4-Rage- This is probably the least concerning of all the 90s bands talking about getting back together because it seems like a one off thing for coachella which would be cool.

look at the music scene as a whole these days....not a suprise there is all thes reunions

pearljammerbeck · February 2007

THAT'S one I'd go see. But if they call it Led Zeppelin, then Jason Bonham better be on drums (even though Michael Lee kicked ass on UnLedded). I saw the Page/Plant reunion tour after their MTV special and they were great. To see them with Jones and Bonham's kid playing with them would be insane.

I don't know how accuarate those rumors are, though. I haven't heard anything lately about it, but it's one of those rumors that pops up every few years. Page did say in an interview once that it almost happened after he and Plant did "Walking into Clarksdale." Plant got tired of touring, though, and that was the end of it. Maybe he'd be up for it now that he's had a few years without any type of major tour (although he did tour for his last 2 solo albums, but not on a Page/Plant scale).

BetterManningNYG wrote:

and if any of these zeppelin rumors turn out to be true, i'll be there too.

Pearl Jam and toast · February 2007

Machina and Machina II were fucking brilliant. It's like Yield and No Code for pearl jam... sure if you're not a fan or only know the first 2 or 3 albums you probably don't give a shit, but a largeeeeeeeeee portion of the fanbase (including myself depending on my mood) consider that album (and Adore) better than Siamese Dream and MCIS.

Zwan sucked it, but Corgan's solo album was decent.. pretty interesting with a few really great songs if nothing more. And even if the new Pumpkins' record blows (and chances are it's going to be incredible) having Smashing Pumpkins back as a live act is irreplacable in itself.

Also you forgot the Police.

decides2dream · February 2007

fanch75 wrote:

Reunions are about nostalgia. People either 1) seeing something they never got to see due to age, tastes at the time, etc, and 2) people going to see a band that they love and haven't gotten to see in years, like an old friend.

Every CD release or tour shouldn't have to have the goal of "changing music" or whatever, just to be valid.

well said.

1. works for rage, never got to see em and would LOVE to. not going to coachella, but if they decide to tour the NE, i WILL go! i never saw soundgarden, aic, smashing pumpkins...but honestly, that's a-ok.

w/o layne, no real interest in aic live today....i've seen cornell with audioslave, that's good enough...and never a big pumpkins fan.

2. the POLICE!!!

my very FIRST concert, evern 1984...the police in philly. yep, traveled for my first concert. the police were the pearl jam of my youth.

hell fucking YES i'd LOVE to see em live again!

as to your last comment, absolutely. pearl jam has done full tours and minitours EVERY year since 2003.....and yet in that time, riot act and the newest album, the only new music presented...so yes fully agree...don't need new music to tour. sure, if you tour every year and NEVER release new stuff that's something else......but EACH time a band goes out on the road, just playing live is enough motivation imo.

pjl44 · February 2007

fanch75 wrote:

I'm going to see WINGER on fucking Valentines Day! So my Vtines will be better than most of your sorry asses!

Saw them Friday night and they sounded excellent. I also picked up a pretty sweet Winger t-shirt. Enjoy!

mrwalkerb · February 2007

NOCODE#1 wrote:

you're not very bright are you?
the chriecomment is very preposterous
the lastest audioslave is one of the most underated albums in a long time.

No I'm autistic, thus explaining my views on these bands. I can only assume "chriecomment" is supposed to be "chris comment" about him losing his voice and if you'd look around I you'll find I am not alone, as for the last line there, I think you confused underrated with redundant, but I guess you bright people have a lot to remember that I just can't grasp. Of course I could be wrong thinking you mispelled the word and in actuality you just are using something fantasticly high brow

why is everyone so nuts about these reunions?

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