It's ignorant to believe that people can't just listen to what they like without being of a certain colour and making (what you say as being 'Interesting') observations of this only highlights the fact. Rock plays a major part in many black peoples lives and when people constantly make 'observations' regarding black rock fans well..... It grinds my gears!!!
In my experience blacks and hispanics are much more straightfoward than their white counterparts and they appreciate honesty more than so-called racial sensitivity.
I wasn't the creator of this thread pal. I was giving my opinion that the person who started this thread was making an innocent observation, not a racist generalization. Furthermore, I certainly never meant to suggest that no blacks like rock music. However, I've made a judgement based on instinct that the recent influx of rock t's into hip-hop culture is a fashion trend, not a musical revolution.
My mistake in pinning the thread on you. I misread your comment on the innocent observation.
Now, for both you and the person that started the thread, I do agree that rock t's are part of fashion now...but with that it has nothing to do with either black people nor AC/DC. The observation was specific about those two things.
There are thousands of young white kids running around in replica concert t's for The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Led Zep, etc and these kids have barely heard any of their music (if at all). At the same time, there are thousands of these kids that ARE in fact big fans of those bands...so how do you draw any conclusions there?
i doubt they like AC/DC or even know what they are wearing, this just isnt black people this is most of the current generation who buy band shirts to look cool and have no idea what is actually on their shirt
these shirts are sold at the mall and in local department stores and its the "in" thing to wear even if your clueless who the band is
ive called out many kids when i see them and they come into my shop i work at and i ask them what their favorite song or album is and they say they have no clue, they just like the shirt...lame!!!
That's probably the case if they're 15. I was assuming the original poster was talking about all different age groups.
And yes I hate how little punks wear a Zeppelin shirt and don't even know who Jimmy Page is.
I've seen lots of fashiony Footballers Wives-types wearing band t-shirts like zeppelin and stones with their skinny jeans and trendy belts - I bet they've never listened to a zeppelin album in their lives. I'm not white yet I have. (heard a zeppelin album, not worn the t-shirt I should add.)
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Its white people that get bent out of shape about this bullshit, mostly sheltered whites who have never even interacted with other races. In my experience blacks and hispanics are much more straightfoward than their white counterparts and they appreciate honesty more than so-called racial sensitivity.
There are two things about racism I’ve learned in my 28 years.
Racism is taught.
Racism is sometimes perpetrated by that race itself.
Yes, I’d be pissed too if I could only trace my ancestry to slaves. Yes, I’d be pissed that it took so long for the law to change to give me equal rights. But there comes a time you have to stop hanging on to the anger and persevere. I think of the Irish. They came to this country and were treated so badly. Rather than stew in it, they pushed forward. They created a parade to show homage to Ireland. Many horrible acts were committed against them. Still they made a place for themselves in this country. Now on March 17th people say they're Irish even when they aren’t. They participate in that parade and the actual Irish embrace that. They don’t criticize or hate people who want to be like them.
It seems like this thread has a lot of reversed racism. I ask a question and suddenly I’m the racist. Where does that lead society as a whole? Can’t we interact with each other without anger? Maybe people are uncomfortable by me asking a simple question because they themselves are racist? My curiosity was formed through what I observe, not an assumption. There are patterns that are in a race. It’s what makes up your culture. Does it make me a horrible person if I ask a question about something I don’t understand outside of my race?
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And yes I hate how little punks wear a Zeppelin shirt and don't even know who Jimmy Page is.
yes i guess it bugs me too. it shouldn't but it does.
if i'm going to wear something i'm damn well going to know what it means first.
but like i said if they are embracing rock i'm ok with it. but i highly doubt it. BECAUSE of the crowd they're surounded by. hiphop...or backstreet etc. I only know what I observe. And if I observe a thing that goes against culture patterns, is it wrong to be curious?
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There are two things about racism I’ve learned in my 28 years.
Racism is taught.
Racism is sometimes perpetrated by that race itself.
Yes, I’d be pissed too if I could only trace my ancestry to slaves. Yes, I’d be pissed that it took so long for the law to change to give me equal rights. But there comes a time you have to stop hanging on to the anger and persevere. I think of the Irish. They came to this country and were treated so badly. Rather than stew in it, they pushed forward. They created a parade to show homage to Ireland. Many horrible acts were committed against them. Still they made a place for themselves in this country. Now on March 17th people say they're Irish even when they aren’t. They participate in that parade and the actual Irish embrace that. They don’t criticize or hate people who want to be like them.
It seems like this thread has a lot of reversed racism. I ask a question and suddenly I’m the racist. Where does that lead society as a whole? Can’t we interact with each other without anger? Maybe people are uncomfortable by me asking a simple question because they themselves are racist? My curiosity was formed through what I observe, not an assumption. There are patterns that are in a race. It’s what makes up your culture. Does it make me a horrible person if I ask a question about something I don’t understand outside of my race?
That chip on your shoulder is holding you back. Can’t you see that? Open your eyes.
wow, i dont think i could have said that better myself...i totally agree with you 100%...i never for one minute thought your post was racist, you were even careful in asking the question when you really didnt have to
there are people on this board and in life in general who just want to start a confrontation about anything and everything
There are two things about racism I’ve learned in my 28 years.
Racism is taught.
Racism is sometimes perpetrated by that race itself.
Yes, I’d be pissed too if I could only trace my ancestry to slaves. Yes, I’d be pissed that it took so long for the law to change to give me equal rights. But there comes a time you have to stop hanging on to the anger and persevere. I think of the Irish. They came to this country and were treated so badly. Rather than stew in it, they pushed forward. They created a parade to show homage to Ireland. Many horrible acts were committed against them. Still they made a place for themselves in this country. Now on March 17th people say they're Irish even when they aren’t. They participate in that parade and the actual Irish embrace that. They don’t criticize or hate people who want to be like them.
Sorry, I'm not sure what your point is? I don't see blacks criticising whites for being into black music, but you're the one who started this thread about "what's up" with blacks wearing a white rock group's t-shirt. So who's criticising who?
Also, are you saying that Irish people have made a space for themselves and fitted themselves into society and black people haven't? I'm sorry, but in my observation, black people are very adept at similarly making a space for themselves and fitting into society. Since whites took over rock music (initially started by black slaves and ex-slaves), black people have created a whole series of new sub-cultures and musical styles, which lots of people embrace too - black and white. So what was your point?
Also, from what you've said you seem to be afraid of asking a black person about wearing an ac/dc t-shirt - What are you afraid of? Do you meet/know any black people in your life? Do you believe they all have a "chip on their shoulder" or will thump you for asking? I know loads of black people and believe me, none of them will ever thump anyone or are aggressive. It's just a stereotype.
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It's ignorant to believe that people can't just listen to what they like without being of a certain colour and making (what you say as being 'Interesting') observations of this only highlights the fact. Rock plays a major part in many black peoples lives and when people constantly make 'observations' regarding black rock fans well..... It grinds my gears!!!
Rent or buy an AC/DC live dvd. Look at the crowd. Estimate the % of black fans in the audience.
Now go back and read the first post in the thread.
It's relevant.
It's not racist.
It's an interesting observation.
wow, i dont think i could have said that better myself...i totally agree with you 100%...i never for one minute thought your post was racist, you were even careful in asking the question when you really didnt have to
there are people on this board and in life in general who just want to start a confrontation about anything and everything
Sorry, I'm not sure what your point is? I don't see blacks criticising whites for being into black music, but you're the one who started this thread about "what's up" with blacks wearing a white rock group's t-shirt. So who's criticising who?
I’m not criticizing. I was asking a question.
Also, are you saying that Irish people have made a space for themselves and fitted themselves into society and black people haven't? I'm sorry, but in my observation, black people are very adept at similarly making a space for themselves and fitting into society. Since whites took over rock music (initially started by black slaves and ex-slaves), black people have created a whole series of new sub-cultures and musical styles, which lots of people embrace too - black and white. So what was your point?
My point was African Americans sometimes have excuses about why their life is the way it is. I’ve heard those excuses from their mouths firsthand. Stop with the excuses and move forward.
Also, from what you've said you seem to be afraid of asking a black person about wearing an ac/dc t-shirt - What are you afraid of? Do you meet/know any black people in your life? Do you believe they all have a "chip on their shoulder" or will thump you for asking? I know loads of black people and believe me, none of them will ever thump anyone or are aggressive. It's just a stereotype.
I’m not afraid. Though I anticipate the same reaction I got here so I rather not go there in real life. Some of my best friends are black. Thou I can’t ask them because they don’t wear AC/DC shirts.
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yes i guess it bugs me too. it shouldn't but it does.
if i'm going to wear something i'm damn well going to know what it means first.
Another thing I really despise is seeing some guy's wife wearing a sports jersey and talking about how much she loves the team when she doesn't know a thing about the sport. This is illogical though, it's a support thing I guess, but still it drives me nuts
but like i said if they are embracing rock i'm ok with it. but i highly doubt it. BECAUSE of the crowd they're surounded by. hiphop...or backstreet etc.
Just because they are surrounded by hip hop culture doesn't mean that's the end all of their musical tastes. I'm white, surrounded by rock, but I also enjoy rap (with a REAL message - NOT shit like bling bling, I'm so fly, etc.). I've seen plenty of blacks that enjoy rock, and plenty that are embarassed by trashy rap. Just be careful of stereotypes
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It does'nt.
But when someone believes in a stereotype and they find out it isnt necessarily true, it causes them to start doubting other things they have previously believed, it's kind of like a little tremor of doubt in the brain.:)
Your completely wrong about getting a negative response if you asked the people wearing the shirts. Its white people that get bent out of shape about this bullshit, mostly sheltered whites who have never even interacted with other races. In my experience blacks and hispanics are much more straightfoward than their white counterparts and they appreciate honesty more than so-called racial sensitivity. The next time you see a black in a concer t, ask him/her about it. I pretty much guarantee they will react more reasonably than some of the self-righteous douches on here.
lmmfao....im native for one....i interact with black folk, whites and natives mostly...its got nothing to do with self righteous ness....it has to do with reality....the reality of it being....determining whats an odd shirt for someone to wear by race and supposed musical preferences is ridiculous.....
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determining whats an odd shirt for someone to wear by race and supposed musical preferences is ridiculous.....
Here's my 2 cents:
I worked in a record store for many years. It was easy to make some obvious observations (and it's not racist to do so).
1) 90% of black kids today don't know who Miles Davis or Jimi Hendrix is.
2) 99% of black kids in my record store bought rap or r&b.
3) If a black kid walked into my store (and it never happened) wanting to buy an AC/DC album......I'd be surprised and interested to know how he got into AC/DC.
1) 90% of black kids today don't know who Miles Davis or Jimi Hendrix is.
I'm sure you surveyed all the black kids about this. Did you make sure to survey the white kids too? The percentage of white kids who don't know MAJOR artists of the past might surprise you.
2) 99% of black kids in my record store bought rap or r&b.
So it's fair to say that a miniscule percentage bought something else...perhaps AC/DC? Oh by the way, based on national record sales, I'm sure a great deal of your white customers - a large percentage in fact - purchased rap or r&b. If a white kid was wearing a Melle Mel t-shirt, would you just disregard him as an ignorant kid wearing something fashionable?
3) If a black kid walked into my store (and it never happened) wanting to buy an AC/DC album......I'd be surprised and interested to know how he got into AC/DC.
I've shopped in a lot of record stores and I've been asked about some of the artists I've purchased. Specifically, when I was younger and buying older artists. Considering AC/DC is a 30+ year old band, it's a safe bet to ask that question to a young kid. But if the black kid was buying a more current rock band (or a rock band with a black member), my ASSUMPTION is that you probably wouldn't ask.
I'm sure you surveyed all the black kids about this. Did you make sure to survey the white kids too? The percentage of white kids who don't know MAJOR artists of the past might surprise you.
No, of course I didn't survey. But I listened to alot of Miles Davis in the store and the black kids would scoff at my shitty music I listen to. I had Miles Davis posters hanging up around the store, and the black kids would ask who it was (and the poster would even have his name on it).
You're right...white kids don't know much about jazz.....but you'd think the black kids would know a little about some pioneering black musicians.
So it's fair to say that a miniscule percentage bought something else...perhaps AC/DC? Oh by the way, based on national record sales, I'm sure a great deal of your white customers - a large percentage in fact - purchased rap or r&b. If a white kid was wearing a Melle Mel t-shirt, would you just disregard him as an ignorant kid wearing something fashionable?
In my honest opinion, most kids (no matter the race) that wear a rap t-shirt actually listen to the artist. It's not solely a fashion statement.
Considering AC/DC is a 30+ year old band, it's a safe bet to ask that question to a young kid. But if the black kid was buying a more current rock band (or a rock band with a black member), my ASSUMPTION is that you probably wouldn't ask.
big deal about people complainin. if you're black, you're definitely in the minority of those listening to classic rock. there's nothing racist about it. that's just the way it is. it is fascinating to see different cultures experience music not usual to a particular culture.
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There are two things about racism I’ve learned in my 28 years.
Racism is taught.
Racism is sometimes perpetrated by that race itself.
Yes, I’d be pissed too if I could only trace my ancestry to slaves. Yes, I’d be pissed that it took so long for the law to change to give me equal rights. But there comes a time you have to stop hanging on to the anger and persevere. I think of the Irish. They came to this country and were treated so badly. Rather than stew in it, they pushed forward. They created a parade to show homage to Ireland. Many horrible acts were committed against them. Still they made a place for themselves in this country. Now on March 17th people say they're Irish even when they aren’t. They participate in that parade and the actual Irish embrace that. They don’t criticize or hate people who want to be like them.
It seems like this thread has a lot of reversed racism. I ask a question and suddenly I’m the racist. Where does that lead society as a whole? Can’t we interact with each other without anger? Maybe people are uncomfortable by me asking a simple question because they themselves are racist? My curiosity was formed through what I observe, not an assumption. There are patterns that are in a race. It’s what makes up your culture. Does it make me a horrible person if I ask a question about something I don’t understand outside of my race?
That chip on your shoulder is holding you back. Can’t you see that? Open your eyes.
Well you opened a can of worms with this one. There's no easy way to go about this kinda conversation, without the P.C. Police getting alarmed..
Then again, it's kind of a dumb thing to ask anyway. And I really hope this concert shirt thing isn't a fashion, I really do. Because I started buying them since like last Spring, and not for fashion. In fact, I haven't even worn like 90% of them. But shirts that I do wear, I don't wear for fashion. I wear my Tenacious D shirt because they kicks ass, I don't give a crap about fashion. And I won't stop wearing them because some punks who have no clue about the bands wear 'em.
And I really hope this concert shirt thing isn't a fashion, I really do.
Sorry, but it truly is. Target and WalMart have cornered the market on rock & roll faux fashion gear.
And even though that's true, so what. You wear what you wear for your own reasons, I wear what I wear for my own reasons, everyone else's be damned. As if a person's choice of clothing needs to be validated.
A cool looking shirt for $9.99 at JC Penny or Target is the explanation. Not alot of black people are into rock and especially not a band 20-25 years old. how many black people have you seen at rock shows?? A very small percentage..maybe less than 1%.
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My mistake in pinning the thread on you. I misread your comment on the innocent observation.
Now, for both you and the person that started the thread, I do agree that rock t's are part of fashion now...but with that it has nothing to do with either black people nor AC/DC. The observation was specific about those two things.
There are thousands of young white kids running around in replica concert t's for The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Led Zep, etc and these kids have barely heard any of their music (if at all). At the same time, there are thousands of these kids that ARE in fact big fans of those bands...so how do you draw any conclusions there?
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And yes I hate how little punks wear a Zeppelin shirt and don't even know who Jimmy Page is.
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Racism is taught.
Racism is sometimes perpetrated by that race itself.
Yes, I’d be pissed too if I could only trace my ancestry to slaves. Yes, I’d be pissed that it took so long for the law to change to give me equal rights. But there comes a time you have to stop hanging on to the anger and persevere. I think of the Irish. They came to this country and were treated so badly. Rather than stew in it, they pushed forward. They created a parade to show homage to Ireland. Many horrible acts were committed against them. Still they made a place for themselves in this country. Now on March 17th people say they're Irish even when they aren’t. They participate in that parade and the actual Irish embrace that. They don’t criticize or hate people who want to be like them.
It seems like this thread has a lot of reversed racism. I ask a question and suddenly I’m the racist. Where does that lead society as a whole? Can’t we interact with each other without anger? Maybe people are uncomfortable by me asking a simple question because they themselves are racist? My curiosity was formed through what I observe, not an assumption. There are patterns that are in a race. It’s what makes up your culture. Does it make me a horrible person if I ask a question about something I don’t understand outside of my race?
That chip on your shoulder is holding you back. Can’t you see that? Open your eyes.
yes i guess it bugs me too. it shouldn't but it does.
if i'm going to wear something i'm damn well going to know what it means first.
but like i said if they are embracing rock i'm ok with it. but i highly doubt it. BECAUSE of the crowd they're surounded by. hiphop...or backstreet etc. I only know what I observe. And if I observe a thing that goes against culture patterns, is it wrong to be curious?
wow, i dont think i could have said that better myself...i totally agree with you 100%...i never for one minute thought your post was racist, you were even careful in asking the question when you really didnt have to
there are people on this board and in life in general who just want to start a confrontation about anything and everything
Sorry, I'm not sure what your point is? I don't see blacks criticising whites for being into black music, but you're the one who started this thread about "what's up" with blacks wearing a white rock group's t-shirt. So who's criticising who?
Also, are you saying that Irish people have made a space for themselves and fitted themselves into society and black people haven't? I'm sorry, but in my observation, black people are very adept at similarly making a space for themselves and fitting into society. Since whites took over rock music (initially started by black slaves and ex-slaves), black people have created a whole series of new sub-cultures and musical styles, which lots of people embrace too - black and white. So what was your point?
Also, from what you've said you seem to be afraid of asking a black person about wearing an ac/dc t-shirt - What are you afraid of? Do you meet/know any black people in your life? Do you believe they all have a "chip on their shoulder" or will thump you for asking? I know loads of black people and believe me, none of them will ever thump anyone or are aggressive. It's just a stereotype.
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Rent or buy an AC/DC live dvd. Look at the crowd. Estimate the % of black fans in the audience.
Now go back and read the first post in the thread.
It's relevant.
It's not racist.
It's an interesting observation.
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thank you and i agree.
I’m not criticizing. I was asking a question.
My point was African Americans sometimes have excuses about why their life is the way it is. I’ve heard those excuses from their mouths firsthand. Stop with the excuses and move forward.
I’m not afraid. Though I anticipate the same reaction I got here so I rather not go there in real life. Some of my best friends are black. Thou I can’t ask them because they don’t wear AC/DC shirts.
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It does'nt.
But when someone believes in a stereotype and they find out it isnt necessarily true, it causes them to start doubting other things they have previously believed, it's kind of like a little tremor of doubt in the brain.:)
lmmfao....im native for one....i interact with black folk, whites and natives mostly...its got nothing to do with self righteous ness....it has to do with reality....the reality of it being....determining whats an odd shirt for someone to wear by race and supposed musical preferences is ridiculous.....
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Here's my 2 cents:
I worked in a record store for many years. It was easy to make some obvious observations (and it's not racist to do so).
1) 90% of black kids today don't know who Miles Davis or Jimi Hendrix is.
2) 99% of black kids in my record store bought rap or r&b.
3) If a black kid walked into my store (and it never happened) wanting to buy an AC/DC album......I'd be surprised and interested to know how he got into AC/DC.
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So it's fair to say that a miniscule percentage bought something else...perhaps AC/DC? Oh by the way, based on national record sales, I'm sure a great deal of your white customers - a large percentage in fact - purchased rap or r&b. If a white kid was wearing a Melle Mel t-shirt, would you just disregard him as an ignorant kid wearing something fashionable?
I've shopped in a lot of record stores and I've been asked about some of the artists I've purchased. Specifically, when I was younger and buying older artists. Considering AC/DC is a 30+ year old band, it's a safe bet to ask that question to a young kid. But if the black kid was buying a more current rock band (or a rock band with a black member), my ASSUMPTION is that you probably wouldn't ask.
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No, of course I didn't survey. But I listened to alot of Miles Davis in the store and the black kids would scoff at my shitty music I listen to. I had Miles Davis posters hanging up around the store, and the black kids would ask who it was (and the poster would even have his name on it).
You're right...white kids don't know much about jazz.....but you'd think the black kids would know a little about some pioneering black musicians.
In my honest opinion, most kids (no matter the race) that wear a rap t-shirt actually listen to the artist. It's not solely a fashion statement.
That assumption is correct.
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Well you opened a can of worms with this one. There's no easy way to go about this kinda conversation, without the P.C. Police getting alarmed..
Then again, it's kind of a dumb thing to ask anyway. And I really hope this concert shirt thing isn't a fashion, I really do. Because I started buying them since like last Spring, and not for fashion. In fact, I haven't even worn like 90% of them. But shirts that I do wear, I don't wear for fashion. I wear my Tenacious D shirt because they kicks ass, I don't give a crap about fashion. And I won't stop wearing them because some punks who have no clue about the bands wear 'em.
And even though that's true, so what. You wear what you wear for your own reasons, I wear what I wear for my own reasons, everyone else's be damned. As if a person's choice of clothing needs to be validated.
Not by me, it doesn't.
...signed...the token black Pearl Jam fan.
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...signed...the token black Pearl Jam fan.
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What kind of statement does my "Kenny Loggins Invades Your Noggin: Invasion 2003" t-shirt make?
(Shawn Smith's official website, but not Thee Shawn Smith)
I love Kenny Loggins. He rocks.
*sings *Return To Pooh Corner" and "Forever"*
...signed...the token black Pearl Jam fan.
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