why is everyone so nuts about these reunions?

mrwalkerb
mrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
edited January 2007 in Other Music
Like do you guys who are so mental about all these bands "getting back together" honestly believe that they will be nearly as good or even remotely as relevant as they once were? Anyways here are the four that I keep seeing on the board mentioned:


1-Smashing Pumpkins-ok so everyone forgot how the last album wasn't that great and that nobody bought it, and it seems everybody forgot Zwan and Billy's solo record (not as hard granted), because it seems if they record anything as the smashing pumpkins you guys think it will rule. Oasis used to be a great band but their last two records were blase at best, sometimes people lose it, I don't think playing with some random people-however talented they are- is going to make Billy Corgan write as good as he did in 1995.

2-Alice in Chains-this one is less grievous because they have made clear it is a "tribute" thing, but the instant they put out a record they become like the doors, and I mean the doors now a touring parody.

3-Soundgarden-please no, Chris has lost his voice and is comfortable being mediocre in Audioslave, nothing good will come of this other than spectacle.

4-Rage- This is probably the least concerning of all the 90s bands talking about getting back together because it seems like a one off thing for coachella which would be cool.
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  • BetterManningNYG
    BetterManningNYG Posts: 777
    ain't nothin' else going on, that's why...

    in my opinion, the four bands you mentioned were FAR superior to any bands that have formed since. and a lot of us never got a chance to see them live when they were still together and touring.

    i saw alice in chains four times in '06 and it was awesome...
  • melodyman22
    melodyman22 Posts: 326
    If you think Cornell is mediocre now your very wrong. Hes still an amazing singer and songwriter. I also feel if Soundgarden does get back together he could pull of the old songs just fine.
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    Like do you guys who are so mental about all these bands "getting back together" honestly believe that they will be nearly as good or even remotely as relevant as they once were? Anyways here are the four that I keep seeing on the board mentioned:


    1-Smashing Pumpkins-ok so everyone forgot how the last album wasn't that great and that nobody bought it, and it seems everybody forgot Zwan and Billy's solo record (not as hard granted), because it seems if they record anything as the smashing pumpkins you guys think it will rule. Oasis used to be a great band but their last two records were blase at best, sometimes people lose it, I don't think playing with some random people-however talented they are- is going to make Billy Corgan write as good as he did in 1995.

    2-Alice in Chains-this one is less grievous because they have made clear it is a "tribute" thing, but the instant they put out a record they become like the doors, and I mean the doors now a touring parody.

    3-Soundgarden-please no, Chris has lost his voice and is comfortable being mediocre in Audioslave, nothing good will come of this other than spectacle.

    4-Rage- This is probably the least concerning of all the 90s bands talking about getting back together because it seems like a one off thing for coachella which would be cool.

    How is a reunion any different to a band like Pearl Jam still being around? By your reasoning PJ can't be as good now as they were in the past. Billy Corgan wants his band back, and has quite clearly said it will be back to the more familiar and rocking SP sound - his biggest downfall was that he liked to experiment, which had varying degrees of success.
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    melodyman22 wrote:
    If you think Cornell is mediocre now your very wrong. Hes still an amazing singer and songwriter. I also feel if Soundgarden does get back together he could pull of the old songs just fine.

    Could I interest you in a bridge I'm selling? :p

    As for the reunion craze...it's simple. 90% of the bands out there today blow...they fucking blow. Even a Days of the New reunion would sound good these days compared to the shit out there now...and I hated Days of the New.

    Hell...a Menudo reunion would be better than half of the shit that's on MTv today.
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  • BetterManningNYG
    BetterManningNYG Posts: 777
    enharmonic wrote:
    Even a Days of the New reunion would sound good these days compared to the shit out there now...and I hated Days of the New.

    wow.

    i never thought of it like that before.

    but it's true. 100% true.

    and kinda depressing.

    just to clarify, are we talking about a full band reunion or just the lead singer after he kicked everyone else out? :rolleyes:
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    Like do you guys who are so mental about all these bands "getting back together" honestly believe that they will be nearly as good or even remotely as relevant as they once were? Anyways here are the four that I keep seeing on the board mentioned:


    1-Smashing Pumpkins-ok so everyone forgot how the last album wasn't that great and that nobody bought it, and it seems everybody forgot Zwan and Billy's solo record (not as hard granted), because it seems if they record anything as the smashing pumpkins you guys think it will rule. Oasis used to be a great band but their last two records were blase at best, sometimes people lose it, I don't think playing with some random people-however talented they are- is going to make Billy Corgan write as good as he did in 1995.

    2-Alice in Chains-this one is less grievous because they have made clear it is a "tribute" thing, but the instant they put out a record they become like the doors, and I mean the doors now a touring parody.

    3-Soundgarden-please no, Chris has lost his voice and is comfortable being mediocre in Audioslave, nothing good will come of this other than spectacle.

    4-Rage- This is probably the least concerning of all the 90s bands talking about getting back together because it seems like a one off thing for coachella which would be cool.
    dude i think its fucking awsome all these bands are getting back together. me being a young person, i never got the chance to the orginall AIC or SP. so its gonna be cool when sp tours again and if and when AIC tour again. the SG reunion will never happen, if it does it be probably a one off thing at lolla.
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  • btb002
    btb002 Posts: 183
    Did anybody mention Pavement, nope. On the behalf of every Rolling Stone article writer, I demand Pavement be added to your list!
    You are just a negative mindless pud.
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    BetterManningNYG wrote:
    wow.

    i never thought of it like that before.

    but it's true. 100% true.

    and kinda depressing.

    just to clarify, are we talking about a full band reunion or just the lead singer after he kicked everyone else out? :rolleyes:

    Sure, why not...ass is ass. They were ass, but today they would be king of the hill. :(
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    1-Smashing Pumpkins-ok so everyone forgot how the last album wasn't that great and that nobody bought it, and it seems everybody forgot Zwan and Billy's solo record (not as hard granted), because it seems if they record anything as the smashing pumpkins you guys think it will rule. Oasis used to be a great band but their last two records were blase at best, sometimes people lose it, I don't think playing with some random people-however talented they are- is going to make Billy Corgan write as good as he did in 1995.

    Nobody bought No Code compared to Ten-Vitalogy. People didn't give it a chance because it was different. I guess PJ is an exception right? The Smashing Pumpkins are just like PJ and challenge you to go where they dare to, all of their work is brilliant.

    Zwan doesn't count because they didn't have great chemistry like SP.
    Never heard Billy's solo work, so I can't comment.

    So is the same true, that anything recorded by PJ will rule? (Bugs, Stupid Mop, Sweet Lew, etc.)

    I don't think Billy lost it, but his ego clouds him.
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    I bought No Code :). Still one of my favorite PJ albums.
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  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    1. Smashing Pumpkins. "Why the fuck are these guys famous?"


    2. Alice in Chains. "Without Staley what's the point?"


    3. Soundgarden. "If you didn't see them around 95' or so, you'll just be dissapointed."


    4. Rage. "Quite possibly the worst band ever, De la Rocha should've stuck with hardcore."

    Fuck reunions for shitty bands.
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  • pearljam0000
    pearljam0000 Posts: 450
    sapperskunk wrote:


    4. Rage. "Quite possibly the worst band ever, De la Rocha should've stuck with hardcore."

    Fuck reunions for shitty bands.

    Wow i cannot believe you think Rage is the worst band ever. That saddens me.
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    pearljam0000 wrote:
    Wow i cannot believe you think Rage is the worst band ever. That saddens me.


    Sorry man, I'm in a bad mood. I'll retract my statement on worst band ever and dub them the most "over-exaggerated" band ever. Along with Pink Floyd and Hendrix.
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  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Are D'arcy and James even participating in the Smashing Pumpkins reunion?

    PBM
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    Smashing Pumpkins - The jury's out...saw 'em live three times pre-breakup and they were ok, but didn't really knock me out. Love them on record and could hinge on who's playing bass & guitar.

    Alice In Chains - Caught them last year and man is it depressing. This William DuVall guy is not a great fit...ran around in his designer clothes smiling and preening while singing some intensely personal and bleak songs. God I hope they don't put out a record.

    Soundgarden - A one-off or two would be fine, but they're not getting Cameron back!

    RATM - Never got to see them, so I would certainly be up to catch them if they decide to tour while Cornell is doing his solo thing. All original members and could hopefully settle into a groove after a couple shows.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    enharmonic wrote:
    Could I interest you in a bridge I'm selling? :p

    As for the reunion craze...it's simple. 90% of the bands out there today blow...they fucking blow. Even a Days of the New reunion would sound good these days compared to the shit out there now...and I hated Days of the New.

    Hell...a Menudo reunion would be better than half of the shit that's on MTv today.

    I know it's cliche, but if you're looking for new bands I would probably not rely on MTV. Plennnnnnnty of great new bands around. If you care to express your tastes, I'm always willing to recommend....
  • moho
    moho Posts: 541
    sapperskunk wrote:
    Sorry man, I'm in a bad mood. I'll retract my statement on worst band ever and dub them the most "over-exaggerated" band ever. Along with Pink Floyd and Hendrix.


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  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    the only reunion im looking forward to is the police.
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  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    pjl44 wrote:
    I know it's cliche, but if you're looking for new bands I would probably not rely on MTV. Plennnnnnnty of great new bands around. If you care to express your tastes, I'm always willing to recommend....

    Appreciate it, but I don't even have cable :D. I was referring to the epidemic that has been foisted upon the youth and passed off as music.
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  • mrwalkerb
    mrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    Trying to save time and comment on a few replies that piled up since I forgot I started this thread:

    metsfan531941 wrote:
    dude i think its fucking awsome all these bands are getting back together. me being a young person, i never got the chance to the orginall AIC or SP. so its gonna be cool when sp tours again and if and when AIC tour again. the SG reunion will never happen, if it does it be probably a one off thing at lolla.

    Seriously man I hear where you're coming from and I used to feel the same way. I wanted so bad to see the Stones on thier Bridges to Babylon tour, for a multitude of reasons I missed out, I was 15. Since then I have had the chance to go see them but passed because the truth is as good as a live show as I'm sure they put on now-and I belive it would be a fucking blast- it's just not the same. I came to this conclusion watching the Bridges to Babylon DVD, sometimes it's best to see them when they are at thier peak and not after. I saw Dylan a few years ago and while it was a great show I'm not sure I would go see him again.
    BetterManningNYG wrote:
    ain't nothin' else going on, that's why...

    in my opinion, the four bands you mentioned were FAR superior to any bands that have formed since. and a lot of us never got a chance to see them live when they were still together and touring.

    i saw alice in chains four times in '06 and it was awesome...

    now I know this is an exaggeration that these bands are "FAR superior to any bands that have formed since". The bands I named are fantastic and I brought this up because I am passionate about each of them but for SP I would way rather they leave sleeping dogs lie and let us remember how things were. Love Soundgarden and Rage but they did what they did, no sense watering it down, AIC isn't AIC without Layne, like if Chris Cornell had of died in 96 and then a decade later Soundgarden came out with some dude nobody would mind?

    As far as the fact that these bands are better than anything since you sound like one of those guys with a denim jacket rocking out to Warrent because that was the end of good music. As proof you're wrong here are three bands that are just as good if not better than these 4 in question
    1-New Pornographers
    2-Hold Steady
    3-Drive-by truckers
    facepollution wrote:
    How is a reunion any different to a band like Pearl Jam still being around? By your reasoning PJ can't be as good now as they were in the past.


    Well it differs greatly in that Pearl Jam didn't hang it up because people stopped buying their records and then a couple of failed "comebacks" decided to get back together. If the Smashing Pumpkins didn't cower under the recption of Adore and put out a crappy record they thought people wanted to hear in Machina but rather kept experimenting than this conversation would be very different.
    danny72688 wrote:
    Nobody bought No Code compared to Ten-Vitalogy. People didn't give it a chance because it was different. I guess PJ is an exception right? The Smashing Pumpkins are just like PJ and challenge you to go where they dare to, all of their work is brilliant.

    Zwan doesn't count because they didn't have great chemistry like SP.
    Never heard Billy's solo work, so I can't comment.

    So is the same true, that anything recorded by PJ will rule? (Bugs, Stupid Mop, Sweet Lew, etc.)

    .

    Granted relative to their first three records nobody has really bought anything post vitalogy save us. And for teh most part people didn't give it a chance, you are right but the difference that is more important than whether you or I think they got better or worse once they stopped selling records is the Smashing Pumpkins called it quits and fucked off. They did not stick around regardless of sales and put out music that equaled anything they had recorded earlier. Personally I think Adore was and is a fantastic record, probably their best. I don't get where you are picking up that I think everything Pearl Jam does is good and everything that the pumpkins does is bad so I can't really get into the last line without a little clarification of what you mean or if you just misunderstood my original post.
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