why is everyone so nuts about these reunions?
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Like do you guys who are so mental about all these bands "getting back together" honestly believe that they will be nearly as good or even remotely as relevant as they once were? Anyways here are the four that I keep seeing on the board mentioned:
1-Smashing Pumpkins-ok so everyone forgot how the last album wasn't that great and that nobody bought it, and it seems everybody forgot Zwan and Billy's solo record (not as hard granted), because it seems if they record anything as the smashing pumpkins you guys think it will rule. Oasis used to be a great band but their last two records were blase at best, sometimes people lose it, I don't think playing with some random people-however talented they are- is going to make Billy Corgan write as good as he did in 1995.
2-Alice in Chains-this one is less grievous because they have made clear it is a "tribute" thing, but the instant they put out a record they become like the doors, and I mean the doors now a touring parody.
3-Soundgarden-please no, Chris has lost his voice and is comfortable being mediocre in Audioslave, nothing good will come of this other than spectacle.
4-Rage- This is probably the least concerning of all the 90s bands talking about getting back together because it seems like a one off thing for coachella which would be cool.
1-Smashing Pumpkins-ok so everyone forgot how the last album wasn't that great and that nobody bought it, and it seems everybody forgot Zwan and Billy's solo record (not as hard granted), because it seems if they record anything as the smashing pumpkins you guys think it will rule. Oasis used to be a great band but their last two records were blase at best, sometimes people lose it, I don't think playing with some random people-however talented they are- is going to make Billy Corgan write as good as he did in 1995.
2-Alice in Chains-this one is less grievous because they have made clear it is a "tribute" thing, but the instant they put out a record they become like the doors, and I mean the doors now a touring parody.
3-Soundgarden-please no, Chris has lost his voice and is comfortable being mediocre in Audioslave, nothing good will come of this other than spectacle.
4-Rage- This is probably the least concerning of all the 90s bands talking about getting back together because it seems like a one off thing for coachella which would be cool.
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in my opinion, the four bands you mentioned were FAR superior to any bands that have formed since. and a lot of us never got a chance to see them live when they were still together and touring.
i saw alice in chains four times in '06 and it was awesome...
How is a reunion any different to a band like Pearl Jam still being around? By your reasoning PJ can't be as good now as they were in the past. Billy Corgan wants his band back, and has quite clearly said it will be back to the more familiar and rocking SP sound - his biggest downfall was that he liked to experiment, which had varying degrees of success.
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As for the reunion craze...it's simple. 90% of the bands out there today blow...they fucking blow. Even a Days of the New reunion would sound good these days compared to the shit out there now...and I hated Days of the New.
Hell...a Menudo reunion would be better than half of the shit that's on MTv today.
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wow.
i never thought of it like that before.
but it's true. 100% true.
and kinda depressing.
just to clarify, are we talking about a full band reunion or just the lead singer after he kicked everyone else out? :rolleyes:
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Sure, why not...ass is ass. They were ass, but today they would be king of the hill. :(
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Nobody bought No Code compared to Ten-Vitalogy. People didn't give it a chance because it was different. I guess PJ is an exception right? The Smashing Pumpkins are just like PJ and challenge you to go where they dare to, all of their work is brilliant.
Zwan doesn't count because they didn't have great chemistry like SP.
Never heard Billy's solo work, so I can't comment.
So is the same true, that anything recorded by PJ will rule? (Bugs, Stupid Mop, Sweet Lew, etc.)
I don't think Billy lost it, but his ego clouds him.
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2. Alice in Chains. "Without Staley what's the point?"
3. Soundgarden. "If you didn't see them around 95' or so, you'll just be dissapointed."
4. Rage. "Quite possibly the worst band ever, De la Rocha should've stuck with hardcore."
Fuck reunions for shitty bands.
Wow i cannot believe you think Rage is the worst band ever. That saddens me.
Sorry man, I'm in a bad mood. I'll retract my statement on worst band ever and dub them the most "over-exaggerated" band ever. Along with Pink Floyd and Hendrix.
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Alice In Chains - Caught them last year and man is it depressing. This William DuVall guy is not a great fit...ran around in his designer clothes smiling and preening while singing some intensely personal and bleak songs. God I hope they don't put out a record.
Soundgarden - A one-off or two would be fine, but they're not getting Cameron back!
RATM - Never got to see them, so I would certainly be up to catch them if they decide to tour while Cornell is doing his solo thing. All original members and could hopefully settle into a groove after a couple shows.
I know it's cliche, but if you're looking for new bands I would probably not rely on MTV. Plennnnnnnty of great new bands around. If you care to express your tastes, I'm always willing to recommend....
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Seriously man I hear where you're coming from and I used to feel the same way. I wanted so bad to see the Stones on thier Bridges to Babylon tour, for a multitude of reasons I missed out, I was 15. Since then I have had the chance to go see them but passed because the truth is as good as a live show as I'm sure they put on now-and I belive it would be a fucking blast- it's just not the same. I came to this conclusion watching the Bridges to Babylon DVD, sometimes it's best to see them when they are at thier peak and not after. I saw Dylan a few years ago and while it was a great show I'm not sure I would go see him again.
now I know this is an exaggeration that these bands are "FAR superior to any bands that have formed since". The bands I named are fantastic and I brought this up because I am passionate about each of them but for SP I would way rather they leave sleeping dogs lie and let us remember how things were. Love Soundgarden and Rage but they did what they did, no sense watering it down, AIC isn't AIC without Layne, like if Chris Cornell had of died in 96 and then a decade later Soundgarden came out with some dude nobody would mind?
As far as the fact that these bands are better than anything since you sound like one of those guys with a denim jacket rocking out to Warrent because that was the end of good music. As proof you're wrong here are three bands that are just as good if not better than these 4 in question
1-New Pornographers
2-Hold Steady
3-Drive-by truckers
Well it differs greatly in that Pearl Jam didn't hang it up because people stopped buying their records and then a couple of failed "comebacks" decided to get back together. If the Smashing Pumpkins didn't cower under the recption of Adore and put out a crappy record they thought people wanted to hear in Machina but rather kept experimenting than this conversation would be very different.
Granted relative to their first three records nobody has really bought anything post vitalogy save us. And for teh most part people didn't give it a chance, you are right but the difference that is more important than whether you or I think they got better or worse once they stopped selling records is the Smashing Pumpkins called it quits and fucked off. They did not stick around regardless of sales and put out music that equaled anything they had recorded earlier. Personally I think Adore was and is a fantastic record, probably their best. I don't get where you are picking up that I think everything Pearl Jam does is good and everything that the pumpkins does is bad so I can't really get into the last line without a little clarification of what you mean or if you just misunderstood my original post.
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Honestly as stated there are two main reasons:
1) It gives the youngsters and people who never got a chance before to experience a concert and have that special band be in their concert memories.
2) Most new bands on rock radio blow... they really do, so the dude who said that is 100% correct. Most of the bands I've listend to since 2000 have either been a side project (qotsa... side band: Eagles of Death metal), on an indie label, or a local band.
I think alot of musicians are starting to see a slump in the music biz, so we are going to see alot of one offs and reunions coming our way REAL soon... that's my perspective.
To add to the joy of a reunion show experience, I was a huge Toadies fan back in 94 until when they disbanded. Last year, Vaden Todd Lewis got back together to do 2 shows with the Toadies and I could not have been more thrilled. Sure it wasn't the original line up from their 2nd album (cause Lisa quit the band after that album), but they hired a replacement for the 2001 farewell tour, and he was playing bass at the 2006 reunites). I am so thankful to have seen that show. It was a bit rough... and I got out of the pit after 5 songs, but I got to have a memory of seeing one of my favorite bands, and hearing those great songs I loved. Now, the members have moved on to other projects, but I left thinking I finally got to see a band that means alot to me. I LOVE Vaden Todd's new band, but to go back and finally relive that piece of 90's magic is something that makes me feel complete in a music lover sense.
I don't mean to ramble, I just thought I'd shed some light on where I feel people are coming from
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I didn't mean that you loved everything by PJ, I was making a comparison that people around here eat up anything PJ puts out, because it's PJ. Lost Dogs (no offense, and granted it's a B-Side album) has some real stinkers on it but everyone loves that record. I was under the impression that you hated post Mellon Collie stuff.
Well the last part I just meant that fame got to Billy's head, though he was always pretty egotistical. I think he still has the magic, but needs the right chemistry that Auf de Mer and Iha can give him. It's hard to explain
the reason people love lost dogs is that it had more great songs than the previous 2 albums (binaural and riot act) combined. sure, it had some weak tracks, but better weak songs than weak albums
anyway, the only reunions i really dig are the black crowes and oasis... cos it's part of their warring egos thing. to me, if you're just gathering up the old band for a new tour, you're just milking the name. if you're making new music together again, maybe there is some passion still there. thus why i am pretty ambivalent about aic, ratm, and smashing pumpkins, but excited about blind melon.
A one shot Rage reunion I like the idea of considering how abruptly they ended.
A Police reunion is the huge one.
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
And the Pumpkins are making new music. They're actually in the studio currently and have been for a few months. The suspense is killing me