AC/DC shirts and African Americans

TheDecline13

Jeremy1012 wrote:

Calm down. No one here is a nazi, they just have some slightly ignorant views.

the views of nazi's

Igottago

I think a lot of people (white, black, brown, asian, whatever) wear classic rock shirts as a fashion accessory these days.

But speaking in racial terms, I'm a non-white person who grew up listening to Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, I listen to a huge variety of alternative rock these days and I've played in bands, play the guitar, etc. You kind of get the wierd looks sometimes at shows, which I think is sad, because growing up in Canada I'm exposed to all the same cultural influences that anyone else would be. I've experienced that from white people and also people of my own race, most of whom seem to listen to mainstream rap/r&B for some odd reason. I'm all in favour of people fucking with racial stereotypes and hope that rock sees some more colour (and it will) as time goes on, because they whiney white guy thing is kind of getting played out. Its time for the whiney black, brown, asian, south american guy or whatever to get some time on the stage. The white Indie artist is largely the most boring thing in music these days, because they all have the same perspective on everything, there is nothing new being said there. Same with the typical black bling bling rapper, nothing new. What we need is an illegal alien mexican Bright Eyes, or something like that. I wanna hear stories about that life.

LONGRD

blondieblue227 wrote:

I’ve seen a lot…I mean a lot of black people wearing AC/DC shirts. What’s up with that?
I never ask them face to face but I should huh?

ok, they could just be fans but i doubt it because i've seen so many. even a 12 year old little girl.

WTF? so since I'm not white, I'm not allowed to listen to Pearl Jam either?

LONGRD

Igottago wrote:

I think a lot of people (white, black, brown, asian, whatever) wear classic rock shirts as a fashion accessory these days.

But speaking in racial terms, I'm a non-white person who grew up listening to Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, I listen to a huge variety of alternative rock these days and I've played in bands, play the guitar, etc. You kind of get the wierd looks sometimes at shows, which I think is sad, because growing up in Canada I'm exposed to all the same cultural influences that anyone else would be. I've experienced that from white people and also people of my own race, most of whom seem to listen to mainstream rap/r&B for some odd reason. I'm all in favour of people fucking with racial stereotypes and hope that rock sees some more colour (and it will) as time goes on, because they whiney white guy thing is kind of getting played out. Its time for the whiney black, brown, asian, south american guy or whatever to get some time on the stage. The white Indie artist is largely the most boring thing in music these days, because they all have the same perspective on everything, there is nothing new being said there. Same with the typical black bling bling rapper, nothing new. What we need is an illegal alien mexican Bright Eyes, or something like that. I wanna hear stories about that life.

I think a lot of it has to do with marketing. If we're trying to cater to a specific audience then we have a very small capacity and will not get much attention.

Look at Christian Rock bands, I see their commercials all the time on TV but never heard of their songs before. I wouldn't know the songs because I'm not in their demographic.

It's the same way with ethnic-them movies, they will not go to the mall theaters but instead find their way to art-houses and smaller theaters.

I'm amazed of how popular M.I.A. is around the world, not just South Asians. I'm not fan of hers yet but it's great to see her bring some fresh to the game.

LONGRD

Indian Summer wrote:

No its not. Don't kid yourself.

Maybe not with your circle of friends but for dharma and myself, it's a common thing to see minorities listen to rock music.

LONGRD

Jeremy1012 wrote:

Calm down. No one here is a nazi, they just have some slightly ignorant views.

To be honest, this thread is probably the most degrading thing I've ever seen for a longtime. I've walked into racial slurs and stereotypes before but the context of them are mostly in comedic fashion.

For the OP have an observation like this, it's kinda like saying "oh, you're not white why are you listening to this kind of music for?" A terrible observation in my opinion, and somewhat offended as if my cultural background doesn't fit the requirement to listen to PJ.

What attracted me to Pearl Jam was mainly because of Eddie Vedder's lyrics. He's 18-years my senior, born in a different country and raised in a different city/state, and is white. But boy, Eddie's personal family problems in his youth are parallel to mine. Just like Ed, I was more attached to my mother than my deadbeat father- that's just one of the examples but fuck there's even more songs that I relate to the man. Even Flow- about homelessness; even I never been homeless myself but have lived and moved to many different cities/states in between 5-17-years-old: 2 countries, 4 states, 7 different cities. I've never felt at home during those stages of my life. Better Man- my mother can relate to that song; for some reason she fell in love with assholes; first my dad then my stepdad and for major of her parenthood she was a single mom. Off He Goes- that song is basically about me as well; I always manage to destruct my friendship with some of the nicest friends one can have, so just like Eddie I can be such a shitty friend sometimes.

OK, I think I've gave enough example of how a minority can love and feel passionate about a rock band but I can probably go on and on...Anyway, peace and Keep on rockin' in the free world.

TheDecline13

I never realized so many pj fans were raciest. I knew a lot of them are drunks and can't throw away garbage *any camden show parking lot can show you this* but to throw raciest in the mix is crazy.

Them-Bones

LongRd. wrote:

To be honest, this thread is probably the most degrading thing I've ever seen for a longtime.

Is it really? If this is the most degrading thing you've seen in a while you are seriously lucky.

gabers

I want to take a sec to defend the OP. I really don't think he meant anything by it. If I kept running into brothas keeping it real with AC DC shirts I would find it odd and oddly refreshing too. No big deal. The guy was making an observation, jeesh.

g under p

gabers wrote:

I want to take a sec to defend the OP. I really don't think he meant anything by it. If I kept running into brothas keeping it real with AC DC shirts I would find it odd and oddly refreshing too. No big deal. The guy was making an observation, jeesh.

After seeing this thread come up I went through and read each and every post before I quoted and posted what I had to say. I was quite surprised what some had to say and there observations and feelings about a minority wearing a hard rock band's shirt.

I waited on AC/DC once, they didn't have a problem with that and when they found out I was a fan (from my tour shirt under my uniform) and went to THEIR fucking show. Man were so pumped and excited that a person color knew and liked their music. They took care of me very well and even gave THEIR world tour official All Access Pass.

I think though this went well because it was 3-4am in the morning and everybody else in our Denny's had no clue who these guys were. Just that they had a foreign British accent. I had to correct them that they're actually from *Down Under* Australia.

Peace

NewDamage

TheDecline13 wrote:

I never realized so many pj fans were raciest. I knew a lot of them are drunks and can't throw away garbage *any camden show parking lot can show you this* but to throw raciest in the mix is crazy.

How in the blue hell is it racism? Would someone please explain this? Saying "hey I've noticed this and its out of the ordinary" does not in any way equate racism. No one has said minorities do not have the right to wear rock t-shirts or listen to rock music. What has been said or implied, is that you do not see it often. And that is true.

Like I already said a few times, one of my best friends, a black man, is confused about this himself. I guess by the logic displayed here, that makes him racist towards his own race???

I'm all for anyone of any race listening to whatever they wish. But I'm not so afraid to acknowledge when something is uncommon so as not to upset anyone...so the next time I see a black person wearing a hard rock or metal band shirt, I will still think it strange, yet cool. Doesn't mean he/she has no right to. Doesn't make me racist, just means I notice something you don't see everyday, and have no problem acknowledging that as some do

g under p

NewDamage wrote:

How in the blue hell is it racism? Would someone please explain this? Saying "hey I've noticed this and its out of the ordinary" does not in any way equate racism. No one has said minorities do not have the right to wear rock t-shirts or listen to rock music. What has been said or implied, is that you do not see it often. And that is true.

Like I already said a few times, one of my best friends, a black man, is confused about this himself. I guess by the logic displayed here, that makes him racist towards his own race???

I'm all for anyone of any race listening to whatever they wish. But I'm not so afraid to acknowledge when something is uncommon so as not to upset anyone...so the next time I see a black person wearing a hard rock or metal band shirt, I will still think it strange, yet cool. Doesn't mean he/she has no right to. Doesn't make me racist, just means I notice something you don't see everyday, and have no problem acknowledging that as some do

I can agree with you here. Many times I see white kids with rappers shirts and how they wear their clothes. I think it's funny cause I don't know who most of those rappers are, in fact in South Florida where I live for half a year the white kids down there mostly those with money all listen to rap and especially gangster rap.

What was racist was the stereotyping others had to say within this thread, way too many assumptions were made about minorities and what they should be listening to.

Peace

LONGRD

Them-Bones wrote:

Is it really? If this is the most degrading thing you've seen in a while you are seriously lucky.

Lucky? as in what terms? humiliating might be the right word then.

MonsterOfTheMidway

Wow...this is one of the worst threads I have ever seen on this board. Who cares what people wear anyway?


And I know MANY African Americans that listen to rock music and MANY caucasians who listen to rap.


And who are you people to judge what good music is? Everyone has their own opinion.


Man, oh, man, this thread is somethig else.

blondieblue227

g under p wrote:

After seeing this thread come up I went through and read each and every post before I quoted and posted what I had to say.

Thank you for doing that.

To all those who have reamed me after reading my first post Fuck You.
I damn well know people are free to listen to anything they want.

My guy Brian wears a Budweiser hat. It has a letter B with a crown on top of it.
To him it stands for King Brian.
It bugs the hell out of me.
He doesn’t even like beer!

Why wear something that only you are in on?
i've seen so many African Americans wearing AC/DC shirts, i thought it meant something different to them.
That’s why I started this thread. I was curious.

I just threw in the word African American and everybody went berserk.

Jeremy1012

TheDecline13 wrote:

the views of nazi's

Uh huh? I must have missed the sources that describe Hitler's views on blacks wearing AC/DC t-shirts :rolleyes:

The thread is dumb, no question, but I don't think it was born of any kind of racist agenda, just ignorance.

Yellow Ledbelly

LongRd. wrote:

To be honest, this thread is probably the most degrading thing I've ever seen for a longtime. I've walked into racial slurs and stereotypes before but the context of them are mostly in comedic fashion.

For the OP have an observation like this, it's kinda like saying "oh, you're not white why are you listening to this kind of music for?" A terrible observation in my opinion, and somewhat offended as if my cultural background doesn't fit the requirement to listen to PJ.
D

I've been to BB King concerts and have been asked each and every time by black folks just what in the hell I was doing there.....I didn't take it personally

g under p

Yellow Ledbelly wrote:

I've been to BB King concerts and have been asked each and every time by black folks just what in the hell I was doing there.....I didn't take it personally

I got that once at a Iron Maiden concert 87' or 88' by myself and I rattled of the entire lyrics to *Trooper* and they were he's cool. No big deal just their ignorance besides I like putting people in their place when they get like that.

Peace

dharma69

NewDamage wrote:

How in the blue hell is it racism? Would someone please explain this? Saying "hey I've noticed this and its out of the ordinary" does not in any way equate racism.

Doesn't make me racist, just means I notice something you don't see everyday, and have no problem acknowledging that as some do

Nope. It makes you observant. I'm just as observant. It's good to be observant.

If you open your mouth and ask a question then it makes you curious. It's cool to be curious.

Thread over.

Yellow Ledbelly

Yellow Ledbelly wrote:

I've been to BB King concerts and have been asked each and every time by black folks just what in the hell I was doing there.....I didn't take it personally

And you know, the guy who really stuck with me really questioned me about why I was there and all that crap. He said, "What do you know about BB King? You don't know nothing about the blues." Shit like that on and on. It mattered none to me because his opinion about what I as young white dude was supposed to listen to or priviliged to listen to didn't mean a damn thing to me...and still doesn't.

I guess Nazis don't have to white after all.....wow, that doesn't make sense does it?