Radiohead-Pink Floyd

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edited January 2006 in Other Music
ok theres a thread on the porch about bands which may be held at a higher regard than pj

whilst i wouldn discuss it here..my question is..is it just me who sees parrallels between floyd and rhead?

how many of u would honestly say that rhead are not the most innovative and unique band of this generation, and that includes pj. the way dark side of the moon blew people away is very similar to how ok computer did that dont u think?

yeah there are many many albums and bands that rock u out and just gives u energy listening to them..or that u would categorise as great..Ten, Vs., Appetite for Destruction, what else have we got, ermm.. ok Nevermind, The White Album

but dont u think listening to radiohead gives u the 'wow....' factor and u end up just sitting back and reflecting on what u just heard..just the innovation in the sound, the musical arrangements..just like pink floyd?

i have a real strong feeling that in 20 years from now..radiohead will be regarded in the same group as floyd, beatles, stones, zeppelin..u know..bands that REALLY revolutionised how rock music sounds.

or is this radiohead loving thing just me?
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    Me and my friends have talked about this before. Radiohead are one of the few bands around these days who are constantly moving forward and trying new things And they rarely falter. in this way they are progressive (without ever falling into the 'prog' genre). Of course the Floyd comparisons are inevitable (You're not alone in thinking this). In 20 years time Radiohead will be remembered in the same way Floyd are now.
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  • Posts: 288
    Hitch-Hiker wrote:
    Me and my friends have talked about this before. Radiohead are one of the few bands around these days who are constantly moving forward and trying new things And they rarely falter. in this way they are progressive (without ever falling into the 'prog' genre). Of course the Floyd comparisons are inevitable (You're not alone in thinking this). In 20 years time Radiohead will be remembered in the same way Floyd are now.

    thats nice to know...most of my friends are not into rock, nevermind radiohead..probably never heard of them or floyd..the ones that are into them are really into them, thats cool but 2 people is hardly representative.

    does it surprise u..that in my time here in the UK, i have yet to meet a SINGLE radiohead fan.. wtf????
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  • Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    I have made this argument before to a hardcore Pink Floyd fan that you can look at today's music scene and Radiohead are the only band who you can compare to Pink Floyd when they were young and making albums, in that, they are constantly evolving and creating challenging music that is mind-altering, progressive and unique and that challenges the listener.
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  • Posts: 1,917
    Thing is, Radiohead had the hits early on, and now they don't. The inverse is true for Floyd.

    I'll still take Oceansize or Porcupine Tree over current Radiohead stuff.
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    tool

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  • Posts: 523
    Radiohead will never ever be near as good as teh Floyd!

    And as the above stated...Tool is the best at doing new things
  • Posts: 1,279
    Tool has been doing the same thing since 1996, I don't know what you are talking about.
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  • Posts: 165
    I disagree about Tool doing the same thing since '96. They came out with Undertow in what, like 1993? And Aenima sounds completely different from Undertow. Lateralus was a huge step forward from Aenima in that the whole album coheres and deals with pretty broad themes not found in earlier Tool (Parabol/Parabola, for example). This coherence (the album is extremely effective if listened to in one sitting) invites inevitable Pink Floyd comparisons.

    I believe that Tool is pretty much head and shoulders above everyone else, excepting Radiohead, in terms of what's left of the 'prog' genre. I don't feel the need to defend or detract from Tool for the sake of either Pink Floyd or Radiohead. I appreciate all three. And if you want to say that Tool is derivative (which nobody has said here) then they steal most from King Crimson, in terms of overall ambience. And Radiohead has done their own cribbing - listen to Subterrean Homesick Alien and with a straight face tell me that doesn't have the soul of a pink floyd song.

    By the way...when Lateralus came out, Fred Durst stated something along the lines that Tool was untouchable. I can't believe that I agree with something that Fred Durst said...
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  • Posts: 523
    Echoes wrote:
    Tool has been doing the same thing since 1996, I don't know what you are talking about.
    Wow.

    Please lengthen your message.
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    I just think Aenima and Lateralus sound very simliar. Lateralus might be more polished, and address different subject matter, but I don't think the general Tool sound has fundamental changed. I'm not saying they are bad, I rather enjoy both albums. I just don't think they really sound all that different from each other. If you really want to get entirely nitpicky I am sure you could find a million things, but in the grand scheme of it, I don't think they are that different in scope. It is like comparing Geogaddi[ to Music Has The RIght To Children (Boards of Canada). Sure they have some subtle differences, one is darker in tone than the other etc, but they are basically the same beast.

    I don't really know if I am making myself clear, or if hordes of Tool fans who are locked in the mindset that their band is the most innovative thing since the Beatles will just tear into me and call me an idiot because I "can't tell the difference" between two albums. Anyways. Another way of ptting it is that I don't really think Tool is tracking any new ground for themselves.
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  • Posts: 272
    Does anyone think The Mars Volta may get to or near that higher regard? I'm kind of late to the scene as I just picked up De-Loused in the Comatorium and I can see some similarities to Floyd as well. I have yet to pick up my first Radiohead album though. I just got Riot Act and the Wolfmother CD as well (love them all btw).
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  • Posts: 223
    shahril wrote:
    whilst i wouldn discuss it here..my question is..is it just me who sees parrallels between floyd and rhead?

    how many of u would honestly say that rhead are not the most innovative and unique band of this generation, and that includes pj. the way dark side of the moon blew people away is very similar to how ok computer did that dont u think?
    i have a real strong feeling that in 20 years from now..radiohead will be regarded in the same group as floyd, beatles, stones, zeppelin..u know..bands that REALLY revolutionised how rock music sounds.

    or is this radiohead loving thing just me?

    i'm not a huge fan of radiohead but do hugely respect them.

    i agree that they are amongst the most innovative and unique bands of the era, but i don't think they'll quite be remembered in a similar way to floyd or the beatles. they won't have a place in history as a full fledged legendary group in their day such as nirvana or metallica. they'll be remembered more as a rush or zappa type (historically, not musicaly that is), a band who's influence wasn't really felt untill well after the fact
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    Echoes wrote:
    I don't really know if I am making myself clear, or if hordes of Tool fans who are locked in the mindset that their band is the most innovative thing since the Beatles will just tear into me and call me an idiot because I "can't tell the difference" between two albums. Anyways. Another way of ptting it is that I don't really think Tool is tracking any new ground for themselves.

    i'm going a little off topic here, but i think that's a very valid point. i adore tool and i disagree with your opinions about them "not tracking any new ground" but it must be said that a certain portion of tool's fanbase are indeed locked into their mindset to the point of being tunnel-visioned. kind of ironic since tool are so much about self-sufficiency and personal evolution
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  • Posts: 628
    Although I like both of them and I think Floyd has influenced Radiohead I don't think Ok Computer will ever be as great as Dark Side of the Moon.

    EDIT: Hey check it out my 666th post.
  • Posts: 362
    IMO radiohead had a lot of potential to release some truly groundbreaking music but instead they went and made some kind of introverted,introspective arty bollocks that no-one really listens to anymore,considering how much they were loved during the bends and ok computer,id like them to be remembered for those great albums and not the shite they've had out since........
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    danielheyes wrote:
    IMO radiohead had a lot of potential to release some truly groundbreaking music but instead they went and made some kind of introverted,introspective arty bollocks that no-one really listens to anymore,considering how much they were loved during the bends and ok computer,id like them to be remembered for those great albums and not the shite they've had out since........

    kid a and amnesiac were shite? come on!! u gotta be kidding me..

    and HTTT was a solid record..i dont get how u can say that radiohead produced introspective arty bollocks...

    how can u categorise something like kid a and amnesiac as that..theyve never been done before, it was truy groundbreaking.
    and i respect their integrity in not doing ok computer 2. no 2 albums should sound the same...otherwise ull end up like oasis
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  • Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    OK Computer part 2 could have never happened with these guys.

    I agree, Kid A is a masterpiece, and Amnesiac was certainly close. I doubt very highly that people who are fans of Radiohead do not appreciate these albums.
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    shahril wrote:
    kid a and amnesiac were shite? come on!! u gotta be kidding me..

    and HTTT was a solid record..i dont get how u can say that radiohead produced introspective arty bollocks...

    how can u categorise something like kid a and amnesiac as that..theyve never been done before, it was truy groundbreaking.
    and i respect their integrity in not doing ok computer 2. no 2 albums should sound the same...otherwise ull end up like oasis

    I was a big fan for years,saw them supporting james when james were at their peak and thom yorke had mad white hair!

    I just thought they went up their own asses a bit,they started listening to 'can' and trying to do a modern version of that.....so it has all been done before,they thought they could do it but i never worked imo. fair play if you like them but i dont think its them anymore. It like listening to bjork,just feckin nuts music that doesnt make much sense to me anymore.........:)
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  • Posts: 68
    I love Radiohead. IMO they peaked with Kid A, great record I think their last 2 records were very hit and miss,with HTTT having more hit then miss... CAn't wait to hear their new stuff. Should be out this year, no..?
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  • Posts: 957
    The Bends and Pablo Honey are really good imo. Some stuff on Hail to the Thief is plain scary. I dunno about the egos in Radiohead, but it seems they are overdoin things just to be different. They do push boundaries though, and that is whats important.

    Very few bands come close to the greatness of Pink Floyd, and imo Radiohead isnt one of them.

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